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Greg T

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I need honest.....
« on: October 06, 2007, 03:40:06 PM »

 opinions on the longevity of the MoRich coverstock. I'm looking at the LevRG and wanted to know about reaction loss, coverstock death etc.


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Re: I need honest.....
« Reply #16 on: October 07, 2007, 05:28:53 PM »
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Cmoore,

I am sorry you had a problem with your Haus machine.
I guess you needed the backend help from the MoRich cores to do that. Congratulations. That's impressive anywhere.



Charlest,

There was "NO" problem whatsoever with Haus machine or diamond wheels. We even tried 60 grit sandpaper. Nothing we tried would cut into the cover... These were free test balls from Lanemasters, so maybe they were from a test run or something, but the covers were super tough!!

I am slightly rev dominant, so do not need back end help. I like MoRich for pin carry, not backend help. I carry far more ten pins with MoRich than with any balls used previously. Which is good, cuz I miss most of the ones I leave - LOL

Thanks on the congrats for the average. I am there because of John Jameson's help, MoRich balls, some talent and THS...
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« Reply #17 on: October 07, 2007, 06:16:53 PM »
cmoore3wins,

I said that I'm sorry about the Haus machine because my spinner and my abrasives were able to change my and friend's Lanemasters and Legends ball reaction. I can only assume I was successful in modifying the diamonds' and the "supercarbon"'s  surfaces because the ball reaction changed drastically. That makes me believe there might have been some undetected anomalies with either the Haus's diamond pads or the machine itself. I cannot tell and I probably couldn't if it stood up and yelled at me.

I remain sad that you were not able to modify lanemasters balls to your satisfaction. While they may never exceed MoRich balls in your opinion, I am certain you would at least have been more satisfied with them than you are now.

I also find Lanemasters balls, as well as several other good balls from other brands, to kick out 10 pins very fiercely, as you say MoRich does for you.

There are brands for me also which I could not not get to work as well as I would have liked. Even now I found it hard to even get myself to try some of them, even when many ballreviews members boast much success with them.

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« Reply #18 on: October 08, 2007, 08:48:20 AM »
Drevv nothing against you here dude but most of us no how to take care and maintain gear.

Mo's stuff hold up forever, I had the old Hercules with over 500 games on it when I finally sold it to anither guy and he is still using it now it just does not quit I have never had and issue with any of their stuff dying on me even their particle stuff hold up forever. Overall Mo is a great product I can't say enough good stuff.
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« Reply #19 on: October 08, 2007, 07:34:42 PM »
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mainzer, it was no big deal to me either but I was trying to tell this guy that there really is no difference between 1 maker and another if the ball is properly maintained, based on his response, I thought he was kind of an Idiot for asking about Longevity from a Brunswick made MoRich product if he was that educated on this game. People that normally ask that type of question have very little experience in this game and that's what he sounded like.
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  Had you paid attention to my posts you would have seen that i have been throwing Ebo equipment for 10+ years. How is that supposed to give me experience with different mfgs? I bow to your prowess, old great one and apologize for my ignorance. For what the hell was I thinking, asking a moRich question in the MoRich forum?? DUH!!! I guess if I have a question about Track, Columbia or Hammer I should ask it in the Ebo forum?? Douchebag.



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« Reply #20 on: October 08, 2007, 10:07:38 PM »
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mainzer, it was no big deal to me either but I was trying to tell this guy that there really is no difference between 1 maker and another if the ball is properly maintained, based on his response, I thought he was kind of an Idiot for asking about Longevity from a Brunswick made MoRich product if he was that educated on this game. People that normally ask that type of question have very little experience in this game and that's what he sounded like.
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  Had you paid attention to my posts you would have seen that i have been throwing Ebo equipment for 10+ years. How is that supposed to give me experience with different mfgs? I bow to your prowess, old great one and apologize for my ignorance. For what the hell was I thinking, asking a moRich question in the MoRich forum?? DUH!!! I guess if I have a question about Track, Columbia or Hammer I should ask it in the Ebo forum?? Douchebag.



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Edited on 10/8/2007 7:35 PM


You'll have to ignore some people Greg.

Some people like to use words like "idiot" on people, yet these are the same people that ask the same question they asked 1 year ago.  Answer hasn't changed, so they pitch a fit and cry that a picture from 10 years ago looks different today - how dare a company update their pictures!

Me thinks some people have no business calling other people an "idiot."
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Re: I need honest.....
« Reply #21 on: October 10, 2007, 06:05:31 AM »
Greg T, I will start out by saying that you will have no problems with Morich covers at all. I have had the same Big E experience with covers as you also. I see you did not like the strike zone and you like a long and strong reaction. I seriously doubt you will like Morich at all based on that. If you have good hand in the ball, Morich balls are rolly and all about control for the most part. I dont give a "F" how you drill it people, that is just the personality of the ball if you can put anything into a ball off the hand. I have owned lots of Morich stuff with various drillings and that is what they are. They are great for low/medium rev/speed dominant/spinners that need help from the ball. These balls will trun over great for that type of player. If you thought the Strike zone was rolly for you at all, dont go with Morich becasue it will be even more that way.

BTW, I personally like L/L balls. You might want to try one.

