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urethane MoRich
« on: July 08, 2009, 02:24:27 PM »
wouldn't it be nice if Mo followed along with a urethane ball with the ez rev core? I was rolling my new/used nsane and I love the way it rolls but as usual it's to strong for most house conditions.I think a urethane levrg would be a great ball to own. Thoughts.....
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Re: urethane MoRich
« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2009, 10:29:52 PM »
Just wait for the Desperado to be released... I don't think there is enough of a market for two asymmetric urethane balls.

The Solid LevRG is certainly not urethane, but the cover is quite tame compared to the others Mo has used.

I think the new Frenzy is a step in the right direction to get his equipment into the hands of more bowlers.  With a weaker asymmetric strength this ball should be a lot more layout friendly as well.


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Re: urethane MoRich
« Reply #2 on: July 09, 2009, 12:31:25 PM »
which company is releasing the desperado?

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Re: urethane MoRich
« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2009, 12:41:13 PM »
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which company is releasing the desperado?


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Re: urethane MoRich
« Reply #4 on: July 09, 2009, 12:43:07 PM »
thanks j_mac

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Re: urethane MoRich
« Reply #5 on: July 09, 2009, 08:59:13 PM »
drrev, any thoughts on the storm natural yet?  thanks...
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Re: urethane MoRich
« Reply #6 on: July 09, 2009, 09:05:12 PM »
When you use High degree drilling angles combined with a MB placed past the VAL you can mimmick a urethane roll off of friction with just about any strong assymetrical ball and a fine grit surface.  Why not use some of Mo's great drilling theories to fine tune a reaction instead of waiting around for something urethane that might come out once every 5 years or so?
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Re: urethane MoRich
« Reply #7 on: July 09, 2009, 10:33:51 PM »
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Mo has only 3 basic drilling starting points for all 3 PAP placements, the Theories your eluding to are not on drill sheets so unless you have Mo in your pro shop telling you how to turn an agressive cored reactive ball into a Urethane look, your stuck with slight fine tuning with surface and weight hole depth's. So while you have been turned on to the Magic of Mo's teaching's, the rest of the world has to Weak drill Mild reactives which may get down the lane great but hit like 10 pound balls or drill Plastics really strong and sanding heavy or dream of the day when someone would simply take a chance a make a Strong Asymmetric Urethane!
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Do some research, and try again.  The material is very public for anyone to find out.  Most knowledgeable drillers will have such stuff on hand and have a firm grasping of more modern drilling methods.  It's not an "industry secret" that some secret society only knows the inner workings to, that would be Lane 1's Voodoo Statics.

As quoted from Morich website -- http://morichbowling.com/Drilling/BowlingBallDrilling.htm

"And to further your knowledge on the newest drilling techniques, take a look at the new "DUAL ANGLE", "GRADIENT LINE BALANCE HOLE", and "DOUBLE THUMB" seminar papers."
http://morichbowling.com/Drilling/DualAngleSeminar/DualAngleSeminar.htm
http://morichbowling.com/Drilling/GradientLineBalanceHole/GradientLineBalanceHole.htm
http://morichbowling.com/Drilling/DoubleThumbDrilling/DoubleThumbDrilling.htm

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Wow, don't pictures help? In summary, the DUAL ANGLE LAYOUT TECHNIQUEâ„¢ is composed of three parts: the drilling angle, the Pin to PAP distance and the angle to the VAL. Ultimately, the success of this system depends on the ability of the ball driller to make accurate choices for all three!

***The effective use of DUAL ANGLE Layouts

The beauty of the DUAL ANGLE LAYOUT TECHNIQUEâ„¢ is that it allows the ball driller to keep the desired ball reaction in perspective when matching the bowler to the lane condition. By making a good decision in choosing the Pin to PAP distance, the ball driller can determine the amount of friction between the ball and the lane by controlling the track flare of the drilled ball. Once the amount of friction is determined, the ball driller can shape the breakpoint by choosing the drilling angle and the angle to the VAL. Adding the drilling angle and the angle to the VAL together will allow the ball driller to choose how quickly the ball will transition from skid to hook to roll.

