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Title: Primal Impulse
Post by: admin on December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM
Condition: Medium Oil
Core: Impulse™
Cover: Atomix™ SFP Reactive
Weights: 12# - 16#
Ball Color: Blue / Lime Pearl
NeoMark Color: Hot Pink Pearl / Black
Finish: 2000 Wet Sand / Power Gel® Polish
The new Primal Impulse is the first skid-flip ball from MOTIV. It features new Atomix SFP Reactive coverstock and the new dual-density Impulse core. This is an outstanding piece of equipment! Engineered for medium oil, the ball is very long and clean down the lane with a fast backend transition and incredible drive through the pins. When you want to swing the ball across the lane on a beat-up oil pattern and have it unleash off the dry, the Primal Impulse is the ball you want in your hand. If the bowling industry had “Best Core Design Awards”, we believe MOTIV’s new Impulse™ would be the slam-dunk winner! We’re talking high RG and dual-density on this new high performance core. It provides the 15# ball with a 2.60 RG to get you down the lane with ease and a .050 differential for track flare of 5”+. The dual-density design maximizes the backend reaction through complex physics we won’t get into, but the bottom line is outstanding ball motion.
The look of this ball is crazy too! MOTIV complimented the insane ball performance with a color scheme that demands attention. Hot Pink Pearl and Black NeoMark graphics are integrated with a Blue Pearl and Lime Pearl coverstock. You WILL notice this ball on the lanes and on the shelf in the pro shop. It screams – LOOK AT ME!
Title: Re: Primal Impulse
Post by: badbeard on November 18, 2011, 08:42:14 AM
BALL SPECS
Pin Length: 4.3
Starting Top Weight: 15.4
Ball Weight:15
DRILL PATTERN
Pin to PAP: 45x3.375x40
CG to PAP:
X Hole 2 inches down the val from the center line
BOWLER STYLE
Rev Rate: 180-220
Ball Speed: 18 mph off the hand
PAP/Track: 4 1/2 by 1/1/2 up
SURFACE PREP
Grit: 2000
Type: Matte
LANE CONDITION
Length:
Volume:
Type (THS,
BALL REACTION
Length: long skid
Back End: flip every time
Overall Hook: 11 boards
Midlane Read:
Breakpoint Shape: skid flip
COMMENTS
Likes: The most consistent ball I have ever thrown even when thrown across the middle puddle to get the bucket it turned over. First game 208 had to learn how to release it then 275 and 215 first set 698 22 strikes 1 open. A great addition to my arsanal Great ball from Motiv Get you one !
I am not a Motiv staffer
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PICTURES AND/OR VIDEOS
Title: Re: Primal Impulse
Post by: joshs on November 18, 2011, 01:33:20 PM
What a great addition to the MOTIV line. This is truley a skid/flip ball. I've been able to get some of the other releases to go long and flip on the back with layouts and surfaces, but this ball provides that look without drilling it to do so. The only other ball that gets through the front part of the lane even close to this, in my opinion, is the sigma tour and recon pearl. But the new Primal Impulse will get through the fronts with ease and explode on the back!
If you are in need of a ball that will get you down the lane when other stuff like the Raptor, Cruel, Sigma Tour are checking up too early, this is the ball for you. Of if you are in need of something to get your feet left (if you're right handed) and send it right after the pattern has been bowled on some, and still get the ball to recover...this is the ball for you.
I've punched up 3 of these so far, with different surfaces and layouts. It takes to these changes well and still gives you push through the fronts and a strong recovery on the back. Definitly give this ball a look, because it will fill a hole in your MOTIV lineup with a reaction that hasn't been offered from MOTIV before this.
I will have a video comparision of this awesome release posted shortly.
"Every Strike brings me closer to my next homerun" PBA member Motiv Regional Staff Turbo Regional Staff USBC Bronze Certified Coach Josh Stephens www.motivbowling.com
Title: Re: Primal Impulse
Post by: BobDaBowler on November 22, 2011, 02:08:48 AM
Ball Information
Core: Impulse™
Cover: Atomix™ SFP Reactive
Weights: 12# - 16#
Ball Color: Blue / Lime Pearl
NeoMark Color: Hot Pink Pearl / Black
Ball One Specs:
Surface: OOB 2000 Polished
Layout: 50 X 4" X 40 w/ P3
Ball Two Specs:
Surface: OOB 2000 Polished
Layout: 35 X 5" X 50 w/ P2
Review:
The All NEW Primal Impulse is the first true skid/flip ball produced by Motiv. I recently drilled two Primal Impulses and they did not fail to impress. The Primal Impulse filled that gap in my arsenal between the Sigma Tour and the QZ2 Backdraft. I've thrown the Primal Impulse on a variety of typical house shots ranging from 38-41 feet. It clears the front part of lane with ease and saves all of its energy for a very angular move in the backend. The backend on this ball is incredible!!! This has quickly become my favorite "IN" ball. I am able to play further inside and create lots of angle on the backend without sacrificing pin carry. Comparing my two differently drilled Primal Impulse's. Ball one picks up sooner in the midlane and has a smooth but still angular move on the backend. Ball two gets further down the lane and responds even harder off the dry, making the most angular move I have ever seen from Motiv. This is a must have ball in my opinion The Primal Impulse is set to release on Black Friday November 25, 2011. Order yours TODAY!!!! Get MOTIVated!!!!!
