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FBM357

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Question concerning 10 pin leave.....
« on: June 29, 2008, 12:36:41 PM »
I've often read posts that read "ball is continuous and rarely leaves a 10 pin...."

Is a ball 'really' responsible for 10 pin leaves?  Or is it moreso due to entry angle, speed, revs/or lack of, and drill? (oops, forgot lane condition ).

What sayeth you?  

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Re: Question concerning 10 pin leave.....
« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2008, 09:09:05 PM »
FBM357,

Ringing/stoned 10 pins are normally caused by balls not hitting the pocket that corresponds to angle of entry. Continuity has nothing to do with it, in my opinion.
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Re: Question concerning 10 pin leave.....
« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2008, 09:11:47 PM »
Not enough angle when the ball enters the pocket.  Or the ball comes in "behind" the head pin and the head pin gets cut too much to become a useful messenger and the ball won't deflect much off the head pin and just plow through the 5 pin instead of rattling around like it is "supposed" to.
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Dan Belcher

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Re: Question concerning 10 pin leave.....
« Reply #3 on: June 29, 2008, 09:24:06 PM »
While any ball is going to leave a 10 pin if you throw it at a poor angle, etc., some balls are more prone to giving you that "the 10 pin is going to stand no matter what you do!" look than others.  It all depends on lane conditions and what angle you play, etc., but my Spit Fire tends to leave a lot more 10 pins when the lanes start changing than my Cell, for example, because the ball is more prone to skating too long or hooking too early and quitting on bad shots/difficult transitioning lanes/etc.  A predictable, continuous hook is good at helping me keep a good look at the pocket, and some balls just do this better than others for me.

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Re: Question concerning 10 pin leave.....
« Reply #4 on: June 29, 2008, 09:39:03 PM »
the ringing 10 where the 6 pin flies up around the top of the 10 pin( very common ) is usually caused by slightly too much ball speed and/or entry angle. the ringing 10 where the 6 pin flies around the bottom of the 10 pin( less frequent )is a great shot----only a re-rack may have made the difference.

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Re: Question concerning 10 pin leave.....
« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2008, 04:33:12 AM »
I made the observation that balls with strong cores (high differential) are, when drilled strong and in the hand of a bowler with some hand, prone to leave 10 pins due to the huge entry angle and back end movement they can create. The ball goes out, moves back with a roaring back end move that you are left gasping for air, a nice pocket shot... but the 10 is left standing, as well as occasionaly 9 or 8 pins.

But I would not "blame" it on the ball - it is just caused by the wrong entry angle, and can easily adjusted by hand position or a different line, as well as a not-so-strong ball setup.
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