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Covert Revolt
« on: January 10, 2014, 11:45:14 AM »
Motiv Primal Rage Ball Specs:
- Color: Black Smoke All colors do vary somewhat from the picture shown.
- Coverstock: Turmoil HFS
- Core: Vanquish
- Factory Finish: 3000 Grit Sanded
- Reaction: Very strong motion and undeniable continuation
- Radius of Gyration (RG): 2.47**
- Differential (Diff): 0.056**
- ** RG and Diff are based off of 15 lb. balls
- Recommended Lane Condition: Medium-Heavy Oil
- A few tiny pit holes in the cover stock of the ball are normal



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Re: Covert Revolt
« Reply #16 on: April 05, 2014, 08:20:16 AM »



Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc):PBA50 Shark


Likes: Backend control

Dislikes: none

PICTURES AND/OR VIDEOSCovert Revolt features the all new Turmoil HFS cover stock and Vanquish core and combined with black and smoke grey graphics, the Revolt unleashes a quiet looking attack on the pins.
My Revolt is drilled pin up with no hole which is pretty much my go-to layout on a new ball.
On long patterns, the Revolt revs up early and yet provides me with great control while playing deep angles and maintaining a smooth breakpoint off the back of the pattern. The Vanquish core, .056 diff provides a strong arc to the pins. The Revolt comes finished at 3000 grit sanded but I took mine down to 2000 grit to give me a little sooner roll.
The continuation of the Revolt through the pins is typical of every MOTIV ball I have thrown, unbelievable.
Along with success of throwing the Revolt on long patterns, it is equally impressive on THS patterns as the low 2.47 RG overstock helps blend the wet/dry condition of THS giving this ball versatility.
So if your looking for a ball to play deep inside lines with while controlling the shape of the backend motion, this is your ball. The Covert Revolt...take control!
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Re: Covert Revolt
« Reply #17 on: April 06, 2014, 09:25:59 PM »


Well as you can tell by my name I usually only threw storm. But when I went down to 14 do to my dialysis access, I started having Motiv stuff drilled up by Joel Reynoso at K&K bowling services here in Las Vegas. I have the revolt drilled with pin down. Last week, I used it on the usbc nationals pattern both singles and team pattern. This ball allowed me to play deep standing 30 looking at 15 and I have no idea what my break point was. I just sent the ball to the right and it came back with a vengeance. I even sent it out to like the 2 board and it came back. That is why I love Motiv. I have slow speed and not the best rev rate but I am able to move in deep and play deep for league and tournaments.

If you are looking for a good ball for typical house leagues, I would really recommend the revolt from Motiv. Great continuation and hooking power

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Re: Covert Revolt
« Reply #18 on: April 07, 2014, 08:00:45 PM »
Motiv Covert Revolt

The Motiv Covert Revolt for me is one of the most versatile pieces to date from Motiv. This ball combines the new Vanquish core with the Brand new Turmoil HFS (High Friction Solid) Cover stock. This ball loves friction and does not shy away from Volume. I have one of these drilled at 70x5x30 and another one that is drilled 70x5x70. These two complement each other very well. These are becoming the first ball out of my bag when I do not know the shot or when I want to play a little straighter on high volume shots. I have also been able to use these on medium volume shot and really open up the lane. For me the revolt is also surprisingly angular. I have also taken the surface down from 3000 to 2000 on both of these and they now read the lane so well. This ball is rapidly becoming one of my all-time favorite pieces from Motiv. Plus the black ball provides a very unique old school look that will surely turn heads around your local center. Enjoy the new Motiv Covert Revolt.