Please be sure to check out my Primal Impulse Ball Reaction Video below!!!!!!!
Here is my video of the new primal impulse. I hope you enjoy it. there are 3 different impulses thrown, along with a primal, sigma tour, and qz2 black/blue
"Every Strike brings me closer to my next homerun" PBA member Motiv Regional Staff Turbo Regional Staff USBC Bronze Certified Coach Josh Stephens www.motivbowling.com
Title: Re: Primal Impulse
Post by: Mappa on November 22, 2011, 02:24:43 PM
If you’re looking for a Skid-Flip ball… this is the one for you. The Primal Impulse goes long with an aggressive breakpoint – even though I drilled mine with a mild layout. (80* x 5 1/2 x 35*). When using this ball on a fresh house shot, It allows me to play a more angular shape to the friction. The dramatic change of direction – along with the eye-catching color scheme of the ball turns heads. “What ball are you throwing!?!”
While it is a fun ball to play on a house shot…
(Here is a video of me rolling a Primal Impulse on a fresh “Main Street” pattern:
…I had the pleasure of using this piece on a broken down Shark pattern at a recent tournament. This is where the ball earns it’s keep. Initially I was tentative about getting the ball to the spot. Once I trusted it and realized that I can aggressively open up my angles, I found that this ball not only gets to the spot and recovers, but it retains energy like no other ball I’ve thrown. Translation: It carries when I need to play the 5th arrow!
--Kevin Gallagher—
PBA Member
MOTIV Staff
Title: Re: Primal Impulse
Post by: Mappa on November 22, 2011, 06:02:00 PM
Sorry everyone... The Youtube didn't like in my previous post about the review for the Primal Impulse.
Title: Re: Primal Impulse
Post by: MOTIVmags on November 24, 2011, 11:38:23 AM
Primal Impulse
I was really looking forward to drilling this ball, knowing I would now have everything I need in my arsenal. This ball demonstrates a reaction that MOTIV has never offered before. Yes, this ball creates a very skid/flip reaction…it will get down the lane…and it will go sideways when it sees friction.
The Primal Impulse is similar in length to the QZ2 Back Draft, but it responds off the friction much, much stronger. The backend is not comparable to anything MOTIV currently offers, this ball can cover every board on the lane if necessary. The Primal Impulse isn’t lane condition specific, but as long as you can find the friction, you will find yourself throwing this new ball from MOTIV.
My first session with the Primal Impulse was on a fresh house pattern with a synthetic surface. If you have a chance to look at my video you will agree, I wouldn’t even need to give another ball a look. For me, this ball is designed to really open up the lane or broken down conditions. The further I moved in and the further I got the ball out, the harder and more violent the ball would come back. I tend struggle when I play in deeper and cover too many boards, but this ball helped me get better entry angle, even with me being more up the back of the ball. I did a very aggressive layout as I create natural length with ball speed, there is a picture of the layout in my video.
The Primal Impulse is a great sidekick along with MOTIV’s benchmark ball, the Sigma Tour. If you are looking for a ball to open the lane up even more than the Sigma Tour, drill yourself a Primal Impulse!
MOTIV Staff Member
Mike Magolan
Title: Re: Primal Impulse
Post by: RAMFlEX on November 24, 2011, 04:00:29 PM
Primal Impulse,
‘Do you crave the Big Bend down the lane?’ If so, the Primal Impulse will be the ball for you. I value this ball so much, it is the new Benchmark ball in my bowling arsenal. The Primal Impulse makes the decision as to what angle I will be playing very simple. This decision is crucial in any game, as the proper angle is the key to carrying corner pins. The Primal Impulse has also opened the lane up for me to strike from deep inside over and over again. The biggest key to this ball is that it never stops on the backend. In my opinion, this is the most release-friendly ball that Motiv has in their lineup. I have never had a ball that I can miss at the bottom and still strike consistently. Another characteristic that sets this ball apart is the new Impulse Core, which makes the ball effective for all types of bowlers. If you are a bowler who appreciates being noticed on the lane, the bright coloring of the ball allows no one to miss it rolling down the lane. The Primal Impulse is perfect for the bowler who likes to have fun Ripping and Flipping the ball down the lane. FYI: Keep extra grips in your bag just in case you wear them down. In fact, I believe Motiv should have a warning sign on the box saying you will need extra grips using the Primal Impulse…. This bowling season, my arsenal will be stacked with many different options thanks to the new Primal Impulse.
Ramon Estrada
Motiv Staff Member.
