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LeftyHomer10

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gloves/wrist supports
« on: January 27, 2006, 10:17:16 AM »
I have been thinking about possibly getting a glove or something like it. I was just curious as to whether anyone on here currently uses one or has used one. How much does it really help your game or is it more like a Hallmark holiday...there for show?
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Re: gloves/wrist supports
« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2006, 06:34:16 PM »
By and large, we think it will make you a pansy.  Robotic arms are for sissies.  Simply by purchasing it, you will become a limp-wristed, 90-pound girlie man.  According to this post, http://www.ballreviews.com/Forum/Replies.asp?TopicID=111617&ForumID=16&CategoryID=5, you should quit bowling if you have to resort to cheating devices like a wrist support.

I don't see anything wrong with it.  I've used them in the past when I'm bowling poorly to eliminate one possible cause of the problem.  I don't wear it all the time because it makes the ball feel odd on my hand (I suppose that I should shorten my span slightly to make up for the extra material between my hand and the ball).  

The guys I know who wear them all the time to bowl can bowl well without it as well, they have little trouble keeping their wrist firm anyway, so it isn't a lack-of-revs issue.  It's all about consistency, repeatability, and stamina.  I don't consider it cheating, nor do any of the people around here that I bowl with and respect.

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« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2006, 06:47:05 PM »
Thanks for your input into this and my other post. I was more thinking of a glove (like PDW) rather than a support, but I will take the point being the same: if you don't need it, don't bother. Thanks.
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Re: gloves/wrist supports
« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2006, 07:35:41 AM »
I use a cut down golf glove. I removed the thumb and the tips of the 2 bowling fingers.
I use it because I have a bit of a pull in my index finger and the glove adds a bit of support.
Ive noticed a few more revs and a better grip on the ball using it so when my finger is better I may continue using it, I dont know yet.
Strange but both my highest game, highest series and best average for a season are this season when im using the glove. Strange but true.
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Re: gloves/wrist supports
« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2006, 09:50:18 AM »
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Yrs ago, there was a Don Carter glove that had a pad in the palm of the hand near the base of the thumb. It was designed to allow one to get their thumb out quicker and it worked. I wore one all the time and was still using a glove until I laid out a yr or so ago.

 


It is still available today. (see the Blue One, the 7th one down)

http://www.blockbusterbowling.com/catalog/CatalogMgr.pl?cartID=b-4130&SearchField=category&SearchFor=EBgloves&template=Htx/deptgloves.htx&hdr=Ebonite%20Gloves&displayNumber=10
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Re: gloves/wrist supports
« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2006, 11:52:39 AM »
Sawbones: The analogy of a wrist brace to a cast is a bit misleading. A cast is on 24x7, for weeks or months straight. A wrist brace is on occasionally for a few hours, with many taking them off between shots. The bottom line is that the two experiences are not close to being the same.

Another thing that's lost in these discussions is that wrist braces come in all shapes, sizes, and varying degrees of functionality. You can't make a blanket statement regarding what they do or don't do. Yes, some are extremely restrictive, but others allow for a remarkable amount of flexibility. For instance, a Mongoose Optimum and a Robby's Revs II are both wrist braces, but their respective functionality and restrictiveness are night and day. It all depends on what you're looking for.

I can go either way, but I use a wrist brace to be able to compete effectively in longer formats. It's one thing bowling a 3-game league set, and completely another bowling 30-40 games over a two day period.

It's really dangerous to make generalizations in this area.
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Re: gloves/wrist supports
« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2006, 12:09:34 PM »
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when they try to bowl without it, they find they have a weak wrist.
 


Sorry Bones, but this is illogical.  Using your logic, if a person bowls with a wrist support for perhaps 10 years, then when he takes it off, his wrist will be like a noodle!  I bowl both ways, and don't find any appreciable difference in feel.  Do you have any data to support your allegation?
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In my opinion, Bones is correct here. I started wearing a wrist brace many years ago because of a marginally weak wrist. Today I am unable to support the ball through the swing & impart any lift at all without one. Any time you have to wear a brace on any part of your body, the doctors will tell you, the longer you wear it, the weaker the muscles will get in that area. Listen to DR. Bones!
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Re: gloves/wrist supports
« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2006, 12:14:33 PM »
Using a wrist brace in no way makes you any stronger or weaker than you are to begin with. I've worn a Pro-Release on & off for the last 15+ years. Without it I can hook the ball 5-10 boards more than with it. With it I have more forward roll and more overall control. If you need it use it. If it makes you better use it. If someone thinks your less of a bowler for using it, consider the source and let the pins settle the argument.

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« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2006, 12:34:32 PM »
This is all I wear.  I like it because it gives me a tad more strength in my wrist but it doesnt restrict my action too much.  http://www.bowling.com/display.asp?SKU=r37-10-16
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Re: gloves/wrist supports
« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2006, 02:00:25 PM »
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Despite how many exchanges we may have, I don't either of us will change our position on the wearing of braces.


LOL! That's probably a correct statement. Regardless, I guess this topic is a hot button with me because I've lived extensively in both worlds. I've thrown sanctioned 300's with and without braces, and otherwise can take or leave a brace if I had to choose.

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As for those braces that you say allow flexibility of the wrist, my question then is why does one need one of those since they evidently do not stabilize the wrist.


Stability can be in the form of vertical (cupping the ball), and/or horizontal (providing general wrist support). I like the horizontal support aspects. That's why I use the Storm Strong Arm, which doesn't keep my hand cupped, but provides horizontal relief to the wrist. You say you can bowl 30 games over a two day period, but does that mean competitively? As the lanes are quickly transitioning and you have to play the 4th and fifth arrows, that horizontal support can make the difference between carrying and leaving weak 10 pins. I don't think it's a coincidence that in the scratch tournaments I bowl, 60%-70% of the players are wearing some type of support. And many of these are former/current regional PBA members.  

Bowling is a game of successful repetition, and for many, a carefully selected brace is part of the equation. That's simply the reality of the situation.
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Re: gloves/wrist supports
« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2006, 04:18:34 PM »
Don't worry about what anyone says, if you want to try one, go ahead.  You won't know if it will hurt or help you until you try it.  It's pretty easy to twist your wrist without realizing it, and will allow you to feel more what your wrist is doing during the shot.  The best way to describe them is they are a troubleshooting tool.  I don't need one, but if start to struggle, I put one on to help eliminate a variable if I'm not exactly sure what I'm doing wrong.

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Re: gloves/wrist supports
« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2006, 04:34:58 PM »
I wear them not because I bowl better and not because I have an injury but for the show!

I like them so much I put them on both arms!

I have very large biceps and I roll up my sleeves....with the wrist braces, and the rolled up sleeves I cut an intimidating picture.  Once I got 9 revs on theball!

I counted em 1....em 2,,,,,,ah 3.....WOW!

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Re: gloves/wrist supports
« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2006, 07:19:04 PM »
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I wear them not because I bowl better and not because I have an injury but for the show!

I like them so much I put them on both arms!

I have very large biceps and I roll up my sleeves....with the wrist braces, and the rolled up sleeves I cut an intimidating picture.  Once I got 9 revs on theball!

I counted em 1....em 2,,,,,,ah 3.....WOW!

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Thanks Lucky, I needed a good laugh today

And Shelly, if you would have read my post that you posted the link to, you would have seen that my whole point was that I find/found it comical when persons arm is covered with them...

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