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Re: Covert Revolt
« Reply #19 on: April 10, 2014, 06:56:44 PM »
How does a revolution begin? Throughout history we find the stories of countless revolutions that redefined not only nations, but entire ways of life. Sure we look back now and such revolutions are well documented now, but at first, many had to grow behind closed door, go unnoticed to allow them to flourish.
This very moment the bowling industry is witnessing a revolution, although it may not be apparent, it still exists. The Covert Revolt represents the very changes that are being brought to the industry by MOTIV. Although this piece appears to be just another run of the mill solid cover, large weight block ball hitting the market, the real truth can be found within its name. With the introduction of the new Turmoil HFS (High Friction Solid) cover stock wrapped around the new Vanquish core, loss of hooking and hitting power are words that will never be spoken in the same sentence as the Revolt. Despite the high friction, solid cover stock leading to an earlier roll when the ball hits the lane, the continuation through the pin deck as it reaches the pocket will leave you in awe. This piece will lend itself to many different styles on the lane, given the amount of friction that can be generated Ė lends itself to fresh, higher volume patterns. At the same time, however, there is versatile that can be found with this gem both for higher to lower rev rates, higher to lower ball speeds, the hitting power and continuation can still be found.
The moment I began rolling the ball down the lane, I knew I had found my new go to ball. The 2nd game out of the box with the Covert Revolt, I had thrown front 10 and on the 11th shot, my bane of existence, the 7 pin just would not fall for a 289. I would redeem myself that very weekend with my 5th and 6th games out of the box by shooting a 290 then following it up with a 300 for a 838 series. I had placed the same drilling I currently have placed on my 2 Cruel and there is just no comparison between the two, the Revolt blows the 2 Cruel out of the water! I apologize to those who love the 2 Cruel, believe me; I loved mine just as much. The Pin has been placed right below the ring and middle fingers (right below my bridge) and the CG kicked out. This ball is simply smooth and powerful from the minute it hits the lane to the point it connects with the 1-2 pocket (please take note I am left-handed ha ha). So what are you waiting for, itís time to Take Control! Start your own revolution with the Covert Revolt!

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Re: Covert Revolt
« Reply #20 on: April 17, 2014, 07:07:09 PM »

Rev Rate:420             
Axis Tilt:20               
Axis Rotation: 45
Ball Speed:17                 
PAP Measurements: 4 1/8 


Description:  The Covert Revolt features the Turmoil High Friction Surface cover stock and the Vanquish core, combining these two elements enables the Covert Revolt to assault its prey with a strong motion and undeniable continuation. The new Vanquish core produces an explosive 2.47 RG to increase rev potential and .056 differential for aggressive track flare.

 Out of box surface: 3000 grit sanded

Reaction:  Based off of the layout I put in this ball the Revolt gave me what I call rolling length. I never saw any skid out of this ball just a lot of roll, this is the benchmark ball in my bag. If I need to know what the pattern is going to give me the first ball out of my bag is the Revolt. It reminds me of a cleaner TR2 because itís an absolute work horse in the oil, the difference being the color of course. The Revolt just strong throughout the entire lane with no layoff anywhere.


THS (38 feet): Housing myself in the usual area standing 25 targeting 15 I saw the Revolt roll through the heads cleanly and roll into the 1-3. I never moved the entire night of league which is rare because itís normally a slight move left with my feet, with the Revolt it was a matter of moving my eyes right.


Shark Pattern (44 feet): On the heavy patterns this ball shows you what it can really do.  Standing 10 and targeting 10 I was able to play for two sets of 3 games. Donít let the 3000 surface fool you because it can and will roll through the oil. The Revolt was made for patterns like this when you want to see the ball start up  start sooner in the front part of the but still maintain a controllable ball motion. 

Summary:  The Covert Revolts best asset is its controllable hook, definitely an ideal choice for heavier volumes of oil.  I tested sanding the Covert Revolt down to 800 and not only did it retain its length it did roll that much harder off the pattern. In most cases you would see a bowling ball roll out but this was not the case. In comparison to my TR2 and Talon the Covert Revolt still lets me play the same areas as the others the difference being the ball motion is self, whereas the TR2 and Talon are heavy rolling and lazy for me the Covert Revolt is not. I can cover more boards with the Revolt preferred to the TR2 and Talon.  As I do with every MOTIV ball I encourage you to give this ball a look because I promise you itís worth your time ,after all  what is more revolting than putting up honor scores at the expense of your opponents?

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Re: Covert Revolt
« Reply #21 on: May 03, 2014, 09:43:42 PM »

Length: 41ft

Volume: 24ml

Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc): THS


The Motiv Covert Revolt is definitely a strong piece. It has great overall motion and strength. While the ballís looks are understated, its intentions are clearly to make a big move and destroy pins.
High rev bowlers are going to need some oil while it will be more versatile for medium and lower rev bowlers.
This ball has a nice read of the later midlane while still making a strong move on the backends.
Our tester had a consistently predictable move and was his favorite motion of all the Motiv pieces he's thrown to date.  It may not have the more skittish midlane look with snap of the Primal Rage, but when you are looking for more control, the Covert Revolt will be more than likely the ticket.