If the two angles add up to 30°, the ball will transition as quickly as possible. If the two angles add up to 160°, the ball will transition as slow as possible. Keep the sum of the two angles between 30° and 160° to create effective ball reactions while still allowing the ball to maintain hitting power. Yet the drilling angle must still be kept between 10°and 90° and the angle to the VAL between 20° and approximately 70° (depending on the bowler's track).

Smaller angle sums should always be used for:

Speed dominant players
Higher axis tilt players
Longer oil patterns
Higher volumes of oil on the lane
Larger angle sums should always be used for:

Rev dominant players
Lower axis tilt players
Shorter oil patterns
Lower volumes of oil on the lane
Medium angle sums should always be used for players whose ball speed and rev rate match.

Keep this in mind -- the sum of the drilling angle and the angle to the VAL determines how quickly the ball transitions from skid to hook to roll. Using a smaller sum of the two angles will turn translational energy into rotational energy faster.  And the shape of the breakpoint can be controlled by changing the relationship between the drilling angle and the angle to the VAL.

Larger drilling angles in relation to the angle to the VAL will create later, sharper breakpoints (more backend).
Smaller drilling angles in relation to the angle to the VAL will create a sooner, heavier roll (more midlane).
***Conclusion

Using the DUAL ANGLE LAYOUT TECHNIQUEâ„¢ developed by MoRich, allows the ball driller to design precise ball reactions by choosing the drilling angle, the pin to PAP distance and the angle between the Pin to PAP line and the VAL. By knowing the dynamic potential of the undrilled ball and the ball reaction desired for the bowler, the ball driller can create the exact ball motion for every bowler by using the DUAL ANGLE LAYOUT TECHNIQUEâ„¢. Once the ball is drilled, it is easy to make surface adjustments to adjust the ball reaction for different lane conditions, oil patterns, and lane surfaces.

Bear in mind, the degree to which DUAL ANGLE layouts will be successful depends on the ability of the ball driller to make good decisions for all three components of the system.

 

Lots of good information.  If your driller doesn't know that large pin angles to the VAL and short MB angles produce a decrease in overall hook with a more forward rolling and mellow reaction on the backend like a urethane, then I'd really suggest letting someone else be in charge of giving you a ball reaction.
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Edited on 7/9/2009 10:36 PM

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Re: urethane MoRich
« Reply #8 on: July 09, 2009, 10:38:55 PM »
^^^^^^
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Re: urethane MoRich
« Reply #9 on: July 10, 2009, 09:19:24 AM »
drrev if you can tune a reavtive piece down you can get a greater angle later on the lane with the same number of boards covered as a Urethane ball, the higher angle creates more carry. that would be an advantage to reactive over the urethane.

Something similiar to what I did with my Ravage VII. It hardly hooks but when I am needing something for a dry it is a great option flys through the heads ignores the mids and has smooth arc at the back very minimal I haven't seen it hook more than about 5 boards when playing straight up.
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Re: urethane MoRich
« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2009, 01:37:37 PM »
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Wow, thanks for all the super useful info, now tell your Buddy Mo Pinel to place this "How to make your $145.00 Medium to Heavy oil Reactive ball react like a Urethane" drill sheet in each and every Box containing his masterpiece! I'm sure all of the info you supplied is right on the money but if I really want a Urethane reaction, I'm not dropping in excess of $220.00 to get it, as I've stated, I will soon be able to just Buy an Asymmetric Urethane (Seismic Desperado) and not have to have a Physics degree to drill it!
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That's fine and all too, to each it's own.  However the original topic was for a Urethane Morich ball.  Mo's standard since it's inception are durable tweakable covers with core versatility to fine tune the reaction shape you want.  If more people trusted their pro shop operator, and if more pro shop operators were up to par in drilling science then the ending consumer wouldn't have to worry about having a "physics degree" to acheive a reaction.
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Re: urethane MoRich
« Reply #11 on: August 24, 2009, 01:54:58 PM »
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drrev if you can tune a reavtive piece down you can get a greater angle later on the lane with the same number of boards covered as a Urethane ball, the higher angle creates more carry. that would be an advantage to reactive over the urethane.

Something similiar to what I did with my Ravage VII. It hardly hooks but when I am needing something for a dry it is a great option flys through the heads ignores the mids and has smooth arc at the back very minimal I haven't seen it hook more than about 5 boards when playing straight up.
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Love to see a pic or video got one? how is drilled?