Post by: Uncle Remus on April 30, 2009, 11:58:28 PM
Post by: Nails on May 01, 2009, 08:11:17 AM
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I've never owned one of these things, but I hate how they roll. My team mate that averages 5 pins higher than I do was throwing one of these things last night. It was solid blue. They all roll alike so the model realy doesn't matter.
Whatever.
Just because one ball with one drilling didn't match up with one bowler on one condition shouldn't make anyone jump to conclusions.
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Post by: Jeffrevs on May 01, 2009, 08:15:59 AM
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I've never owned one of these things, but I hate how they roll.
You had me moving on to the next thread at THIS ^^^^^^
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Post by: mainzer on May 01, 2009, 08:49:17 AM
This is the stupidity that hurts bowling.
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Post by: mainzer on May 01, 2009, 12:01:13 PM
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I have found Morich stuff to be really sensitive to layouts.
You need to put a little more (well a lot more)thought into what you want the ball reaction to be. Next, it crtical to know exactly what your pap is. Otherwise, sht happens..
If you get them right they are great pieces. I love my Awesome Flip and my Sahara..great 1-2 punch..
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All great points Inverted Mo's stuff is very drill specific but this guy is judging all of MoRich off of one ball one guy one oil pattern one night.
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Post by: NJStroker on May 01, 2009, 07:56:21 PM
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Im so glad people are brainwashed to think that TRACK sucks. And its even funnier when im carrying with my TRACK ball and they're going flat ten with their OTHER BRANDS ball.
Post by: Uncle Remus on May 02, 2009, 08:44:28 AM
quote:Specific is a great description. I show up at league with 1 ball. I keep 1 more in the trunk of my car just in case my ball is mangled beyond use by the lane machine. I just so happened to be skilled enough to overcome a THS. I bowled with a pro shop operator for 5 yrs that drilled every new Mo ball that came out and my team mates followed his lead. He had a hook up with Mo.(fellow Virginian), So I have seen plenty of them in action. But specefic is a great description. They make a great addition to any teenagers arsenal of 9 balls they bring to league. They can't roll a ball but they can roll the hell out of that 9 ball bag. PS. Progressive Metal? Is that metal for people that aren't quite cut out for mosh pits but they still want tough sounding lyrics? You hear about the new MoRich ball:"God Crusher of Death." It's for guys with your swagger and game profile. I thought Robert Smith had power until I read your profile. Scared me more than your signature.quote:
I have found Morich stuff to be really sensitive to layouts.
You need to put a little more (well a lot more)thought into what you want the ball reaction to be. Next, it crtical to know exactly what your pap is. Otherwise, sht happens..
If you get them right they are great pieces. I love my Awesome Flip and my Sahara..great 1-2 punch..
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c(')(') here bunny bunny bunny....
All great points Inverted Mo's stuff is very drill specific but this guy is judging all of MoRich off of one ball one guy one oil pattern one night.
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Post by: mainzer on May 02, 2009, 09:05:35 AM
I got nothing on Maximum Bob I throw my spare ball has hard as he throws his first ball no comparison between the two of us but he is my idle and I know full well I will never throw with power he does, I mean Smith does more with one hand than Belmo can do with two! But the name of the new ball sounds cool
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Post by: Uncle Remus on May 02, 2009, 05:22:09 PM
Post by: DON DRAPER on May 02, 2009, 06:11:32 PM
Post by: rockerbowler18 on May 02, 2009, 06:28:51 PM
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I have found Morich stuff to be really sensitive to layouts.
You need to put a little more (well a lot more)thought into what you want the ball reaction to be. Next, it crtical to know exactly what your pap is. Otherwise, sht happens..
If you get them right they are great pieces. I love my Awesome Flip and my Sahara..great 1-2 punch..
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All great points Inverted Mo's stuff is very drill specific but this guy is judging all of MoRich off of one ball one guy one oil pattern one night.
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I'm pretty sure that is the only way TO judge a ball, right?
