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mainzer

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Dual Angle layouts
« on: October 18, 2007, 10:03:55 AM »
Hey guys I just thought I would let you know that I will trying dual angle layouts with Awesome Finish and LevrG if I like them I might plug and redrill some of my older gear with dual angle layouts also.

I will let you know how it goes I have a NIB Finish at the shop that will be first my Pro Shop will doing better PAP measurments.
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J_Mac

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Re: Dual Angle layouts
« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2007, 09:44:38 PM »
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could you give me some info on this dual angle drilling, previously i was told to checkout the oct issue of bji, which i have yet to receive.  went to my proshop today which is listed as a core tech member and the owner was not familiar with what i was talking about.


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mainzer

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Re: Dual Angle layouts
« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2007, 08:19:46 AM »
I will try to have my Pro shop dude explain it in a way I can type on the computer then I will post it, I can't even begin to explain how it works
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J_Mac

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Re: Dual Angle layouts
« Reply #3 on: October 19, 2007, 09:38:56 AM »
My lowest combined angle is 94 deg. and it's on a WMB.  I really want to try something in the 50-70 range with my new Archon.  Hopefully it has a 4" pin on it.

One of the things I'm still stuck on with this new technique is what's the difference between a 20 deg./40 deg. layout and a 40 deg./20 deg. layout?  What is the significance of the ratio between the first angle to the secondary angle?
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OHBowler

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Re: Dual Angle layouts
« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2007, 10:53:32 AM »
JMAC, thats all ive been trying to figure out!
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Re: Dual Angle layouts
« Reply #5 on: October 19, 2007, 11:20:42 AM »
A 20 degree/40 degree layout will rev sooner and have less backend than the 40/20 degree. The smaller the first number the earlier the ball will read the lane. the smaller the second number the flippier it will be
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Re: Dual Angle layouts
« Reply #6 on: October 19, 2007, 10:43:13 PM »
What I can gather of it from reading Lou Marquez posting about it on the PBA website is that the second number is more of a flare safe angle. Really high trackers like myself (PAP 5.5 or higher) should be in the 35* range for the VAL angle. Med to low trackers (PAP 5.5-4.25) should be in the 45 to 55* VAL angle. Click on this link for the Pro Sect Motion enhancement guide. http://www.turbogrips.com/downloads/ProSectUserGuide.pdf

Mo has worked with both angles and came up with a way to categorize the balls as high and low response. The lower the combined number, the higher the response and vice versa. This is a good way to categorize an arsenal by response to friction on the lane which is the best way to build an arsenal for tournament bowling.
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