Author Topic: Your preference of Coverstock Prep on Lighter Oil balls? (Read 1262 times)

Ric Clint · « **on:** April 22, 2005, 03:47:06 PM »

Do you find it okay to lightly scuff Medium/Light to Lighter Oil balls? Like the Crisis Pearl, Sonic X Pearl, Barrage, Big Hit Pearl, Scout Pearl, Orange Flame, etc.?

I've heard of people doing this? I know that if you are gonna be using the ball on more oil than the ball was designed for that it would have to be scuffed in order to get any kind of hook out of the ball... but what about actually using one of these balls on Medium/Light to Lighter Oil (but not Dry though)?

Say taking a ball from a high gloss down to say 1000 grit polish?

This is basically done to smoothen out and even out the reaction but do you think the ball would still have some hitting power if this done?

Basically when you are on Medium/Light to Lighter Oil shots and are using these types of balls... do you have them freshly highly glossed to say 3500-5000 or more like 1000-1200 polish?

So all you Big Hit, Sonic X, Barrage, Scout Pearl, and Orange Flame users out there... what is your ball's coverstock prep???

Thanks!

stanski · « **Reply #1 on:** April 22, 2005, 11:50:58 PM »

Depends on what I am looking for out of the ball/if the oil is longer yet light or the lanes are just plain broken down.

I have a hit polished from 2000 with coats of control it and lustre king. The control it gives it length, lustre king gives the backend control.

The problem with sanding the ball for lighter shots for me is that my speed is too slow to get the ball far enough down the lane. If I had higher speed, I could viably see doing this, but i need all the help i can get getting the ball down the lane on light oil.

I do have a tornado that I keep at 1500 sanded for lighter fresh tournament conditions (works well on sport shots). I like this surface prep for lighter sport shots, as there is some length inherent to the pattern, but you don't want the ball to snap too hard off the dry.
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MSC2471 · « **Reply #2 on:** April 23, 2005, 07:50:52 AM »

I left the Barrage in box condition and I haven't seen this ball overreact on any of the drier conditions I've faced. I've pondered the idea of taking one of my light oil balls down a little bit and then applying polish to it- the theory behind this that the ball will bleed a little energy in the mid-lane but still save enough for the back end hit. I think you may wish to experiment with one of your lighter oil balls and see from there- letting us know your results on a couple of conditions...

Matt

Strider · « **Reply #3 on:** April 23, 2005, 09:55:20 PM »

I think the high grit sanding with no polish works best for people with higher speeds. I'm a little slow (pun intended!), so I like to choose non-flippy balls, sand them fine (1500-2000 grit) and polish them to 3000-5000.
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loose5682 · « **Reply #4 on:** April 23, 2005, 10:02:26 PM »

I'm with Strider on this one, I like taking a ball to about 4000 Abralon, and then polishing it real good. Still gives it a LOT of length, and more of a SMOOTH arc in the backend than a pop.
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loose5682 · « **Reply #5 on:** April 24, 2005, 08:06:22 PM »

Nope, definitely not heavy wall conditions. Any sort of short oil shot, or flying backends (i.e. Habetler Bowl, for those from the Chicago area) this type of coverstock prep works well on. I also like to pair it up with a 3x4 (roughly) layout. Something like this...
http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wODkwNTk1NnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE%3D.jpg

Now I know this is a Dry Heat, and I know this ball is generally a drier lane ball to begin with, but I've also had success with this layout/cover prep on a Coral Triton, and that thing is DEFINITELY sideways at the breakpoint...not so with this layout/cover prep.

The shorter pin-to-PAP distance lets the ball roll use a little bit of energy in the midlane (so it's not as squirty, especially with higher speeds) and the cover prep definitely gets the ball to the breakpoint without much squirt, and without much POP at the back, it's more of a roll.

I can't stress enough how much I like this drill when I want to play straighter on the toastier conditions I see.
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stanski · « **Reply #6 on:** April 24, 2005, 08:11:17 PM »

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Nope, definitely not heavy wall conditions. Any sort of short oil shot, or flying backends (i.e. Habetler Bowl, for those from the Chicago area) this type of coverstock prep works well on. I also like to pair it up with a 3x4 (roughly) layout. Something like this...
http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wODkwNTk1NnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE%3D.jpg

Now I know this is a Dry Heat, and I know this ball is generally a drier lane ball to begin with, but I've also had success with this layout/cover prep on a Coral Triton, and that thing is DEFINITELY sideways at the breakpoint...not so with this layout/cover prep.

The shorter pin-to-PAP distance lets the ball roll use a little bit of energy in the midlane (so it's not as squirty, especially with higher speeds) and the cover prep definitely gets the ball to the breakpoint without much squirt, and without much POP at the back, it's more of a roll.

I can't stress enough how much I like this drill when I want to play straighter on the toastier conditions I see.
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3 inches from pap? looks more like 2 from the pap you gave (6 over 1 up). I'm of course guessing that the hole is roughly 6 inches over (which many proshops are very fond of using to remove sideweight.
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loose5682 · « **Reply #7 on:** April 24, 2005, 08:19:51 PM »

If I remember correctly (which I may not, I drilled this thing awhile ago...) the hole was 5" over. Not sure though. It may be closer to about a 2.5" pin-to-PAP, and stanski, you are right, 6 over, 1 up for me and my PAP.
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Strider · « **Reply #8 on:** April 24, 2005, 09:28:30 PM »

If I had a problem with it, I wouldn't do it, lol. Don't forget that everyone's definition of dry is different. I've thrown my light oil ball on the same pair of lanes as people throwing oil eaters, and no one will confuse me with Robert Smith. I may not have read Ric's post the same as you, but I've had no problem using a Blue Hot Flame with the cover prep I described on a medium light house shot. For my game, I'd rather throw something mild covering fewer boards as opposed to throwing something stronger and hooking the lane. Keeping the ball in play is better for me than triple, greek church, double, 3-4-6-7-10. I haven't thrown on a heavy wall in some time. Sure, I like to swing the ball, but I don't bowl anywhere where the outsides are super dry.
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stanski · « **Reply #9 on:** April 25, 2005, 10:51:09 PM »

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If I remember correctly (which I may not, I drilled this thing awhile ago...) the hole was 5" over. Not sure though. It may be closer to about a 2.5" pin-to-PAP, and stanski, you are right, 6 over, 1 up for me and my PAP.
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Ok, in that case, you are probably right, it is probably 3 inches from the pap. I assume too much (and am too used to seeing crappy proshop operators who just always throw in a hole 6 inches over whenever there is too much side weight).
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Edited on 4/25/2005 10:44 PM

Author Topic: Your preference of Coverstock Prep on Lighter Oil balls? (Read 1262 times)

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