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Cruel Intent
« on: October 14, 2013, 10:54:20 AM »
Ball NPS Score: 100.00
Motiv Cruel Intent Ball Specs:
- Color: Blue/Green Pearl All colors do vary somewhat from the picture shown.
- Core: Sinister
- Coverstock: Fusion Pearl Reactive
- Factory Finish: 4000 Grit Sanded
- Reaction: Strong Backend
- Radius of Gyration (RG): 2.55**
- Differential (Diff): 0.053**
- ** RG and Diff are based off of 15 lb. balls
- Recommended Lane Condition: Heavy Oil
- A few tiny pit holes in the cover stock of the ball are normal



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Re: Cruel Intent
« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2013, 08:17:54 AM »

Cruel Intent
Description: The Cruel Intent utilizes the same asymmetrical core as used on the 2 Cruel, the Sinister Core. It is now combined with the successful Fusion Pearl Coverstock as recently used on the Primal Rage and Tribal, but this time with a 4000 wet sanded finish.

Reaction: For me the Cruel Intent is a stronger benchmark ball, I can’t say it’s a true benchmark ball because I think the ball is very strong and intended for heavier/longer patterns. However, once I polished the ball it became a ball that I have been able to use on multiple house patterns from start to finish! Even with the polished finish, because of the big core the Cruel Intent was able to blend the pattern the very wet/dry house patterns.  The out of box finish has looked very good on the more intended heavier/longer patterns because it gave me a lot of controllable continuation. You can make this ball multi-dimensional depending on the surface adjustments!

Comparison: Cruel Intent versus the 2 Cruel: The 2 Cruel required me to move my target a couple boards right as well as bring my breakpoint a board closer to the pocket. The 2 Cruel just doesn’t have the same amount of continuation and recovery that the Cruel Intent has. 

Comparison: Cruel Intent versus Primal Rage: The Primal Rage allowed me pretty much to keep a similar target, but the ball was much longer and brought the breakpoint about 4 boards further from the pocket and ended up still recovering. The Cruel Intent is more controllable downlane and does like to see more oil to show its full potential. If you have a Primal Rage, but have found it to be too much backend at times, polishing a Cruel Intent will be your solution, it will be a little earlier but much more controllable downlane!

Summary: Overall, this release allows me to play many different areas of the lane, I have had success getting straighter and playing deeper on the lane thus far. The biggest strength though is that it creates more downlane hook than typical high performance/heavy oil balls, which usually hook more in the front part of the lane. Since the box surface is a matte finish, the Cruel Intent also has the potential to be even longer and stronger by polishing or sanding it with a lower grit for even more overall hook!

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Re: Cruel Intent
« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2013, 11:03:01 PM »



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Re: Cruel Intent
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2013, 08:17:50 AM »

Pin Length: 3"

Starting Top Weight: 3.2 oz

Ball Weight: 15


Pin to PAP: 4"

Dual Angle: 65 x 4" x 45

X Hole (if there is one): P3


Rev Rate: 375-400

Ball Speed:17

PAP/Track: 4 1/2 right, 3/4 up


Grit: Box- 4000

Type: (Matte, Polish, Sanded):


Length: 41'

Volume: medium-high

Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc): ths


Length: even at the 4000 grit I get easy length on the fresh heavy volume. I haven't used it on broken down lanes yet, but I don't see an issue with moving way in to keep it in the oil.

Back End: Once I got the P3 hole in it, this ball just came alive on the backend. It isn't a snap, but on a shot with more friction on the backend I would imagine it will be. What I get on the back is a quick response to friction, and a lot of recovery if I miss outside. Great continuous motion.

Overall Hook: This ball hooks more than anything I've thrown since my center went to Brunswick Anvilane synthetics a few years ago. I'm about 3-4 boards left of my Raptor Talon, with a TON more recovery.

Midlane Read: I would say its decent. When I notice it the most is if I miss outside. Its almost as if it holds off on making its big move to the pocket until it gets far enough down the lane.

Breakpoint Shape: shape is the closest to skid snap I have seen on the new synthetic surface. Hard to describe. I would call it a smooth snap.


Likes: I like the breakpoint shape combined with the predictability. Very good backend yet very controllable. Also, its always fun to hook the whole lane. Great hit and carry, too. I had a lot of unnecessary messengers flying over looking for ten pins...they were already gone. Lol. Insurance I guess.

Dislikes: I really haven't thrown it enough to find any. The only dislikes I can predict is when its used on the wrong condition. That, and I wish I could afford two more of them lol.



