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IHFN

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Shock and Awe with 5.5 inch pin.
« on: October 16, 2007, 02:03:03 PM »
I ordered a 16 pound Shock and Awe off ebay for super cheap.  I wanted to try a 16 pound ball and I like Morich so I figured I'd give it a shot.  I got the ball today.  On the box it says, 4-5.5 inch pin.  Well, the pin is 5.5 inches.  It is about 2-3 inches from the Mass Bias on the ball.  The driller I took it too, was like, "well, we are going to have to get creative.  The good thing is that the top weight is 1.2oz".  

I'm not going to be able to get it drilled until Thursday, so if anyone here has some suggestions on how to drill the ball let me know.  I usually like the pin just below my ring finger (righty), but I'm thinking that won't be possible with this ball...
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MegaMav

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Re: Shock and Awe with 5.5 inch pin.
« Reply #16 on: October 17, 2007, 12:50:53 PM »
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"well, we are going to have to get creative. The good thing is that the top weight is 1.2oz".


I'm failing to see how you need to get creative.
Pretty much anywhere on the ball with the CG will be legal, and under 1 ounce net weight after drilling.

You're guaranteed net bottom weight, thats the certainty.
No worries here.
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Re: Shock and Awe with 5.5 inch pin.
« Reply #17 on: October 17, 2007, 02:12:56 PM »
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"well, we are going to have to get creative. The good thing is that the top weight is 1.2oz".


I'm failing to see how you need to get creative.
Pretty much anywhere on the ball with the CG will be legal, and under 1 ounce net weight after drilling.

You're guaranteed net bottom weight, thats the certainty.
No worries here.


Cool.  So, one last thing I'll ask...

This could be a harsh subject, but if CG doesn't matter, then why does pin distance really matter?  Or does CG only not matter when talking about rotating left to right away from the hand? Or did my head just explode trying to think about this?  Yeah, its C, definitely C...
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Re: Shock and Awe with 5.5 inch pin.
« Reply #18 on: October 17, 2007, 02:30:32 PM »
that's a ball with tastey specs if you want to go pin up, or put a pin higher up on the VAL. those would be easy to use for the right person.
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Re: Shock and Awe with 5.5 inch pin.
« Reply #19 on: October 17, 2007, 02:41:03 PM »
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This could be a harsh subject, but if CG doesn't matter, then why does pin distance really matter?  Or does CG only not matter when talking about rotating left to right away from the hand? Or did my head just explode trying to think about this?  Yeah, its C, definitely C...


Having certain pin lengths can make it easier to use certain layouts without needing to "get creative".  If you want the pin above the fingers but only have a 1" pin, you can do it, but you'll have to drill the fingers deeper and maybe you don't want to do that.  Maybe you don't want to have to use a weight hole, you want to see how you like the reaction before you add a hole, but the layout you've chosen with some pin length dictates that you'll need one.  It's about the option to not use a weight hole or to place it where you like instead of placing it where the CG tells you to.

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MegaMav

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Re: Shock and Awe with 5.5 inch pin.
« Reply #20 on: October 17, 2007, 02:49:35 PM »
This is the exact reason why I order Asymmetrics with low tops, it just takes the CG restriction on drilling options right out of the equation.

I dont know why people wig out over low top, its actually a blessing unless you're looking for a certain size x-hole to drill.
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IHFN

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Re: Shock and Awe with 5.5 inch pin.
« Reply #21 on: October 17, 2007, 03:10:41 PM »
Again, thanks for the info all.  No wonder I come here all the time...  
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Re: Shock and Awe with 5.5 inch pin.
« Reply #22 on: October 17, 2007, 10:48:47 PM »
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Well, the pin is 5.5 inches.  It is about 2-3 inches from the Mass Bias on the ball.


HUH????????


You're probably assuming that the Pin/cg/MB are in a straight line.  It's easy to get a 5.5" pin out and a 2" cg to MB length if the cg is off the Pin/MB line by 1 1/2".
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No, what I was assuming was the "it" in second sentence was the was the same "it" in first sentence - which was the "pin"

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IHFN

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Re: Shock and Awe with 5.5 inch pin.
« Reply #23 on: October 22, 2007, 09:21:15 AM »
I finally got the ball drilled.  Pin 3 3/8ths from PAP about 2 1/2 above midline to the right of ring finger.  It looks something like this...

0 0 o  
..........pap

 0......cg
.....mb

It is a wicked reaction.  I'm really liking the ball, it is extremely angular, which is what I was looking for.  

The only thing that wasn't as good as advertised was the slogan, "It will Shock and Awe your opponents".  My girlfriend kept looking at me like I was crazy when I constantly asked her if it shocked and awed her.  Oh well...


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Re: Shock and Awe with 5.5 inch pin.
« Reply #24 on: October 22, 2007, 09:45:33 AM »
^^  Were you bowling against her?  If not, that could be the reason?!?!

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IHFN

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Re: Shock and Awe with 5.5 inch pin.
« Reply #25 on: October 22, 2007, 10:40:25 AM »
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^^  Were you bowling against her?  If not, that could be the reason?!?!

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Describing the Giants on ESPN after their MNF win
"affordable pornoponent"
 instead of "formidable opponent."  

"It's gonna be a long fall -- a quick fall."
- Emmitt Smith 10/15/08
-Worst commentator ever- fire him!


Yeah, I was bowling against her.  She was going after me, so when she was walking up to the ball return I'd ask her.  She bowled a 186 once and beat me so she never lets me hear the end of it.  This is just all part of the payback...
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