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Post by: Uncle Remus on May 02, 2009, 08:09:31 PM
quote:Walter Ray can throw a fit and average 220.
hmmmmm....Walter Ray seems to be doin pretty good with Morich if you ask me
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Post by: on May 03, 2009, 12:33:07 AM
quote:powers of observation can save you a lot of money. I'll tell you who I would recommend these balls to. If you can't hit the pocket twice in a row no matter what you throw. And when you hit the pocket you refer to that 8-10 split as getting tapped. Make those occasional pocket hits count by getting one of these babies. Now the pro shop guy may recommend something like a Roto Grip Cell. He might even show you a BTM magazine and use fancy words like "2008 readers choice awards". Just remember those awards don't take into account that people refuse to buy MoRich balls. It's just stimulus money and big corporations and carbon footprints trying to keep you from change you can believe in. He probably don't even own a MoRich ball.quote:quote:
I've never owned one of these things, but I hate how they roll.
You had me moving on to the next thread at THIS ^^^^^^
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Post by: mainzer on May 04, 2009, 10:33:43 AM
quote:quote:quote:
I have found Morich stuff to be really sensitive to layouts.
You need to put a little more (well a lot more)thought into what you want the ball reaction to be. Next, it crtical to know exactly what your pap is. Otherwise, sht happens..
If you get them right they are great pieces. I love my Awesome Flip and my Sahara..great 1-2 punch..
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Keep looking... I'm sure there's a 300 in one of those balls you keep buying!!
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All great points Inverted Mo's stuff is very drill specific but this guy is judging all of MoRich off of one ball one guy one oil pattern one night.
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I'm pretty sure that is the only way TO judge a ball, right?
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So you get rid of a ball if it doesn't work on your first night with? No plug and Redrill? No X-hole? No Cover alteration? yeah right.
All I was saying was that Mo's gear in especially the EZ Rev core is very condition specific and drill sensitive it not forgiving of errors in drilling. This guy is basing everything off someone else having a rough night with the ball, He hasn't throwen a MoRich ball but they all suck cause he says they suck.
You use Ebonite I see lets throw this at you, ALL Ebonite balls die or crack after 30-50 games peroid end of story. At least you can count on MO to last longer.
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Post by: BowlinStr8t on May 04, 2009, 06:58:34 PM
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Post by: Buddy Christ on May 04, 2009, 07:12:21 PM
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I've never owned one of these things, but I hate how they roll. My team mate that averages 5 pins higher than I do was throwing one of these things last night. It was solid blue. They all roll alike so the model realy doesn't matter. Our right lane was a little tighter as my team mate starts the night with 7-10 split. To move this story along he barely shoots 600, I shoot 735. I could play both lanes the same. Going high flush on the left lane and throwing messengers all over the place on the right. I can only describe the roll of these Morich balls as mechanical. The ball is just going to do its thing with no regard for the oil pattern.The ball never goes through normal ball roll progression. It never loses the axis tilt and rotation. So if the ball decides to hook it goes dead left. My team mate avgs 212 and he throws the ball very consistantly. It look like his ball would hook anywhere between never and 40ft. If you have very little tilt and rotation these balls may work for you. They will retain whatever rotation you put on it until the ball is in the pit. I like assymetrical balls but these weight blocks seem to over power the coverstocks.
Uncle Remus, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this thread is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
Post by: mainzer on May 05, 2009, 12:00:28 PM
quote:quote:
I've never owned one of these things, but I hate how they roll. My team mate that averages 5 pins higher than I do was throwing one of these things last night. It was solid blue. They all roll alike so the model realy doesn't matter. Our right lane was a little tighter as my team mate starts the night with 7-10 split. To move this story along he barely shoots 600, I shoot 735. I could play both lanes the same. Going high flush on the left lane and throwing messengers all over the place on the right. I can only describe the roll of these Morich balls as mechanical. The ball is just going to do its thing with no regard for the oil pattern.The ball never goes through normal ball roll progression. It never loses the axis tilt and rotation. So if the ball decides to hook it goes dead left. My team mate avgs 212 and he throws the ball very consistantly. It look like his ball would hook anywhere between never and 40ft. If you have very little tilt and rotation these balls may work for you. They will retain whatever rotation you put on it until the ball is in the pit. I like assymetrical balls but these weight blocks seem to over power the coverstocks.