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Re: Cruel Intent
« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2013, 09:38:39 PM »

Length: 41 Ft

Volume: Medium

Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc): THS



The Cruel Intent is the latest release from MOTIV Bowling. With dominating power and roll on heavy oil conditions, the Cruel Intent is the most angular and cleanest asymmetric ball that MOTIV has ever made. The Cruel Intent is built with the proven Sinister core that boost track flare that promotes nice transition in very low friction environments; all harness from the asymmetry that the Sinister core is. Surrounding this monster core is the well proven Fusion Pearl Reactive coverstock that has been on such great ball as the Primal Rage and Tribal. With this cover and core combination, the Cruel Intent is the most angular and continuous asymmetrical ball that MOTIV has ever made. Are you ready to Hook The World?
INNER CORE                 Sinister

COVERSTOCK               Fusion Pearl Reactive

FINISH                        4000 Grit Sanded

The Cruel Intent is another wonderful piece in my bag. This is a definite ball to start out with when I’m bowling in high volume conditions. The 2Cruel was my first piece I got when I signed with MOITV last year and that turned out to be a go to ball for me. The new Cruel Intent now gives me that added continuation I needed when the 2Cruel was just not enough. When the lanes dictate me to go inside, I found that this ball was nice because it would get down the lane on a smooth roll and would give me great continuation to kick out the corner pins. The Cruel Intent is by far one of the more better asymmetrical bowling balls I have ever thrown and will be a nice added piece in any bag of any style of bowler.

Like: very smooth roll; nice angular motion that’s not too jerky snappy and very continuous.

Dislikes: none

I recommend the Cruel Intent for all bowlers and styles

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Re: Cruel Intent
« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2013, 10:48:37 AM »
My Motiv Cruel Intent: Drilled with the pin in my ring finger and the CG kicked out
The Cruel Intent shares the same cover the Fusion Pearl Reactive that can be found on the Primal Rage & Tribal. The core in the Intent is the sinister core which is found in the Cruel line of bowling balls.
The cover comes out of the box at 4000 grit sanded. If you bowl in an older center or a center with high friction I would suggest using MOTIV Power Gel to get through the mids.
Conditions I have used the Intent on: Yellow Brick Rd, Bourbon Street and various house/modified house shots.
Where it fits in my bag: It's now the second most angular ball in my bag and fits under my Primal Rage when that is hooking too much.
When I use it: There needs to be oil on the lane as this ball loves to chew it up and spit it out. Best reaction I have seen were on shot with a higher volume of oil.
Get ready to #HookTheLane
Bowler Specifications:
Right Handed - Power Stroker
Ball Speed – 15 mph
Rev Rate 320
Positive Axis Point (PAP) 5 right ½ up

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Re: Cruel Intent
« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2013, 09:56:41 AM »

Lane condition:  House condition
RPM: 350        Tilt: 11      Rotation: 45
Drilling:  Pin is above the Bridge and the MB is 1/2 inch right of the thumb.
Ball speed of the hand: 18
Surface: This ball is at a fresh 4000

The Cruel Intent is designed to be a aggressive asymmetrical ball with some "pop" on the backend.  The Cruel Intent does a fantastic job of combining control with power.  I have been able to use the Intent on the house condition and a sport pattern with equal success.  The fun thing with the Intent is that I have been able to play different angles while not losing any hitting power.  I have tried the Intent at a few different surfaces and the best for me is keeping it at 4000.   

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Re: Cruel Intent
« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2013, 11:25:21 AM »



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Dislikes:My review for the MOTIV Cruel Intent

    MOTIV Cruel Intent Ball Review
    My Information-
    Right-handed / Ball Speed-15mph average/ Rev Rate-280-300 rmp’s average
    Axis Rotation-45 degrees/Axis Tilt-15 degrees/PAP-5” over and 1” up

    Layout of ball tested-70x40@3 3/4” P-2 X-hole/Surface OOB 4000 grit sanded.

    Lanes tested on-14 year old Anvilane lanes. With a 42’ blended house shot.

    Coverstock- Fusion Pearl Reactive
    Core –Sinister
    Factory Finish-4000 grit sanded
    Flare Potential-High
    RG-2.55 15lbs. Diff.-.053 15lbs. Intermediate Diff-0.18 15 lbs

    Opening Thoughts

    The Cruel Intent fills the gap in the MOTIV current line-up,rather than overlapping it with another ball in its current line.
    The Cruel Intent is just what I expected.An oil ball that performs well in oil and is controllable on the fresher backends,without overreacting when it enters the backends.
    What impressed me was the combination of the Sinister core with the Fusion Pearl Reactive coverstock.The combination created a move on the friction that was slightly angular,with a very long continuation to the pins.

