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Title: Raptor P7 Solid
Post by: admin on December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM
High Performance
- COLOR:  Black/Purple
- INNER CORE: Predator
- COVERSTOCK: Formula-7 Reactive  
- FINISH: 4000 Wet Sand
- FLARE: 7"+
- RG: 16#-2.46 15#-2.46  14#-2.48 13#-2.52 12#-2.59
- RG DIFFERENTIAL: 16#-.060 15#- .060 14#-.060  13#-.051 12#.037
- RECOMMENDED LANE CONDITION: Heavy Oil
- A few tiny  pit holes in the cover stock of the ball are normal
- DESCRIPTION: The  Raptor P7 certainly soars beyond expectation. It is an amazing high performance  ball featuring the new Predator asymmetric core and new Formula-7 Reactive  coverstock. The reaction produced is astounding. It is long, very strong, and  has incredible continuation. Get MOTIVated!
Title: Re: Raptor P7 Solid
Post by: dna300x on July 05, 2011, 07:04:36 PM
BALL SPECS


Pin Length: 4.0"
 

Starting Top Weight: 3.5 oz.


Ball Weight: 16 lbs.


 


DRILL PATTERN


Pin to PAP: 5"


MB to PAP: 4.5"


X Hole (if there is one): none
 

drilling in dual angle is a 60 x 5 x 40.

 





BOWLER STYLE


Rev Rate: 350 rpm


Ball Speed:18-18.5

 

PAP/Track: 3 3/8 left, 5/8 up


 




SURFACE PREP


Grit: 1000


Type: (Matte, Polish, Sanded): Abralon

 




LANE CONDITION


Length: 40, 41, and 35

 

Volume: varied


Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc): THS, Kegel Boardwalk, and Kegel Highway to Hell


 



BALL REACTION


Length: cleaner through the front than previous high end releases


Back End: most CONTINUATION and skid/snap look of any high performance product

 

Overall Hook: most overall hook in Motiv product offerings this season


Midlane Read: touch later than the Cruel series, but still reads very strong


Breakpoint Shape: more of a skid/snap appearance. Probably the cleanest high performance ball on the market today.


 



COMMENTS


Likes: This piece is a welcome addition to the line up. Believe the hype and ignore the pessimists. This ball is going to turn heads and give Motiv the positive attention that the company deserves. It is a completely different reaction on the lanes than any high end ball I've thrown b/c it hooks a lot, yet retains energy for further down the lane where it is needed most. It's one thing to make a ball that will chew through oil and read the lane early. What seperates this piece from other high end offerings is that it saves a lot of energy for the end of the pattern and drives through the pins very hard. I'm really looking forward to throwing this on the heavier/longer shots I'll encounter and see it as a tremendous asset in my bag since my ball speed is higher than my rev rate.
 
Dislikes: At 4000 I actually felt the ball was too angular down lane and wasn't allowing me to close down my angles and play straighter. It seemed like I was sliding right of 30 on everything which is at times desirable, but not always. That being said I took the ball to 1000 with an Abralon pad and VIOLA! I could roll the ball at my more natural speed and the breakpoint became much more predictable and manageable. This is one of those long and strong balls out of the box. so I may drill another one with a slightly stronger drilling, but leave the surface at 4000.


 

PICTURES AND/OR VIDEOS
 


 

Darren Andretta
Motiv/Vise Inserts Regional Staff
www.motivbowling.com
Get MOTIVated!
 
Edited on 7/24/2011 at 6:29 PM
Title: Re: Raptor P7 Solid
Post by: joshs on July 07, 2011, 09:56:22 PM
COMMENTS








Likes: This ball is stupid strong!  If you are looking for a heavy oil ball with great backend continuation, then this is most definitly the ball for you!


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"Every Strike brings me closer to my next homerun"
PBA member
Motiv Regional Staff
Turbo Regional Staff
USBC Bronze Certified Coach
Josh Stephens
www.motivbowling.com
 
Edited on 7/24/2011 at 6:31 PM
Title: Re: Raptor P7 Solid
Post by: Kegeler51 on July 12, 2011, 08:34:55 AM
LANE CONDITION

Length: 41
Volume: 24mL
Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc): THS
 
Bowler Spec's
 
Rev            300
Ball speed   16
Rotation      50
Tilt              17

COMMENTS
 
The Raptor has the new predator core and formula 7 cover. This is the  strongest release to date from Motiv. During testing and the ball cleared the front part with ease and made a  strong down lane move. The Raptor is Motiv's first ball that has this quick of a response to the friction. Compared to my TR2 @2000 it gets a little more  length and more hook at the end of the pattern. The Cruel LE was  a little earlier and smoother off the spot than the Raptor P7. Where the Raptor was hitting flush the TR2 and Cruel LE were just getting back to the head pin. The Raptor comes at 4000 wet sand and will handle med heavy to heavy oil. This will most likely be the first ball out of my bag on the heavier patterns.

Likes: Nice aggressive move down lane. Continuation thru the pins.

Dislikes: None

 
PICTURES AND/OR VIDEOS
 
 
 
 
http://www.motivbowling.com/
 
 
Edited on 7/14/2011 at 7:59 PM
 
Edited on 7/24/2011 at 6:32 PM
Title: Re: Raptor P7 Solid
Post by: tedpritts on July 12, 2011, 04:19:27 PM
LANE CONDITION

Length:40 ft
 
Volume:

Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc): Typical House Shot

 
COMMENTS

Likes: The length of this ball is amazing. I say that because this in one of the most aggressive balls     I   have ever thrown. For the size of the weight block the amount of energy this balls stores is very impressive. It destroys the pins. I am a very high rev rate player and have never been able to throw this type of ball consistently, not anymore, the MOTIV Raptor P7 allows me to play the part of the lane in heavy oil that I like to play. I recommend the Raptor P7 to anyone. My layout is the pin above the ring finger, CG 1/2 inch to the right of the center of my span and the Mass Bios 3/4 of an inch to he right of my thumb. PAP is 5 inches and 1/4 up form the center of my span to the right. If you are looking for a ball that gives you that couple of extra boards or continuation through that heavy oil pattern, look no further!!!! The MOTIV Raptor P7 is the choice for you......