Ramon Estrada Motiv Staff Member WWW.motivbowling.com
Title: Re: Primal Impulse
Post by: tedpritts on November 26, 2011, 10:18:04 PM
LANE CONDITION
Length: 42 ft
Volume:
Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc): THS
COMMENTS
Likes: MOTIV fans and even our skeptics, get ready for the strongest performing MOTIV Ball yet. The MOTIV PRIMAL IMPULSE is designed for skid/flip and that is exactly what it does. The back end reaction is very strong and amazingly easy to control. This ball with give you all the area you desire and more mistake room that any ball I have ever thrown. I laid mine out pretty simple, the pin is just above the fingers with the CG 1/2 and inch out on the mid line of my span.
MOTIV Staff Member
Ted Pritts
Dallas, Tx
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PICTURES AND/OR VIDEOS
http://youtu.be/NG__mQ9I87s
Title: Re: Primal Impulse
Post by: bowlers design pro shop on November 28, 2011, 01:09:46 PM
BALL SPECS
Pin Length:3-4 inches
Starting Top Weight:3.4
Ball Weight:15.3
DRILL PATTERN
Pin to PAP:4
CG to PAP:4
X Hole (if there is one):none
BOWLER STYLE
Rev Rate:
Ball Speed:15.5
PAP/Track:5 1/4 3/4 up
SURFACE PREP
Grit:2000 Wet Sand
Type: (Matte, Polish, Sanded):polished
LANE CONDITION
Length:
Volume:
Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc):
BALL REACTION
Length:
Back End:sharp
Overall Hook:
Midlane Read:
Breakpoint Shape:Skid / Flip
COMMENTS
Likes:Length and Hit Power
If you have been waiting for a skid/flip ball from Motiv, your dreams have been answered. If you like a ball that goes long on just about every lane condition, and turns left, this is the ball for you. This ball hits the pins like it's mad at them, has enough deflection to stay away from those stone 8's and 9's. Motiv equipment is famous for storing energy, this ball stores it's energy very very well. I have used this ball on fresh, fried and medium length international patterns with great results. For me this ball is not pattern specific, if you feel like using it, DO IT, just float it to the spot and watch it go through the pin deck leaving nothing behind.
Dislikes:
PICTURES AND/OR VIDEOS
David PBA Member Member MOTIV Staff www.motivbowling.com USBC Certified Coach Bowlers Design Pro Shop
Title: Re: Primal Impulse
Post by: dna300x on November 28, 2011, 02:56:25 PM
BALL SPECS
Pin Length: 3.5"
Starting Top Weight: 3.0 oz.
Ball Weight: 16 lbs.
DRILL PATTERN
Pin to PAP: 5 3/4
CG to PAP: 4 3/4
X Hole (if there is one): NONE
In dual angles this layout is 35 x 5.75 x 40
BOWLER STYLE
Rev Rate: 350 rpm
Ball Speed: 18.5-19 mph
PAP/Track: 3 3/8 left, 3/8 up
SURFACE PREP
Grit: 2000 abralon
Type: (Matte, Polish, Sanded): polished
LANE CONDITION
Length: 40 feet, 43 feet
Volume: medium
Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc): THS and Sport
BALL REACTION
Length: 9/10
Back End: 10/10
Overall Hook: 8/10
Midlane Read: 7/10
Breakpoint Shape: strong flip
COMMENTS
Likes: I had the opportunity to test this piece on several typical house shots in my local area. The Primal Impulse was more than capable of matching up to every one. I typically got into the track area between the second and third arrows and played a break point around the fifth board. I could play a more inside out shot than anything else I had in the bag. This is an awesome product for the stand left and throw right crowd (or in my case stand right, throw left) :-) I really like this ball in tandem with the Sigma Tour which is why i drilled my initial one so similar to my favorite Sigma (30 x 5.5 x 40 w/ double thumb extra hole). I also tested this piece on Kegel's Turnpike pattern. While I struggled a bit on the fresh, once the pattern broke down I switched to the Impulse and was able to play deep inside w/ no problem. Normally when I get deep on the pattern I begin to fight the early hook that is associated with the right handers' laydown. The Primal scooted through the early friction with my side roll release, picked up in the right spot, and continued through the pin deck. This will be a great ball/layout for later on in the blocks when the lane is providing all the fritction needed and more.
Dislikes: With any piece that is designed to skid/flip, it will most likely struggle on fresh oil and wet/dry. I took the surface down to 2000 and then tried 4000 with no polish and it did help some, but for me personally there are just better options for these conditions. Depending on the amount of oil, I will either start with the Raptor or Sigma Tour and switch to the Primal Impulse after a few games.
Title: Re: Primal Impulse
Post by: rickzakrajsek on November 29, 2011, 10:33:52 PM
Ball Information Core: Impulse™
Cover: Atomix™ SFP Reactive
Weights: 12# - 16#
Ball Color: Blue / Lime Pearl
NeoMark Color: Hot Pink Pearl / Black
Ball One Specs:
Surface: OOB 2000 Polished
Layout: 70 X 25 X 5
Review:
Can You say SKID-----FLIP--Say it with me S-K-I-D FLIP..