    MOTIV brings back the popular Sinister core from the 2Cruel ,but wraps it this time with the vastly popular and successful Fusion Pearl Reactive from the Primal Rage and the Tribal.
    The Cruel Intent is very clean through the heads,but quickly picks up traction in the midlane,thanks to the Sinister core.The energy that is used in the midlane helps to reduce the overreaction at the backend on fresh patterns.But the Fusion Pearl reactive coverstock does help it make a defined angular move,but with a long continuous move to the pins.
    I could send the Cruel Intent wide and create more area,and still get significant recovery,without worrying about it jumping through the nose and leaving a mess to clean up.
    The Cruel Intent has an almost unlimited recovery room for error.Sent it wide,and it recovers,tug it into the oil and it holds.
    With my slower ball speed and rev rate of between 280-300 rpm’s,I could slow hook the ball around the pattern.Because the Cruel Intent doesn’t reacted fast to the friction down lane.I could maintain my slower speed to the exit point through the breakpoint,and still get the Intent to make it’s heavy and long continuous move to the pins.
    On this 42’ blended house shot and lane surface,the Cruel Intent shined on this pattern because of the length of the pattern,and the blend.This helped allow me to control the backends.As long as the oil remained in the head area of the lane,the Cruel Intent could be used,but when the head oil went, the Primal Rage was the ball of choice.
    The carry for the Cruel Intent was exceptional on the fresh.I sent numerous messangers to kick out the ten pins.I even rolled out numerous four pins.
    The Cruel Intent is a ball the perfectly suits league bowlers with less revs and higher ball speed.The core and cover combination strength create a nice backend movement that’s helps them open up the lanes.

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Re: Cruel Intent
« Reply #8 on: November 22, 2013, 02:54:11 PM »
One of my favorite balls of all time was the 2 Cruel. Something about that High RG Asymmetric Core works great for my game. I skew towards rev dominant, (400 Rev Rate, Launch ball speed 18mph). I don’t encounter lane conditions that often that allow me to use a low RG core with a strong cover.  Take that great Sinister core, and wrap it with the fantastic pearl cover used for the Primal Rage… Yes, Thank You!

For me, the Cruel Intent is about 2 to 3 boards stronger than the 2 Cruel with that extra move coming on the back end.  The Intent is 3 to 4 boards stronger than the Primal Rage, with the biggest difference being evident in the mid-lane, when comparing to that ball.   

Here is a link to the ball motion video that I did where I compare the Cruel Intent to several MOTIV balls on the 39 foot Sport Compliant WTBA Seoul Pattern.

This ball is suited perfectly for me on Medium to Heavy Oil patterns. With the box finish it has just the right amount of traction in the mid-lane, that allows the ball to pick up just right and drive through the pocket. The biggest thing that stands out for me is the consistency of the carry that I see with the Cruel Intent. I am convinced that I leave fewer 10 pins than any other ball I’ve owned. When the heads get beat up towards the end of a session, I’ll transition to a Primal Rage or Tribal when I need something that’s a little cleaner through the mid-lane. 

I think I may have found my new favorite ball.  ;D

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Re: Cruel Intent
« Reply #9 on: November 29, 2013, 09:25:47 AM »
    The Motiv Cruel Intent is a ball that can "hooktheworld"  if you choose to drill it in that way.  I was looking for a ball on fresh that I could play down and in with a hard move off the spot.  The ball is designed to be used on heavy oil, I don't get "heavy oil" in my county so I am just trying to use it on Fresh.  I drilled the ball with a 70 x 3.75 x 40 drilling (inspired by Motiv video).  I got exactly what I saw in the video despite the differences in Revs, Speed, Rotation and Tilt.  That has to count for something?  Basically the ball can work for anyone and everyone as long as you match up the intended layout and use it in the correct situation.  Hats off to Motiv on that one.
     The ball got incredible length!  That was both a benefit and a disadvantage.  When the backends and the oil were fresh the ball was a striking machine.  As the fronts got drier and the backends longer the ball had to be manipulated a bit more to keep up the desired reaction.  It was not easy to get it to the pocket by just making a move left.  I had to either put a bit more rev rate into it or I had to add more axis rotation while bring my tilt a bit higher.  Would much rather switched to my pin under Primal Rage and keep my release the same.  Now mind you that I am not bowling on HEAVY volume.  I also did not choose a layout that allows you to move left and "hooktheworld".  The ball did exactly what it promised but it didn't knock my socks of.
     I am also preparing for a local PBA regional that will use the new 32' Wolf pattern.  Contrary to popular believe, Wolf is NOT a ton of friction to the right.  It is oiled all the way to the 2 board.  It is also VERY flat front to back as well as side to side.  Plays more like a 36' US Open then a Cheetah. LOTS of gutter balls if you get your shoulders open at all.  That being said, I was NOT able to play up the 2 board.  The ball got so much length, YES too much length on a 32' pattern, that I had to find a different angle of attack.  I was able to play 11 to 8 with the Cruel Intent.  It was amazing that I was playing it like a house shot when everyone else was hitting the 6 pin or the 4 pin trying to play the same area.  Like I stated before, the balls biggest benefit is also its disadvantage.  It is up to the bowler to find which is which and know when to use them.
     I do like the Cruel Intent but I am not going to say it is better than the Primal Rage.  Great ball for what I wanted it to do.  IF I used a different drilling I might have had a different opinion but I only get 1 to drill and this is my conclusion.
     Hope it helps you to make your decision.  Please watch my video and if you have any comments do hesitate to add them to the youtube comment section.  I will answer.

