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newguy

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Win a 300 Global ball and the winner is....
« on: April 15, 2007, 12:47:01 PM »
We will give away one of our first launches. we will randomly select one lucky ballreviews submitter. simply tell us what you feel the performance you are looking for from the first 300 Global launch.  We will close the feedback Wed 17th at noon. Tell us either by comparing it to an existing product from other companies line or tell us the ultimate reaction you desire.Or simply tell us why you would buy a 300 Global ball. We will IM you and let you know when the ball will be shipped to the lucky winner. I know you will all do a good job because of the support you have shown me in the past. This is my way of gathering info and saying thanks.
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Re: Win a 300 Global ball and the winner is....
« Reply #76 on: April 16, 2007, 08:16:21 AM »
Phil,

There are many important things that I look for when I look for when I want a new bowling ball.


First, I look at where the ball starts to roll on the lane. Many that are out today it seems have two specific type of characteristics. They either have great length and great (sometimes uncontrollable) backend, or they arc really hard. Now for most bowlers, this might be enough, but neither I like really well.

One of my favorite balls of all time was the Track TKO. I loved this ball simply because it wasn't the big arc like the brunswick zones of the time, nor was it the skid snap like some of the storm and ebonite products of the time. It was in between. The medium RG medium-high differential core allowed the ball to roll early, but the mica infused Power Plus reactive gave it the length it had.

The second thing I look for in a bowling ball is coverstock durability. I don't just mean games played. Currently, many of the coverstocks out there will crack. I have seen balls with 30 games on them crack all the way around, even drilled within specs.

The third thing I am looking for is value. Yes, value. Some companies use current coverstocks and modified cores to give us high-performance balls, but to me, they aren't high performance simply because there is really nothing new and exciting about the core or cover. I hate to use company comparisons, but I will. Looking at the Agent from Storm, there really was nothing dramatically new about the ball. Just a lower RG core inside the reactor coverstock. I personally don't think it was worth the high-performance tag. Looking at ebonite(and I hate to use ebonite here, but they do have a gem), they have a radically new core inside a new coverstock with the TNV. Now I have not personally thrown the ball, but so many people in my area have had success. I'm not the biggest fan of the reaction, but I do love how the ball rolls. Reminds me much of how the TKO rolled for me.

I personally feel that the pheonix would have been in the same class of ball as the TNV. A new coverstock and a new core. That is worth the price of high performance.

Dj
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Re: Win a 300 Global ball and the winner is....
« Reply #77 on: April 16, 2007, 08:18:46 AM »
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This is what I would personally like to see out of a new ball.  One of the problems I have with  many new releases is how strong the backend reaction is.  This can be phenomenal on a THS, but in tourneys it often leaves me wanting.  This is particularly true in what I would call "medium condition" balls.  Too many of them, IMO, are just too plain strong.  I want a ball that will get through the drying heads, and not overreact in the back part of the lane.  I love the reaction of my Mean Machine on medium heavy oil because it NEVER overreacts.  It has a nice, smooth, readable transition throughout the lane that helps me reach the pocket consistently on tougher shots as well as gauge the small adjustments necessary to improve carry.  Now, when it becomes too strong, many of the "medium" oil balls I have tried turn out to be over/under nightmares.  I want to see a smooth, controllable transition down the lane with hitting power and readability, I don't need my "medium" ball to cover 15 boards.  Don't even get me started with so called "dry" lane balls.  Ugh!
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I really know what you are asking. I bowled in a tourney this week and the track area got fried, and quick. I couldn't keep anything on the lane I had, but my dry lane balls simply wouldn't come up. But no company is going to make a high performance light oil ball.

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Re: Win a 300 Global ball and the winner is....
« Reply #78 on: April 16, 2007, 08:25:15 AM »
I'd like to see a ball, probably a polished solid, that read the midlane really well and was very controllable on the backend.  A great benchmark ball that could be very versatile with surface changes.

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Re: Win a 300 Global ball and the winner is....
« Reply #79 on: April 16, 2007, 08:28:49 AM »
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Is it Tuesday the 17th, or Wednesday the 18th?  You have Wednesday the 17th in the topic...
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Re: Win a 300 Global ball and the winner is....
« Reply #80 on: April 16, 2007, 08:30:13 AM »
Clean in the front. Strong continuos in the back. Tweakable cover.
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Re: Win a 300 Global ball and the winner is....
« Reply #81 on: April 16, 2007, 08:32:22 AM »
i would like something versatile..that picks up midlane and continues through the pins...a ball that can be used on a variety of conditions...a medium condition ball that can be easily adjusted for med dry or med oily...something similar to v2 solid...