Uncle Remus, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this thread is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
The first three sentences radiate stupidity
+1 Buddy C
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Post by: kidlost2000 on May 05, 2009, 06:21:36 PM
The core doesn't matter. Look at the core specs. The Rg and dif and see how it compares to everything out there. All balls have to stay within USBC regulations.
In some cases with a lot of balls we have seen over the years you can have a core too strong for the coverstock which usually doesn't end well. That happens with every company out.
Your an old school way of mind that doesn't believe in someone needing a lot of equipment to score on most shots. Most people have gone away from that with the power style of bowlers. They think there is a magic ball or drill pattern for every lane condition.
If you team mate wants to keep throwing new equipment and struggle thats between you and him and has nothing to do with the equipment. He will probably do it with anything he throws if he doesn't practice more with said ball, and learn when is best to use it and how to adjust.
That applies to any bowling ball, bowler, and sport out their.
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Post by: on May 07, 2009, 07:48:28 AM
Post by: Uncle Remus on May 09, 2009, 09:47:35 AM
Post by: kidlost2000 on May 11, 2009, 05:37:17 PM
What is your ball of choice Remus?
No matter what it is, like the Morich stuff and everything else on the market it had a specific drilling sheet with suggestions for the ball and style bowler using the ball. Along with best suited lane conditions.
They are all the same. If you believe other wise you are the one who is being fooled.
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Post by: NoseofRI on May 11, 2009, 05:44:13 PM
But hey give Uncle Remus a break, it is his opinion of Morich whether his statements about his opinion are completely ignorant or not.
Post by: Buddy Christ on May 11, 2009, 05:54:41 PM
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+100 for Buddy Christ for the wonderful Billy Madison quote.
But hey give Uncle Remus a break, it is his opinion of Morich whether his statements about his opinion are completely ignorant or not.
I've always wanted to post that quote somewhere, and this thread was a golden oppurtunity.
Nothing against you, Uncle Remus, but MoRich is one helluva company, and put out pretty choice equipment. I hear they're very sensitive to drilling, so that may have been a problem. The EZ Rev core wasn't too well rated as well. But your statement about the bowling company is, like posted above, ignorant upon ignorance.
Post by: kidlost2000 on May 11, 2009, 08:48:24 PM
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Post by: Uncle Remus on May 11, 2009, 10:40:04 PM
quote:You are a classic stroker. For you I would recommend "Playboy" and switching to a fingertip grip. ........For those looking to be ignorant upon ignorance, I would suggest Aprils edition of "BTM". That is where you will find the 2008 Readers Choice Awards for the best bowling balls.
Actually Remus don't post what you throw. It may jinx the company and all who use it.
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Post by: kidlost2000 on May 12, 2009, 04:41:07 AM
You have far exceeded us in your years of bowling and drilling experience to know when a bowling ball is in no way possible a good ball just by seeing the manufactures name.
I'm guessing in BTM they give all kinds of great info on said bowling balls. Or more then likely just the manufactures specs and promotional material that is copied and pasted from their websites. I'm sure they went real in depth with the survey as well. (probably picked each companies biggest hyped ball and called it a day)
None the less I'm sure it is the end all be all of cheap advertising that people with so little understanding as yourself flock to.
I enjoy the variety that is available by so many manufactures. So many great companies and equipment it's hard to miss. Kind of like looking at Playboy, you can find something for everyone.
It's ok if you get out of the ball early and watch it roll out and go limp at the pins. I guess viagra won't fix all your problems.
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Post by: six pack on May 12, 2009, 10:36:16 PM
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Post by: Uncle Remus on May 15, 2009, 02:42:50 PM
Post by: mainzer on May 15, 2009, 04:16:16 PM
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Mr. Kidsfondled2000 you may need the viagra. I see you need your balls enhanced in order to create revs. MoRich is viagra for bowlers. Maybe your equipment is just tired of your hand. Try scoring.
only a child molester would come up with something like that from a screen name. time to grow up a little.