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Re: Cruel Intent
« Reply #10 on: November 30, 2013, 11:53:14 PM »

Pin Length: 3.1

Starting Top Weight: 3.2 oz.

Ball Weight: 16 lb, 0 oz.


50 x 4 1/2 x 35, no extra hole


Rev Rate: 400 RPM

Ball Speed: 18 MPH

PAP/Track: 4 3/8 left, 5/8 up


Grit: 4000

Type: (Matte, Polish, Sanded): Polish


Length: Variety

Volume: Variety

Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc): Both


Length: 8/10

Back End: 6/10

Overall Hook: 9/10

Midlane Read: 4/10

Breakpoint Shape: 6/10


Likes: For as much built in power this core and cover combination has, it is still quite controllable. I feel that it for me it's best used from further left outside of first arrow because of the shape my eyes see it make. It allows me to play an angle or part of the lane that I may not be able to otherwise.

Dislikes: The ball is incredibly clean, yet it seems to be very smooth down lane for me. I see the core stand up and not really give me that strong, angular shape that this Fusion Pearl cover is known for. It is going to be a niche piece for me, and probably won't see a lot of action.

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Re: Cruel Intent
« Reply #11 on: December 01, 2013, 01:42:35 PM »
Rev Rate: 420

Axis Tilt: 20

Axis Rotation: 45

Ball Speed: 17

PAP Measurements: 4 1/8


Description: The Cruel Intent is designed to handle heavy volumes of oil and is also the most angular asymmetric ball MOTIV has created to date. The cover stock on this gem is the Fusion Pearl reactive; the same cover that was used on both the Primal Rage and the Tribal, underneath the cover of the CI is the sinister core that was originally used in the Cruel C51. The CI is built to be both angular and continuous on medium to heavy oil patterns

Reaction: Long. The Cruel Intent definitely clears the heads easily and quickly picks up traction in the mid lane, in terms of cleanliness in reminds me of the silver recon as it coasts though the heads but with much more hook. Hook the world is not a myth, it’s the truth. Out of box at 4000 being a pearl you would imagine that such a ball is not meant for the oil, but this will make a believer out of you. The Intent excels in oil and is controllable on the fresh without overreacting when it encounters the end of the pattern, I can create more area moving left/right of my target without losing my ball reaction or going through the face. Recovery is not an issue with the Cruel Intent.

Conditions THS: I had a lot of fun throwing this on ths, standing in left gutter and swinging it out to five and hooked the world. No loss of continuation through the deck standing that deep.I did notice is as the oil disappeared the Intent began to roll out, from that point it became a matter of chasing the oil. I found plenty playing between the second and first arrow, this ball is versatile.

London Pattern (44 feet): Impressive. I was able to play deep standing ten from the left rolling over fifteen out to ten and watch the Intent recover and roll through the pins. I've never had this type of recovery in oil with 4000 abralon surface, I was also successfull standing fifteen and playing down fifteen riding the oil to the pocket.The Intent did everything I wanted it to do, this ball handles oil very well

Summary: The Cruel Intent is perfect for those with less revs and higher ball speeds and vice versa as the cover/core strength will allow them open up the lanes. If you were a fan of the Primal Rage or the Tribal I strongly encourage you to give this ball a gander.Don’t be cruel as I promise you its worth your time.

