Post by: T-GOD on June 12, 2003, 09:40:22 PM
Do you bowl for fun..? Or, do you bowl just to win..? Meaning, you'll do anything to win. Do you only have fun when you win..? Or, can you have fun without winning..?
Personally, I bowl to entertain myself, as well as others. Yes, I also want to win, but if I don't, I can still have fun.
Today, I don't see many bowlers having fun unless they win, which is why they'll do anything to win.
So, getting back to high rev vs low rev bowlers, I feel the high rev players have more fun, because they are entertaining people.
Low rev players are only out to win. Because, it can't be entertaining for them to watch their ball hit the pocket like fluff-r-nutter.
Bowling is supposed to be fun. And you better have fun without winning. Because if you only have fun when you win, you won't be having fun very often..!!
So, all you low rev players, start working on your game to get more rev's and have MORE FUN..!! =:^D
Post by: Thomas889 on June 13, 2003, 12:51:08 PM
Post by: Jeffrevs on June 13, 2003, 01:03:31 PM
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So, getting back to high rev vs low rev bowlers, I feel the high rev players have more fun, because they are entertaining people.
Low rev players are only out to win. Because, it can't be entertaining for them to watch their ball hit the pocket like fluff-r-nutter.
Huh ?? You really mean this....is this an honest comparison ? I disagree...if you bowl, regardless of who you are, you enjoy it, it's fun.......
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Post by: 9andaWiggle on June 13, 2003, 01:12:23 PM
Seriously, I like to win, but cannot quite put my finger on exactly what makes bowling so alluring to me. Seems like a silly game when you really think about it, but I guess the enjoyment comes from trying to improve your game or trying to beat you old high scores/series.
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Why, WHY won't the last one just fall?? It's WIGGLING for cryin' out loud!!
Post by: Rockbowler on June 13, 2003, 01:13:24 PM
Post by: Steven on June 13, 2003, 02:40:52 PM
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Low rev players are only out to win. Because, it can't be entertaining for them to watch their ball hit the pocket like fluff-r-nutter.
I'm absolutely dumbfounded at the "absoluteness" of these statements. It strikes me along the lines of:
'Blonds are dumb'
'Red heads have fire for tempers'
'Carrots will turn your skin orange'
These statements are absolute nonsense. And so is T-GOD's assessment of what lower rev players are all about. "Fun" is all about proper execution and watching all the pins go down. It doesn't matter the trajectory the ball takes to get there. While I appreciate T-GOD's blind focus on revs for simple minded entertainment, it's a shame he will never appreciate the beauty (and fun) of consistent and successful execution.
To each his own.
Post by: T-GOD on June 13, 2003, 02:59:06 PM
Post by: T-GOD on June 13, 2003, 03:03:29 PM
Don't be satisfied with your weak release, if you have one. Everyone can work at it to increase their power. Let's not get complacent. Always strive to get better.
Remember, more revs = more strikes when hitting the pocket. =:^D
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Post by: T-GOD on June 13, 2003, 06:35:17 PM
There are bowlers out there that rev it up, are in time with perfect balance, who deliver the ball with beauty and grace. This is what I look for. Effortless power..!! Because that's how you get power, being in time at the line and staying balanced, all in a rythm that flows with ease.
And, at the same time, let's keep our lanes manicured to perfection and/or to the best of our ability. Why does the condition burn up/break down. Can't we stop it, or at least prolong it much further..? Yes we can, if we try and care about it.
Bowlers should demand the ultimate condition/playing field. Other professional sports have tip top playing surfaces for their games, why can't we..? Why do we have to hear all the excuses..? The machine broke down, they're the same as last week, we used a different oil, we stripped today..blah..blah..blah.
Do we need different conditions, so more/different bowlers will have a chance to win..? Hell, we don't want the same bowlers winning all the time, do we..? That wouldn't be fair..!! =:^D
Post by: channel surfer on June 13, 2003, 06:56:29 PM
This post should be deleted, may god have mercy on your soul, and all of us are now more dumber for having read this. And im also getting a illusion of Hitler from t-god. AN illusion is a literature term, but im not getting into literature. But the fact on how it seems that t-god is trying to convert everyone to a high rev game, and it sounds like he dosnt like anyone but high rev bowlers, therefore i see an illusion of Hitler.--------------------
My Bowling Clinic Site: http://channelsurfers.vze.com
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Post by: Phillip Marlowe on June 13, 2003, 06:59:02 PM
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"It's just a carry contest."