Answer me this in your original post you said the guy using MoRich on your team averages more than you right? Why does he average more than you if MoRich sucks so much? You must really suck if you can't average more than someone throwing Mo.
Go dream of your boyfriend.
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Post by: NoseofRI on May 15, 2009, 04:29:23 PM
quote:quote:You are a classic stroker. For you I would recommend "Playboy" and switching to a fingertip grip. ........For those looking to be ignorant upon ignorance, I would suggest Aprils edition of "BTM". That is where you will find the 2008 Readers Choice Awards for the best bowling balls.
Actually Remus don't post what you throw. It may jinx the company and all who use it.
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Wow, way to completely display your ignorance. Its the READERS choice for best bowling ball, which usually is based on how much the ball hooks in the back end because that's what 90% of the bowling world likes to see and "considers" a great ball. And the main fact is not many THS have nearly enough volume for Morich equipment. You sound like just another typical house rube that has no clue about bowling equipment and by no means can make an educated assessment of how good or bad something might actually be.
Post by: kidlost2000 on May 15, 2009, 06:42:15 PM
It still doesn't change the fact that your team mate with the same advanced equipment who out averages you, uses Morich.
Stick with your old urethane ball up ten and complain about everyone else who isn't doing the same. Remember back to the days when you thought you were good and enjoy your delusional years. Your old, confused, and disgruntle about everything. We get it.
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Post by: kidlost2000 on May 16, 2009, 02:00:15 AM
Companies in bowling do it as well.
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Post by: Uncle Remus on May 17, 2009, 08:30:47 AM
Post by: kidlost2000 on May 17, 2009, 02:10:56 PM
For over all hook and consistent back end it is the Awesome Revs. It has the most aggressive coverstock of my current bowling arsenal and is drilled medium strong on the Rico pattern. My next strongest ball would be my Chance Zone. It has a very aggressive cover that has been polished and drilled pin negative for maximum length and backend reaction.
The Morich equipment I have drilled and thrown roll great. They are in no way mechanical. I would say most of my older Track stuff (waiting to be drilled in my shop) had just as advanced if not better core and coverstock technology then my current Morich equipment. Unfortunately Ebonite killed Track for me.(circle as well) But I got great deals on the closeouts so I'm good for a few more years.
Next thing you know Remus will hate on the old technology. But I'm still going to drill the Track Synergy ETS with it's five piece core and love it anyways.
I also have a Quantum Double Helix I just drilled with about 15 games on it. How evil am I for throwing a ball with an advanced reving core and two different coverstocks?
Like I said before and people who drill equipment know, the numbers don't lie. Core technology no matter how they look, or what they are called have to fall in the range of specs set by USBC. Morich cores are the same as everyone else in the matter. Also as you see with the numbers below they aren't the highest reving cores out there.
Awesome Finish--------Smash Zone-----------Pin Slasher-----------Psycho
Rg 2.488 Dif .048-----Rg 2.46 Dif .047---Rg 2.45 Dif .046---Rg 2.48 Dif .050
Awesome Revs------------Ultra Zone-----------Playmaker-------------Sauce
Rg 2.492 Dif .053-----Rg 2.40 Dif .046----Rg 2.45 Dif .046---Rg 2.45 Dif .050
Rising SE--------------Mometum Swing-----High Voltage(circle)
Rg 2.40 Dif .055-----Rg 2.47 Dif.040-----Rg 2.52 Dif .042
Kinetic Energy----------Loud Noize-----------Chance Zone
Rg 2.49 Dif .040-----Rg 2.55 Dif.035------Rg 2.54 Dif .042
I can't wait to order that Ultra Zone.
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Post by: mainzer on May 18, 2009, 12:29:28 AM
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Post by: kidlost2000 on May 18, 2009, 01:46:11 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcEkxeaiXwo
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