If you dont have this in your MOTIV arsenal your truly missing out..
The All NEW Primal Impulse is the first true skid/flip ball produced by Motiv. This is the ball I've been waiting for providing just the right motion down lane off the friction. The continuation throgh the pins is incredible and I must say its color scheme is certainly an attention getter! This ball will give you the length you need with the LEFT TURN motion (turn signal not included !) desired !!!! From the benchmark Sigma tour and the oil devouring Raptor this ball fits in just the right spot and WILL provide you with the ever desired Skid FLip motion complementing your already AWESOME Arsenal...
Once again as always dont just take my word for it..Look for a MOTIV Demo Days in your area and Try it for yourself!
Title: Re: Primal Impulse
Post by: DavidSchroeder on November 30, 2011, 08:55:05 PM
MOTIV Primal Impulse Review
MOTIV’s newest release is the Primal Impulse with a brand new core design wrapped in a smooth but aggressive shell. This is the first skid/flip ball produced in the MOTIV line and it delivers! I drilled two of these bad boys up and have been impressed from the start. The first ball I drilled 35x55x4.75 placing the pin above my ring finger and kicking the cg right of the mid line with nearly 7/8 oz side weight. This ball when thrown on the Kegel Winding Road sport pattern was smooth through the midlane and aggressive off the break point. The first few shots the ball dove through the nose while trying to play 10 to 7. I moved left and played 17 to 8 and the ball crushed the pocket. The angularity off the break point was controlled due to the layout, but it didn’t limit the aggression the ball generates. As the lane started to transition, I simply chased the pattern left and found I had more area right. The one similarity between this layout and the other I’ll describe soon, is that there is little room for error left of target while bowling on this particular pattern and it holds true on house patterns as well.
The second Primal Impulse I drilled I used a 50x60x3.87 w/P2 hole. This layout placed the pin below my ring finger causing the ball to get into the roll sooner and ultimately making the move off the break point more aggressive. On the same Kegel pattern I mentioned earlier, I had to move 4 boards left playing 21 to 10 with this ball because of the aggressive nature of the layout. I still had miss area right as I mentioned before, but if I missed left the ball didn’t hold pocket well.
Overall my review of the new MOTIV Primal Impulse is Excellent! This has replaced my other equipment as the benchmark ball every time I lace up my shoes. This ball is everything you would come to expect from MOTIV with the smooth roll through the midlane while maintaining a strong drive through the pins off the break point. This is a must have for any MOTIV enthusiast or bowler…period!
Specifics:
Lane Condition for Review: Kegel Winding Road
Rev Rate: 320-340
Ball Speed: 15.8 - 16.1
Hand: Right
Lane Surface: Brunswick Pro Lane
Additional info: both balls tested were done at OOB surface
David Schroeder “Superman”
MOTIV Staff
Turbo Regional Staff
PBA Member
Title: Re: Primal Impulse
Post by: Motiv Girl on December 02, 2011, 01:21:27 PM
The Primal Impulse is the first true "skid flip" ball from MOTIV. This ball is a welcome sight for me and others.I have been waiting for a ball I could use to open up the lane when the fronts became spotty and push started building up at the backends.
The Primal Impulse glides through the heads and the midlanes,.but when it hits the back ends this ball really turns hard.The energy retention that is saved is by the Primal Impulse is amazing.This ball had no problem on heavy carrydown.
The motion of the Primal Impulse let me move deeper than usual and send it wider than usual and still watch is recover.There seems to be no place on the lanes that it couldn't recover from.
On a fresh shot the Primal Impulse held it own without any problem.When this ball got down lane ,nothing was going to stop it from turning left . On medium patterns the Primal never read the midlane too early or did it display any hook out.
This ball gave me another look that I have been waiting for.This dynamic skid/flip motion is a must for any bowler wanting to open up the lane.This ball creates crazy launch angles.
Title: Re: Primal Impulse
Post by: Onefrombills on December 16, 2011, 01:46:34 AM
LANE CONDITION
Length: 38 Feet
Volume: Med
Type THS
COMMENTS
Condition: Medium Oil Core: Impulse™ Cover: Atomix™ SFP Reactive Weights: 12# - 16# Ball Color: Blue / Lime Pearl NeoMark Color: Hot Pink Pearl / Black Finish: 2000 Wet Sand / Power Gel® Polish
This ball is truly unlike any ball I have thrown before......Prior to this release I had the pleasure to drill up the Raptor than the Sigma Tour and theses ball truly love oil patterns, BUT when the heads start to burn up this is the money ball. This ball is VERY clean in the front part of the lane and still holds it's energy for the back part of the lanes. On a THS aka True House Shot this is a great benchmark ball on lower oil shots or after your benchmark ball becomes too much this is the best replacement. This ball will be a true value and needs to be in your bag!