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Re: Win a 300 Global ball and the winner is....
« Reply #82 on: April 16, 2007, 08:39:49 AM »
To quote Dr. Evil..."I have one simple request".  But instead of sharks with frickin laser beams attached to their head, I would like to see ceramic cores wrapped in Soaker Coverstocks.
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Re: Win a 300 Global ball and the winner is....
« Reply #83 on: April 16, 2007, 08:44:59 AM »
I'm going to use my 12 years of product design and development experience here and offer up my $.02 worth.

If you want to get your (new) name out, you either need to come out really big with something innovative beyond comparison in the market, or introduce something that has a tremendous amount of value and that appeals to most bowlers.

I'm going with the latter and saying an entry level ball. Something along the lines of a Power Groove. A basic reactive cover stock and mild core that can be a spare ball or dry lanes ball for advanced bowlers, or a ball that will also appeal to the cosmic bowlers. Perhaps a unique or catchy color combination?

The reasoning behind this is that you will be able to target the largest audience with this, your first release. Then you can dive into the more complex releases. This would be a "get your feet wet" kind of release.

This type of ball could also be mass marketed through major sporting goods chains (a la Dicks Sporting Goods, Champs, Wal-Mart, etc.) which would help you build sales volume quickly and allow you to ramp up to the stuff you really want to do.

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« Reply #84 on: April 16, 2007, 09:11:49 AM »
I would like to see a new ball come out that has a symetrical core with smaller flip caps (like the one in the action packed or the Orbit Extreme). A cover stock that is thicker, it would help in longer lasting durability. It also seems to retain more energy for the back-end. (at least for me). I like the Super-Flex cover stocks and also the one BASF help put on the C300 Spirit. I would prefer a ball that goes "longer", but has a smooth controllable hard arc.
I don't generate a lot of ball speed, but I've got some decent revs on the ball,so a medium Rg (2.49-2.54) and a Diff .039 -.045 seem like the numbers that work well for me. A new release doesn't have to be a soft, early rolling,hard-hooking monster to take down pins, Just readable,controlable,and USABLE.

Thanks for the opportunity to give some input.

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Re: Win a 300 Global ball and the winner is....
« Reply #85 on: April 16, 2007, 09:19:51 AM »
I'd like to see a medium non-reactive urethane coverstock ball with a modern asymmetrical core.  

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« Reply #86 on: April 16, 2007, 09:27:41 AM »
I would like to see something along the lines of the Lane #1 Tsunami. Nice smooth hook but a little stronger in oil.

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Re: Win a 300 Global ball and the winner is....
« Reply #87 on: April 16, 2007, 09:33:59 AM »
Something comparable to the Black Vendetta would be a good first ball.

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« Reply #88 on: April 16, 2007, 09:35:32 AM »
I would like to see a pearl particle soaker cover on a 2.55ish RG core. Something that can be used on fresh and carrydown. I cant' give examples because I don't have anything like this.( thats why I want one)

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Re: Win a 300 Global ball and the winner is....
« Reply #89 on: April 16, 2007, 09:42:08 AM »
I would think your first release should be a benchmark type ball.  First ball out of the bag that allows you to easily read lane conditions.  Something that can handle all shades of medium with cover adjustments.  Keep the price down so that everyone will be tempted to try it.

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Re: Win a 300 Global ball and the winner is....
« Reply #90 on: April 16, 2007, 09:42:11 AM »
I believe I would go with 300 Global first off because of reputation.  Character and customer service is a HUGE part of business and with Phil's reputation from his past companies, I believe 300 Global will have a STRONG start and put out a quality product from the beginning.

As far as a first ball, I agree with everyone on a benchmark type reaction that an arsenal could be built around.  For me that would be a nice long, strong arcing motion.  Nothing too skid/snap that would show over/under.  If that reaction was needed later, then by all means put one out.  Of course Brunswick has given me this nice smooth arcing reaction in the past with several different balls, most recently the Vapor Zone.
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