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Nicanor

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Is the N-Sane a light oil ball?
« on: December 27, 2007, 01:29:03 AM »
I drilled a N-Sane for my Son and me and the ball does very little for either of us even in medium oil.  We tried them at three different houses the first (only I tried the N-Sane on this shot) being a Christmas tree shot and the N-Sane was even weak on this oil pattern.  We tried it on a shot where we don't know the amount of oil, but its 3-1.  The manager of the bowling alley was trying to lower scores so he put enough oil on the outside to slow down the stand left throw right high scoring shots.  No luck on this shot either.

The third house was my Son's afternoon league.  I bowled a 6 game league on the lanes in the morning and there was a league after us and then my Son's league.  There is no re-oiling till after my Son's league on my Son's league side of the house.  This was the first place he threw the N-Sane.  We got there early for him to throw a game.  He started to throw the ball and it skidded way too far to ever recover.  After a couple of shots we found out they had already oiled that side of the house.  When he went to the side of the house where his league would be, the lanes had not been oiled.  The N-Sane worked extremely well on this left over shot.  It had been bowled on all day without being re-oiled.

So this is not a slam on the N-Sane and I know I could adjust the cover, but he already has a Resurgence, Black Widow and Attitude Shift so he doesn't need another heavy or medium heavy oil ball.

Just wanted to know if this ball was intended for lighter oil or short oil.




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roger

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Re: Is the N-Sane a light oil ball?
« Reply #16 on: December 28, 2007, 05:49:36 AM »
Hi,

Nicolas, I have a LevRG and I would like to know to where the MB is more strong to the VAL or to the thumb?

Thank you
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Slopsurprise

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Re: Is the N-Sane a light oil ball?
« Reply #17 on: December 28, 2007, 06:23:04 AM »
quote:

Just wanted to know if this ball was intended for lighter oil or short oil.




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Mo does not make a ball for this condition if you have any kind of hand in the ball. Unless one is very speed dominant or a spinner, Mo does not make a true light or dry ball.

Edited on 12/28/2007 7:24 AM
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NicholasE

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Re: Is the N-Sane a light oil ball?
« Reply #18 on: December 28, 2007, 09:47:33 AM »
quote:
Hi,

Nicolas, I have a LevRG and I would like to know to where the MB is more strong to the VAL or to the thumb?

Thank you


I couldn't tell you really. Its all about how you roll the ball. I can tell you what works best for me. And that is the MB location on my balls are usually about 1-2" right of my thumb hole, usually to the right of it on pin up balls and the ones where the pin is right of the ring the MB is usually down 1" and over 2". But just because it works for me doesn't mean it works for anyone, what I would do in your case is to get a proshop to watch you throw the ball and get your information, and most cases they can tell you what you need as far as layout with what your wanting the ball to acheive.

For me I like the LevRG to be a rolling bowling ball as apposed to it being a hooking bowling ball. The LevRG can get pretty angular if drilled up to be but there is no need with it. well as I remember the wider amount of degrees on the ball layout will increase backend from a range of about 30-90 degrees but most stay around a 75 degree layout. Its just hard to really tell about someone else and most of the time your proshop should be able to help you with stuff like that and get you the desired reaction.

This is how a pin above the ring finger and MB to the right of my thumb, CG out of line in my palm, works for me in this video, I'm throwing the Total Shock & Awe (red ball) here at 400 grit:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=HivzDx1Zx60

With watching that on an older ball the LevRG can be way stronger then that with the new core on just a house shot.

With the new dual angle layout that Mo Pinel came up with you can pretty much get any reaction out of the ball you could possibly want but I would only recommend a proshop who has gone to the siminars and knows a little about it.
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Edited on 12/28/2007 11:25 AM
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REvans284

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Re: Is the N-Sane a light oil ball?
« Reply #19 on: December 30, 2007, 11:23:09 PM »
The MB closer to the Val will smooth the ball's reaction down.  It will cause the ball to read the midlane a little sooner and not be as sharp off the spot.  

If you look at the "Control" drill on mo's site for a low tracker (like me), the diagram is listed like that, and actually a little past the Val.  But for a higher tracker, it may cause the ball to roll to early and burn up.  I don't know, I've never seen one layed out like that for someone with a higher track..

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BallsDeep

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Re: Is the N-Sane a light oil ball?
« Reply #20 on: December 31, 2007, 12:25:24 PM »
Part of the problem was definately the mass bias's proximity to the val.  The mass bias migrates toward the val as the ball rolls down the lane, when it reaches the val, the ball rolls very strong.  If the mass bias is close to the val, the ball will not retain energy for very long, and it will be a very controllable reaction (as the roll phase will occur early).  If the mass bias is too far from the val, the ball will struggle to reach its roll phase, and sometimes this will result in the ball getting too far down the lane before it reacts.  Both of these positions have a purpose, and can work quite well for certain conditions, but for the typical bowler on the typical condition its not really what one will want.

This ball also was drilled with a very far pin to pap.  That, on asymetrical pieces, will not result in a loss of flare to a great degree, but it will change the breakpoint shape.  This pin position is more of a foward roll type drill, meaning that the ball will not get super sideways at the breakpoint
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