In Best Regards,
Brian Hirsch Motiv Recon Staff
www.Motivbowling.com www.Turbogrips.com
Edited on 12/16/2011 at 0:51 AM
Title: Re: Primal Impulse
Post by: mick31 on December 18, 2011, 09:45:51 AM
LANE CONDITION
Length: 41' wood
Volume: 20mL
Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc): THS & Sport Patterns
COMMENTS
My specs, avg. ball speed & rev rate . . old school tweener. PAP = 5 x 1/2 up. Ball specs have been posted so I will go right into my review. This is Motiv's first true skid/flip ball. I drilled my initial one w/80x50x3.75 w/P2.5 hole. This put the ring finger through the pin, kicking the CG out. Left it at OOB finish then later hit it slightly w/used 3000 pad. I love the reaction I get w/this ball on the THS & 40' or less sport patterns !! Due to the Atomix SFP coverstock the ball gives you easy length through the heads and an excellent read off the back part of the mid-lane. Due to the wild color configuration on this orb, I can read what the core is doing throughout it's journey down the lane. This layout on these lane conditions, the ball really does flip! There were times when I swear there was something on the lane that the ball hit and made it jump left, but no, it was all ball! This ball was instrumental in helping me win out local Masters tourney.
I was able to obtain a second Primal Impulse w/5.2" pin/cg. I like long pins because I have a 5" span so those pin/cg's provide me w/more drilling options. Drilled this one at 45x35x5.25 w/P2 hole. This ball surprised me in that it naturally goes longer but was smoother off the spot. Sort of expected a big flip but pleased to see how hard it did turn but w/alot of control. I can move right w/this one and play the oil line longer than w/my first one. Gives me a real nice 1 - 2 punch when attacking a lane condition. Going to eventually take the coverstock down on this one to 1500 and see what I get.
Motiv has put out some great balls in the past that have been strong arching types so this "flippster" is a very welcome addition to the line. You would be remiss not to take a good look at this bad boy . . and everyone under 40 loves the color combo's used. Best of luck to all and get MOTIV-ated !!
Bob "Mick" Michalojko Colonial Lanes Pro Shop PBA Member Motiv Staff Member
Title: Re: Primal Impulse
Post by: xman879 on December 19, 2011, 03:14:33 PM
A Must Have In Your Bag !!!!!!!!!!
The new MOTIV Primal Impulse is the 1st skip/flip from the company’s product line and boy does it FLIPPPPPPPPPP. The bright Lime Pearl and Blue color combination looks awesome with the Hot Pink and Black NeoMark Logo. You will not have a problem finding your ball on the rack. The 2000 OOB finish helps the ball almost float through the heads with ease as it stores its hitting power for the check mark move its about to make further down the lane. The Atomix SFP reactive cover stock combined with the new dual-density Impulse core is a match made in heaven. I have not experienced a ball that revs off my hand so fast (2.60 RG with a .050 differential) and maintain a track 5” track flare (medium oil) as it makes a hard turn to the pocket off my breakpoint. The dynamics of the ball motion is something you will have to roll to believe. My new Primal Impulse, Sigma Tour and QZ1 (Red) balls have the versatility to cover almost any shot that a bowling proprietor put down.
Stay tuned for the next MOTIV ball set to release in January 2012.
Title: Re: Primal Impulse
Post by: GRMotivMan on December 19, 2011, 08:17:22 PM
LANE CONDITION
Length: 40ft
Volume: Medium
Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc): Typical House Shot
COMMENTS
Likes: The new Motiv Primal Impulse is Motiv's first skid-flip ball. I've not been a big fan of skid-flip equipment in the past but this ball is awesome. There is something different about this ball and you can tell the minute the ball hits the pins. I don't think I've thrown a ball that hits the pins harder than this ball does. The ball delivers excellent length down lane and incredible recovery with pin punishing power through the pins. I am so very impressed with this latest edition to the Motiv line up. You would never believe I throw 14 pound equipment by watching what this ball does to the pins.
Ball Layout: 40x45x4
Dislikes:
PICTURES AND/OR VIDEOS
Tony Buck
Motiv Staff Member
Title: Re: Primal Impulse
Post by: MotivMike on December 21, 2011, 09:47:59 PM
The Bowler:
Left handed
Ball speed = 17
Rev Rate = 400
PAP = 5 ¾, 3/8 up
With eye catching style the Primal Impulse transitions smooth in the late mid lane with a much higher entry angle then the original Primal. The Primal Impulse is cleaner in the heads and saves the energy for down lane. I’ve been able to use this ball on almost every lane condition from the PBA Cheetah pattern to house shots even on the shark pattern with surface adjustments and hand release changes. A ball that versatile is hard to come buy. I’ve also fund the ball to be rather release friendly especially on house shots. Crankers, tweeners, and strokers will like the easy length in the heads, with a smooth strong anguler motion on the backend. This ball doesn’t lack the ability to roll over and go into a hard roll in the backend. That’s what I loved about the original primal but often it didn’t go long enough down the lane. Having that kind of entry angle is one major key to this ball having such great pin carry from different angles.