Post by: RandyO on June 13, 2003, 08:00:05 PM
Post by: 10 In The Pit on June 14, 2003, 05:23:15 AM
I don't get too wrapped up in the wins and losses, especially since I can't control the actions of the other members on my teams. I just bowl to do the best that I can, and let the chips fall where they may.
Also, I'm thinking 300 on every game that I start out on. For me, the ultimate adrenaline rush is shooting a 300 game, which I've only pulled off twice now. I fell short on 3 other attempts, with a pair of 299's and a 298. On the 299's, I was pretty satisfied with the 12th shot that I made, but I didn't get the carry. On the 298, I was disgusted with myself because I stumbled on the approach (a physical problem) and it caused me to botch the shot, and I just barely got an 8 count out of the deal. Out of 5 trips to the well, I was satisfied with 4 of them, and disgusted with the botched effort on the 298.
I can't seem to put 3 good games together very often, so I've only been even close to 800 on a couple of occasions.....at least I didn't buckle under the pressure, but I got tapped a couple of times that cost me big. On my last attempt, a single 4-pin in the 9th frame of the 3rd game cost me the 800. Maybe one of these days I'll get there.
But yes, I bowl for my sanity and for the ultimate adrenaline rush of the 300 game.
Post by: T-GOD on June 14, 2003, 01:59:59 PM
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You have some good information hidden inside your responses
This is the first time I've heard that. Normally, you knock everything I say. So, then why don't you focus on my good points in my post's, instead of knocking things you don't agree with..?
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All I've read from you is that you require a perfect surface (would be nice but not a reality unfortunately) and a special heavily oil condition to achieve success. This is narrow minded and to this player very comical.
So, striving to have a better release/stronger game and to have perfect lane conditions is narrow minded, and comical..? Well, I'm sorry, I don't like to settle for second best. =:^D
Post by: Strike300 on June 15, 2003, 03:28:33 AM
Post by: 10 In The Pit on June 15, 2003, 03:35:04 AM
Post by: joegunn on June 15, 2003, 09:37:28 AM
The sad part is I shot 290 and 814 in 1983 with a Wayne Webb Gyro I in an unsanctioned tournament and a 787 in 1991 with a Black U-Dot...and to date with the monster balls, my high series is 747. You used to be able to find a line, execute the shot and move maybe a board or two over the course of the night. Now it's strike, strike, strike, Greek Church move left...strike, strike, Greek Church move left. This is obviously exagerated, but if I start standing 30, by the end of the 2nd game I'm usually around 35 and still running the ball through the nose. And I by no means would ever be mistaken for a cranker.
Sorry to go off on a tangent, and I'm not even sure of the original topic, but today, the game is dominated by "dump and runners" throwing sponges or guys who tear the lifts out of the ball and have 8 boards to play with because they spray pins all over the deck.
OK, I'm done. Thanks for reading and a Happy Father's Day to all.
Joe
Post by: seadrive on June 15, 2003, 10:59:40 AM
When I was a kid, it was all about the competition. I still like to compete, but nowadays it's more about that feeling of making a really good shot, with a fully-extended arm and that Bill Taylor "heavy fingers" feeling at the bottom of the swing as you're about to roll the ball off your hand and into the lane.
If you don't know what I mean, watch Kelly Kulick's delivery. Poetry in motion, my friends. Now if only I had her talent...
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Cogito ergo bowl
Post by: T-GOD on June 15, 2003, 11:01:43 AM
Styles, balls, and lane conditions never stay the same long enough for bowlers to dominate and become stars. Something is wrong when there's a different group of bowlers at the top every 2-3 years.
Someone has to make a stand and decide where the game is headed. So, that's what Ive done. Bowling needs a leader. Who do we have now..? Kegel..?..!! One minute sport condition, the next minute $1,000,000 for breaking 4000. Give me a break. That's the problem..!! No direction/leadership.
Joegunn, I'm with you. =:^D
Post by: SrKegler on June 15, 2003, 05:09:02 PM
Now, after almost 50 years at the game, I bowl simply because you never know when the magic will hit and you lite up the lanes.
Bowlers are also a different breed of people. I spent 22 years in the military and found no matter where I was stationed, all it took to make new friends was to grab my ball, hit the local center and ask people if I could practice with them. Try doing that at a softball or football game.
Bowling, win/lose/draw, you can still enjoy yourself.
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~~~SrK - Have balls, will travel