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Re: Cruel Intent
« Reply #12 on: December 08, 2013, 12:21:31 PM »

4 ¾” x 4 ¼” XH P1
54 x 4 ¾” x 73

Test Condition:

Modified House Shot, 39ft
Brunswick Pro Lane surface

The Sinister core makes its return in a big-hooking way within the Cruel Intent.  By wrapping Sinister (2.55 RG, .053 Diff) in the successful Fusion Pearl cover (finished at 4000 Abralon), Motiv now has a heavy oil ball that flips on the backend without giving up traction or power.  I laid mine out pin down so that I could take advantage of the strength of the coverstock knowing that the asymmetry of the core would still give me a strong, continuous backend reaction.  While throwing this ball on the fresh I am a solid 5-3 left of where I throw my Primal Rage.  Even in the heavier head and midlane oil this ball finds the friction, revving up before the end of the oil pattern and giving me a more controlled reaction than a typical pearl which might be too jumpy on the backend.  Even with that early hook the backend is still very continuous which allows me to get further left than I normally can with a ball of this hook potential.  If you’re wanting a ball that bites through heavier volumes of oil, without sacrificing any backend angularity, the Cruel Intent is definitely the ball you should get.

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Re: Cruel Intent
« Reply #13 on: December 26, 2013, 01:58:26 PM »
Bowler Stats-Ball Speed 15.5 MPH Rev Rate-App 315 Axis of Rotation-30 to 60 degrees Axis Tilt 9 degrees Right Handed PAP-5 over, 1/4" up

The Motiv Cruel Intent is designed for heavy patterns according to Motiv. The core is asymmetrical wrapped with the same cover, the Fusion Pearl Reactive used on the Primal Rage and the  Tribal.  The ball is as advertised and more for me. It is very clean through the heads and generates a powerful down lane reaction.  More angular then the 2Cruel, but covering as many or  more boards then the 2Cruel. Once the Cruel Intent finds friction the slowdown/change of direction is quick without being a checkmark.  The Cruel Intent then makes a strong move that is less sudden and sharp then the Primal Rage, but a quicker transition then the other balls in the Motive line without the Fusion cover. The Cruel Intent's make a continuous move at the end of the pattern and can cover a lot of boards in heavy volume or longer patterns.  The core/cover combo has allowed me to play up the boards as well as playing very deep.  This combination is very versatile for me.  Getting the ball in the soup (house shot) in the middle of the lane may cause the ball to skate past the breakpoint but there is amble recovery which still allows a move towards the pocket. The Cruel Intent lets me know when to put it away as it will start stand up too early and leave weak corners, like all assym's do, or run out of energy to get back to the pocket and  hit softly.  This coverstock is easily tunable, does not soak up a lot of oil, and like all of the other Motiv covers, does not quickly "track out".
If you use this ball as designed it will be a very effective ball. To throw it on a burnt condition will require a healthy polish and a longer drill pattern.   With the Cruel Intent Motiv has a piece of equipment that acts as a great arsenal builder working in conjunction with the Primal Rage and the Tribal.
I'm very colorblind but really see this ball well with the color combinations Motiv used.  The Neomark Graphic makes the ball very pleasing to the eye, give it good shelf appeal and make it very easy to see the transitions of the ball on the way down the lanes. 

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Re: Cruel Intent
« Reply #14 on: January 04, 2014, 11:25:53 PM »
MOTIV continues its expansion of the proven Fusion Pearl Reactive cover stock as featured on both the #Redball Primal Rage and Tribal. This time around, it finds itself wrapped around the Sinister core of the Cruel line. When I got my hands on the 2Cruel, I had fallen in love with this ball with the down lane reaction and hitting power. With this being said, my excitement could not be put into words when the Cruel Intent was introduced to continue the Cruel line with this new cover stock technology.
I must admit, I went a bit outside of the box with the drilling on this one as I was in need of an earlier roll in my bag that could handle volume. Unfortunately, I do not have exact specs on this drilling, but I can give a description. With a 2.5 Inch PIN, pin placement is slightly off set and below the ring finger; CG is kicked out slightly. The desired reaction is to produce an earlier roll on the lane but given the core and cover stock, energy would still be retained for the backend for maximum hitting power. I must say, with this type of drilling, the ball has become very shot specific as it does crave drier backends to make a powerful turn to the pocket. Unfortunately, if this is not available or the carry down begins to build, the ball tends to fissile out or does not have an opportunity to turn over into the pocket. When the right shot does present itself however, this ball is incredible! The variety of pin action that I have seen with this ball rivals that of the 2Cruel. This ball can go high flush carry to tossing the entire deck full of pins around leading to the same result, an ‘X’ on the scoring monitor. This very point has been proven with at least one 800 series notch being added to my belt as my bowling career continues. With the current drilling, this ball may not be the ‘swing the lane’ type of ball for me, but it can provide me with the down and in shot that has proven more than once to be an ever enduring plan of attack.

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