Title: Re: Primal Impulse
Post by: markdet on December 22, 2011, 02:25:42 AM
LANE CONDITION
Length:41 feet
Volume:
Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc):THS
COMMENTS
Likes:Hello everyone this is the ball to have in the bag. When the lanes break down and you need a ball that gets threw the heads, mid lane and still hits like a truck here it is. This is truly a skid/flip ball. Truly this ball is great on all conditions yes even fresh and the color scheme is sweet. I've been throwing it on fresh lately and it stores up energy for an angular move on the back end I've had no problem throwing it all three games. I use to worry about losing pin carry moving deep inside when the lanes broke down and with the Primal Impulse my worries are all gone this ball does the job. Thanks Motiv
Mark Detwiler
Motiv Staff
San Antonio TX
www.motivbowling.com
Title: Re: Primal Impulse
Post by: MOTIVatedMustang on December 22, 2011, 04:18:59 PM
BALL SPECS
Pin Length: 2.5
Starting Top Weight: 3.14
Ball Weight: 15
DRILL PATTERN
Pin to PAP: 4.5
CG to PAP: 3.5
X Hole (if there is one): None
BOWLER STYLE
Rev Rate: Medium
Ball Speed: 16+
PAP/Track:
SURFACE PREP
Grit: 2000 Abralon with light pressure
Type: (Matte, Polish, Sanded): Matte
LANE CONDITION
Length: 38'
Volume: Medium
Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc): THS
BALL REACTION
Length: Really Clean through the front
Back End: Strong and continuous
Overall Hook: Strong
Midlane Read: Good
COMMENTS
Likes: Easy through the front and recovers without effort. Great go to ball when you want to get in the middle and not worry about getting around the corner. Hitting power is scary strong. Keeps the pins low and moving fast. This will fit my arsonal as the ball to use when the fronts are a little burned and I need back end recovery and continuation.
Tony Thayer
MOTIV Staffer
Dallas TX
Dislikes: I only have one right now
Edited on 12/22/2011 at 3:23 PM
Edited on 12/22/2011 at 3:27 PM
Title: Re: Primal Impulse
Post by: toverbey on December 23, 2011, 10:32:52 AM
LANE CONDITION
Length: 40 ft.
Volume: Medium
Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc): THS
COMMENTS
Motiv’s first shot at a ball that gives a true skid-flip reaction does not miss its mark. The 2000-grit finish with the Power Gel Polish, combined with a 2.60 RG core, allows the ball to easily clear the heads and save its energy for the backend transition. As the ball approaches the breakpoint it begins to rev up quickly allowing it to move sharply off of the spot, something the .050 Diff helps to facilitate. The Primal Impulse has been a very good medium oil and broken-down oil ball for me. Once my Sigma Tour begins to hook a little too soon I switch to this, make a small adjustment right and continue to crush the pocket. The ball effortlessly glides through the heads and is very strong in its backend reaction. Once it hits the pins it continues through the deck with great power; I have already left more 9-pins because of it driving through to the pit than I have with the rest of my arsenal combined. Even when I have missed to the right the ball still has enough energy to turn on its left-turn signal and make it back to the pocket. If you’re looking for angularity and continuation power, not to mention the snazzy color scheme, the Primal Impulse is the ball for you.
PICTURES AND/OR VIDEOS
Trent Overbey
In the Zone Pro Shop
MOTIV Staff
Title: Re: Primal Impulse
Post by: revmaster01 on January 09, 2012, 02:44:17 AM
Boy,the slogan says it all with this ball,GRIP IT AND FLIP IT!
I drilled my Primal Impulse 70 x 5" x 35 and boy is this ball clean! Out of box this ball was EXTREMELY lengthy and angular,perfect ball for league patterns. I then decided to play with the surface and boy did I find that when I broke the shell with a light 2k that this ball became an absolute monster,I love the motion I get with this ball at 2k,even without the shine the ball is insanely clean and still pops off the pattern.
I'd recommend this ball to anyone looking for a ball to open up their angles and get left and let it wheel!
Title: Re: Primal Impulse
Post by: hfkwill on January 09, 2012, 12:57:37 PM
The Primal Impulse by MOTIV Bowling is by far the most angular piece Motiv has ever produced. The new Impulse core is wrapped around the ATOMIX SFP (Skid Flip Pearl) shell. The dual density Impulse core gives the Primal Impulse an RG of 2.60 and a differential of .050 in 15 pounds. I chose to drill my Primal Impulse 50 x 5 x 40, leaving it at the box surface it shows me alot of nice backend.
Coming out of the box at 2000 and Power Gel Polish the Primal Impulse gives the bowler a skid flip reaction. On a house shot, or tournament patterns when the lanes go through transition the Primal Impulse shows its length and strength down the lane. However with surface changes the ball can match up better on flatter patterns.