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« Reply #22 on: October 10, 2007, 09:54:51 AM »
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Greg T, I will start out by saying that you will have no problems with Morich covers at all. I have had the same Big E experience with covers as you also. I see you did not like the strike zone and you like a long and strong reaction. I seriously doubt you will like Morich at all based on that. If you have good hand in the ball, Morich balls are rolly and all about control for the most part. I dont give a "F" how you drill it people, that is just the personality of the ball if you can put anything into a ball off the hand. I have owned lots of Morich stuff with various drillings and that is what they are. They are great for low/medium rev/speed dominant/spinners that need help from the ball. These balls will trun over great for that type of player. If you thought the Strike zone was rolly for you at all, dont go with Morich becasue it will be even more that way.

BTW, I personally like L/L balls. You might want to try one.


  I cant say for certain what the problem was with the Strike Zone. It just skidded and didnt wrinkle at all. Yet, when I purchased the original One I had a hard time finding the right side of the headpin. I am a higher speed tweener with a medium/high track and I love long and strong. As I said, I find that Ebo is a perfect match for my game but I refuse to throw away 4 or 5 balls every season. I'll quit bowling before I continue to do that.

  I need something with an exaggerated backend motion because our lanes don't aide the ball's break. We have very weak backends and somewhat decent head oil. I just dont want something that starts up too early.


                 


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« Reply #23 on: October 10, 2007, 09:58:59 AM »
Greg, are you looking at going with 1 company or mixing it up a bit?
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« Reply #24 on: October 10, 2007, 10:07:22 AM »
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  I am not brand loyal. I will buy reaction, not logo. I am throwing a Beat'N for the first time tonight and will get a reation from that, then, I will look for something to compliment that reaction. This may be something stronger, or longer, or weaker. I wont know until I throw tonight.

  What I DO know is that I want some durability. And, as I said, with out conditions I need length with a very strong backend.



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« Reply #25 on: October 10, 2007, 10:15:32 AM »
I know this isn't Morich, but if you like Ebo type stuff and the BeatN lasts longer for you, take a look at the Black Widow.  Pretty darn snappy for a solid reactive at its box 4000 grit finish.  Also, the Break from 900Global seems quite strong, a tad stronger than the BW even.
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« Reply #26 on: October 10, 2007, 11:47:44 AM »
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I know this isn't Morich, but if you like Ebo type stuff and the BeatN lasts longer for you, take a look at the Black Widow.  Pretty darn snappy for a solid reactive at its box 4000 grit finish.  Also, the Break from 900Global seems quite strong, a tad stronger than the BW even.
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  I will consider these after I see what kind of reaction I'm getting from the Beat'N. I'm going to try two different companies at the same time. I wont buy another Hammer right now, considering who owns the company. This cover may not be any better. It may be exactly what I want. Time will tell. So for now, I will purchase another reation from another company.



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« Reply #27 on: October 10, 2007, 11:40:33 PM »
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Greg T, I will start out by saying that you will have no problems with Morich covers at all. I have had the same Big E experience with covers as you also. I see you did not like the strike zone and you like a long and strong reaction. I seriously doubt you will like Morich at all based on that. If you have good hand in the ball, Morich balls are rolly and all about control for the most part. I dont give a "F" how you drill it people, that is just the personality of the ball if you can put anything into a ball off the hand. I have owned lots of Morich stuff with various drillings and that is what they are. They are great for low/medium rev/speed dominant/spinners that need help from the ball. These balls will trun over great for that type of player. If you thought the Strike zone was rolly for you at all, dont go with Morich becasue it will be even more that way.

BTW, I personally like L/L balls. You might want to try one.


  I cant say for certain what the problem was with the Strike Zone. It just skidded and didnt wrinkle at all. Yet, when I purchased the original One I had a hard time finding the right side of the headpin. I am a higher speed tweener with a medium/high track and I love long and strong. As I said, I find that Ebo is a perfect match for my game but I refuse to throw away 4 or 5 balls every season. I'll quit bowling before I continue to do that.

  I need something with an exaggerated backend motion because our lanes don't aide the ball's break. We have very weak backends and somewhat decent head oil. I just dont want something that starts up too early.


                 


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You know, I had a Ravage, and Absolute, and another one I dont remember what it was that didnt wrinkle at all either. Seriously, it was straighter than a spare ball. I think once in a while something must have happened with the batch of stuff for the covers???? That is probally what was up with the Strike Zone. I had plenty of luck with many other Big B covers though.

Have you tried any of the new offerings from Storm?

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« Reply #28 on: October 11, 2007, 07:39:52 AM »

 Nope. The first thing I've thrown other than Ebo is the Beat'N I just threw last night. Awesome ball, but now I am in need of something with a tad more length to compliment that. I'm looking into all options at this point.



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« Reply #29 on: October 11, 2007, 08:41:34 AM »
i have had zero success with any morich product. From the collossus to the awesome finish. The coverstocks die quicker than anyother product besides storm. I am sticking with Insite because they are quality products made from a quality company (visionary manufactures their balls). I have never had so much success with any other equipment. Every ball form insite has great carry potential and they all hit the pocket like a truck. Morich makes good products but since they are made by brunswick they lack durability. The covers will die within 20-25 games. They soak up oil so much quicker than any other company. What has worked well for you in the past Greg T???
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« Reply #30 on: October 11, 2007, 08:49:42 AM »
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Morich makes good products but since they are made by brunswick they lack durability. The covers will die within 20-25 games. They soak up oil so much quicker than any other company.


I can't tell you that your balls didn't die, but you are definitely the exception and not the rule.  Powerkoil18 and Activator (which are the two most common Big B covers and what's been on Mo's balls for a while) are two of the most durable, longest lasting covers you can buy.

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