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Re: Covert Revolt
« Reply #22 on: May 11, 2014, 12:43:39 AM »

Length: Modified House Shot

Volume: Medium Oil


Right handed, 17 mph ball speed, low to medium rev rate, and MOTIV Staffer.  SPECS for MOTIV Covert Revolt shown in video above and picture below:

Layout: 75 x 4 x 70
PAP: 5 1/4 right 1/2 up
Ball Service:  3000 Grit Sanded (Out of Box)

The MOTIV Covert Revolt is the first ball I pull out of my bag during league and/or tournament play.  This ball is extremely consistent in how it reacts on any lane condition. During a 3 game set I typically move at most 1-2 boards left with my feet and move my eyes right 1-2 boards. 

With MOTIV's new technology, the Turmoil High Friction Solid cover stock and the Vanquish core enable the Covert Revolt to demolish the pins with a strong continuous motion on Medium to Heavy oil conditions.

If you are looking for a consistent ball that rolls through the pins  without deflecting Tte MOTIV Covert Revolt is a must have in your arsenal. 

Trust Me, you will NOT be disappointed!!!

This ball pairs great with the MOTIV Raptor Talon (Heavy Oil) and MOTIV Sigma Sting (Medium Oil).

Likes: Dependable, Consistent, Hits like a freight train demolishing all 10 pins on the deck

Dislikes: I only have 1 in my arsenal at this time.


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Re: Covert Revolt
« Reply #23 on: July 13, 2014, 06:22:35 PM »

Length:  40 ft AMF HPL (house #1), 43 ft AMF HPL (house #2)

Volume:  Medium (house #1), Medium-Heavy (house #2)

Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc):  THS


Likes:  Smooth and continuous motion, predictability, carry

Dislikes:  None

Having thrown Storm/Roto Grip almost exclusively for the past few seasons, I was interested in checking out Motiv.  After throwing the Motiv Sigma Sting, I wanted to see what else Motiv could do.  The Covert Revolt is the second Motiv ball that I added to my arsenal.  What I was looking to do in this case was have something that will be predictable on medium and medium-heavy patterns, along with consolidating some of the arsenal overlap I have.  Motiv does not disappoint here.

With this ball, I decided to take the same 5x3x4 layout that I used with my Roto Grip Outlaw, except I did not have to drill a balance hole.  What this did for me was allow the OOB cover and low RG core to really stand out and shine with what it does.  At the first house on a 40 ft THS with older HPL lanes, this ball was surprisingly clean through the front of the lane and read the midlane very well.  The smooth arc reaction it gives along with the continuous motion in back are what stand out.  Whether I played outside or moved in and adjusted my hand position, the Covert Revolt allowed me to play to my strengths. 

When using the Covert Revolt at the second house with the longer/higher volume 43ft pattern, it really showed what it can do.  This is where I think the combination of the 3000 grit OOB finish and the low RG core really worked well.  I was able to play parts of the pattern that I normally wouldn't and still had strong recovery in back with excellent carry.  This ball loves higher volumes and longer patterns.

When comparing the Covert Revolt to the Roto Grip Outlaw I have, it's basically like the Outlaw on steroids.  It's still smooth and predictable like the Outlaw but is more forgiving and can handle higher volume due to the stronger cover/lower RG core.

In comparison to the Track 919C that I have been using for certain patterns, the Covert Revolt outdoes that ball in every way.  Not only is it much more versatile for how it can be used; it does not run into the over/under that I have seen with the 919C.  That's why I would only use the 919C would only be used on certain patterns/tournaments whereas I can use the Covert Revolt on many more patterns and not be as limited in angles played.

Being the second Motiv ball I've purchased, it does not disappoint.  By offering a predictable motion, great carry power, and the ability to handle some higher volumes of oil, it's a great ball that will fit bowlers of all styles.  In my case, it will allow me to replace my Outlaw and 919C easily.

If you haven't thought of throwing Motiv before, definitely try them out.  They've been putting out some great equipment and they have something to fit everyone's game. 
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Roto Grip No Rules
Roto Grip No Rules Pearl Extreme

MOTIV Forge Fire
MOTIV Covert Revolt

MOTIV Sigma Sting

MOTIV Tribal Fire
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