In comparision to the previous release the Sigma Tour, the Primal Impulse is the perfect ball down from it. You are able to play the same part of the lane, without worry of the ball not getting through the front part of the lane. In comparision to other "dry" lane balls from MOTIV the QZ2 Blue/Black and Recon Silver RX-1, the Primal Impulse will read the lane earlier and have much more backend.
There are many angular bowling balls on the market but the Primal Impulse stands out not only due to the colors, but the continuation the ball has through the pins due to that dual density of the Impulse core. If you are bowling a second shift league, or having trouble when the lanes begin to transition or break down the Primal Impulse is what you are looking for!
Here is a link to my Primal Impulse in action:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0n7scY6iQsQ
William Welch
MOTIV Staff Member
10 Back Pro Shops, Manager
Fort Lauderdale, FL
Title: Re: Primal Impulse
Post by: twanked on January 25, 2012, 12:21:26 PM
LANE CONDITION
THS
COMMENTS
Likes:The Motiv Primal Impulse is the perfect ball for the bowler that likes to see the skid flip reaction..Or if you are a bowler that likes to play straight (like myself) and the friction outside forces you to migrate in but when you move in you dont have a ball that will store up all of the energy till it gets downlane to that spot and then makes that strong flip to the pocket!!Something Like no other MOTIV ball in the line... once the first ball out of the bag starts hooking too early or starts to putter out at the end when you move...THIS IS THE BALL TO GO TO!!I posted a small video of this ball bellow, check it out and check out motivbowling.com! Dustin Baker"DB" Motiv Regional staff
Title: Re: Primal Impulse
Post by: Kegeler51 on January 25, 2012, 04:25:56 PM
LANE CONDITION
Length: 40
Volume: 24ml
Type :THS
COMMENTS
Motiv Primal Impulse
I wasn't sure what to expect from this ball at first. I really like the Sigma Tour and the Primal Impulse with it's new high RG core and pearl version of the Atomix Cover found on the Sigma Tour. Since I like the Sigma Tour I put very similar drillings (60x4.75x60) low pin and (45x5.25x45) high pin on the Primal Impulse to see what the new core and cover would do. What I found is a ball that glides through the front part of the lane without the squirt in oil that you get from most pearl balls. The path down the lane between the Sigma Tour and the Primal are close with the Primal getting a little more length and a little more entry angle into the pocket. Overall hook between the two is also very close. What impressed me was the carry that the PI gave me on the medium house shot that is was bowling on. Shots that I thought were going to leave me a 10 pin to shoot at just seem snap them out.
I can see using the Primal Impulse on most medium patterns or later in the set when your oiler won't make the corner and starts leaving flat 10's.
Title: Re: Primal Impulse
Post by: Myost on January 27, 2012, 04:44:44 PM
BALL SPECS
Pin Length: 3.5
Starting Top Weight: 2.2
Ball Weight: 15.4
DRILL PATTERN
Dual Angle: 55x4.75x45
BOWLER STYLE
Rev Rate: 320
Ball Speed: 17mph
PAP/Track: 4 7/8 & 1 1/4 up
SURFACE PREP
Grit: 2000
Type: (Matte, Polish, Sanded): Polished
LANE CONDITION
Length: 41'
Volume: Medium-Heavy
Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc): THS
BALL REACTION
(1 to 10 Scale) 10 highest/most Length: 8
Back End: 8
Overall Hook: 7
Midlane Read: 5
Breakpoint Shape: 7
COMMENTS
Likes: Very good matchup for THS condition. Ball has very good length and does a great job of not overreacting when hitting friction. I found with this ball I can stay out in the friction longer without having to jump inside due to the fact that this ball gives you a strong PREDICTABLE backend motion and will not hook early as the heads and midlane start to dry out. This is probably one of the most forgiving balls I have thrown throughout a set on a THS house shot in that I don't get penalized with splits when I am behind on the adjustments needed as the lanes breakdown. I would definately recommend this ball for your THS.
Dislikes: None
Mike Yost
MOTIV Staff
Edited on 1/27/2012 at 4:54 PM
Edited on 1/27/2012 at 4:56 PM
Title: Re: Primal Impulse
Post by: Bronson on February 24, 2012, 12:23:06 PM
The Motiv Primal Impulse is an awesome ball. I have raised my average 10 pins since using this ball. It has given me a clean reaction through the heads with excellent backend reaction especially on wood lanes where the heads break down a little quicker. The balls makes the turn at the breakpoint and just continues through the pins. I am finding myself shooting less corner pins than ever. I have used this ball on various conditions from a medium oil pattern at 33 foot and a heavy oil pattern at 45 foot and on both wood and synthetic surfaces.
I am right handed and throw the ball at 17mph. The ball is drilled 50x35x4 3/8 with a P2 hole and was left at the factory finish of 2000. I use the Motiv Power Gel Scuff to keep the ball clean and ready to react at all times. If you want a ball with a skid flip reaction then this is a great choice. Thank you Motiv for another excellent ball to add to my arsenal and the additional 10 pins to my average.
Title: Re: Primal Impulse
Post by: Joe Somd on February 28, 2012, 03:45:53 PM
BALL SPECS
Pin Length: 2-3
Starting Top Weight: 3.14
Ball Weight: 16
DRILL PATTERN
Pin under ring and cg at 5pm
BOWLER STYLE
Rev Rate: 425
Ball Speed: 17
PAP/Track: 5 1/4 over 1/4 up
SURFACE PREP
Grit: Box Polished
Type: (Matte, Polish, Sanded):
LANE CONDITION
Length: 41
Volume: Medium / High
Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc -- THS with a little more oil in the middle
BALL REACTION
Length: 3/4 of the way down
Back End: Very Strong
Midlane Read: Effortless
Breakpoint Shape: Skid Flip
COMMENTS
Likes: This ball is awesome! Another great addition to the Motiv family. It gets through the fronts and has plenty of pop on the backend. You can play pretty striaght with it on fresh or move and open the lane up as they transition with out losing energy or pin carry. It is a little weaker than the Sigma Tour which is the "Benchmark Ball" and usually the one I start with, so when the lane tends to transition and you need something to get through the spot but still retain some energy to continue through the pins - this ball is a must have in your bag. Not only does the ball react and roll great, but the color looks fantastic too!
Dislikes: NONE
PICTURES AND/OR VIDEOS
Reaction depends on putting the right ball in your hand at the right time!
Arsenal:
Storm Marvel
Motiv Primal Impulse
Motiv Sigma Tour
Motiv QZ2 Backdraft
Storm Gravity Shift
AMF Shredder
Edited on 2/28/2012 at 2:52 PM
Title: Re: Primal Impulse
Post by: titletowncards on March 22, 2012, 06:37:51 PM
BALL SPECS
Pin Length: 3.5"
Starting Top Weight: 3lb. 2oz.
Ball Weight: 15lbs.
DRILL PATTERN
60x35@5"
X Hole drilled at angle
BOWLER STYLE
Rev Rate: 300-325
Ball Speed: 15-15.25mph
PAP/Track: 5 7/16" over 3/4 up
SURFACE PREP
Grit: 3000 Saair
Type: (Matte, Polish, Sanded): Polished with Motiv Power Gel
BALL REACTION
Length: Good length
Back End: Flippy backend
Breakpoint Shape: Angular
COMMENTS
I got this ball because I wanted a ball that would get down the lane and have a sharper type backend reaction, it does do that, but I have had a hard time trying to control that breakpoint. Sometimes it skids too far, sometimes it breaks early. It is a great hitting ball like most Motiv stuff, but this ball may become more of a special condition ball rather than one I can use on my normal THS at the two houses I bowl at. I've tried a few different surfaces, polished and not and seemed to have settled with 3000 + Power Gel Polish. When it does get to the pocket I have great carry potential. I can't complain about the ball because it does as advertised and maybe my game isn't the best matchup for it, but I am going to keep it because I believe there's a condition out there where it's really going to shine. The colors are A-MA-ZING, I get so many people that compliment the ball color combination.
Chris Orgeman
Maude Lebowski: What do you do for recreation?
The Dude: Oh, the usual. I bowl. Drive around. The occasional acid flashback.
Title: Re: Primal Impulse
Post by: dugbark on April 11, 2012, 12:08:05 AM
Bowler Stats-Ball Speed 17 MPH Rev Rate-App 275 Axis of Rotation-30 to 60 degrees Axis Tilt 22 degrees Right Handed
The Motive Primal Impluse is designed for medium patterns for those who like the skid/flip reaction. The core is a new design for Motiv and it works as advertised. It pushes through the heads with ease even on semi-burnt heads, and waits to rev up on the back end. The move to the pocket is very angular, and for someone with a higher rev rate than me, the angularity would be even sharper. The change in direction is very sudden. As soon as the ball hits friction, it noticeably slows down and changes direction. The Impluse allows everyone to play very deep and wide angles, which is a completely different look then Motiv has ever presented.
I have successfully used the Impulse playing the track area when the shot was fresh, and as well as in tournament play when the heads have started to go. As long as there is sufficient oil in the heads, which is less then most balls require, the ball will get down the lane and turn the corner. It is a strong addition to tougher condition arsenals. I look forward to throwing it at Nationals this year.
The Impluse, as with all of the recent Motiv releases, does not seem to have a surface preference as it reacted well on all bowling surfaces on which I have used it. The surface of the Thrash takes and holds changes to surface of the ball very well. The ball also holds up very well to repeated use. I had to play with the cover a little to get it to match up to my game, but once I got it matched up, it was a great piece of equipment. Other bowlers have expressed the same experience to me.
If you use this ball as designed on medium oil patterns, it is a very effective ball. It will skate if the oil is too far down lane.
The Impluse gives Motiv a piece of equipment for Motiv believers who wanted a skid/flip ball. I'm very colorblind but I've heard from multiple bowlers that the colors are very interesting.