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PICTURES AND/OR VIDEOS
 
 
 

 
Edited on 7/24/2011 at 6:32 PM
Title: Re: Raptor P7 Solid
Post by: xman879 on July 20, 2011, 02:58:41 PM
 




The MOTIV Raptor P7 is a BEAST!!!!!!!



This new ball has the new predator core and formula 7 coverstock. This ball is Heavy-Duty on the heavier oil patterns. The smooth coverstock allows the ball to float through the heads and store its energy until it smacks the pins with the angular movement on the backend. I am a medium rev rate player and I drilled my Raptor on the negative side (5½”) away from my PAP because it is just that much ball. This is my favorite lay-out and I already have heads turning on the lanes wondering what I am throwing. The first time I bowled with the ball (OOB surface) in a Hoinke Classic qualifier, I bowled a 4 game total of 1017(258,246,268,245) to win it all. See you in Cincinnati, OH this season……



If you’re looking for that one ball this season that can finally cut through the grease without burning up all its energy in the front/mid part of the lanes…Look no further and give this MOTIV Raptor a try.      

Cory "The X Man"
MOTIV Staff Member  
USBC Certified Coach




www.motivbowling.com
 
Edited on 7/20/2011 at 1:00 PM
 
Edited on 7/24/2011 at 6:30 PM
Title: Re: Raptor P7 Solid
Post by: Mappa on July 24, 2011, 02:22:30 AM
Let me say flat out… the MOTIV Raptor is the strongest ball that I have ever thrown. This ball just loves the oil… but I’ve also used this monster on a medium house pattern, and was delightfully surprised. I am able to play at least an arrow left of where I normally play, yet the ball is still controllable. When I use my Raptor, people take notice. It definitely has that “awe” factor… or should I say “oohs and aahs!” 



I punched up my Raptor using one of the conservative layouts (Pin 5” to PAP, Pin 5 1/2” to MB). I’m sure those adventurous types can get even more hook by using a stronger layout. The differential on this monster’s asymmetrical core is maxed out! (0.60)




The Raptor is an even arcing, heavy rolling ball that drives though the deck like no other. I’m looking forward to pulling this piece out the next time I venture on the Scorpion or Shark. I am sure the controllable power this ball demonstrates will be ideal on long, heavy sport patterns.




Here is a video showing my ball reaction… enjoy J




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyXpY03KbCI




 --Kevin Gallagher - PBA Member - MOTIV Staff Member

 
Edited on 7/24/2011 at 6:33 PM
Title: Re: Raptor P7 Solid
Post by: bowlers design pro shop on July 25, 2011, 12:27:28 PM
LANE CONDITION






Length: THS 40ft and PBA 2009/2010 Viper 37ft

 

Volume:


Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc):


 



COMMENTS





Likes: When Motiv said this would be the longest/strongest ball in their line up to date, they were not kidding. The jumped in to the high end market with both feet. If you are throwing any other companies high end equipment you MUST drill one of these, this ball exceeds all the hype that surrounded the realease, you will be happy you made the decision.  I drilled my first Raptor 60X3X35 with a P3 weight hole, this layout gave me exactly what I was looking for, long and smooth off the friction. I like balls that arch, so this layout was an easy choice. On our THS we use the USBC White pattern which has a ton of friction outside 6, as long as I played the oil line and watched the breakpoint, I was fine, this ball did not burn up. I started with this ball in a PBA Regional on Viper, this Viper is harder and flatter than the earlier patterns. I was throwing it straight up the 3 board and had a good look through the 4th game. I had to sadly put his ball in the bag and shell down and move in. Like all MOTIV equipment this ball hits hard and goes through the pin deck with strength and power left over.
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PICTURES AND/OR VIDEOS

 

 

 


David
PBA Member
Member MOTIV Staff www.motivbowling.com
USBC Certified Coach
Bowlers Design Pro Shop
Title: Re: Raptor P7 Solid
Post by: bowlers design pro shop on July 25, 2011, 12:27:49 PM
LANE CONDITION






Length: THS 40ft and PBA 2009/2010 Viper 37ft

 

Volume:


Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc):


 



COMMENTS





Likes: When Motiv said this would be the longest/strongest ball in their line up to date, they were not kidding. The jumped in to the high end market with both feet. If you are throwing any other companies high end equipment you MUST drill one of these, this ball exceeds all the hype that surrounded the realease, you will be happy you made the decision.  I drilled my first Raptor 60X3X35 with a P3 weight hole, this layout gave me exactly what I was looking for, long and smooth off the friction. I like balls that arch, so this layout was an easy choice. On our THS we use the USBC White pattern which has a ton of friction outside 6, as long as I played the oil line and watched the breakpoint, I was fine, this ball did not burn up. I started with this ball in a PBA Regional on Viper, this Viper is harder and flatter than the earlier patterns. I was throwing it straight up the 3 board and had a good look through the 4th game. I had to sadly put his ball in the bag and shell down and move in. Like all MOTIV equipment this ball hits hard and goes through the pin deck with strength and power left over.
 

 



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PICTURES AND/OR VIDEOS

 

 

 


David
PBA Member
Member MOTIV Staff www.motivbowling.com
USBC Certified Coach
Bowlers Design Pro Shop
Title: Re: Raptor P7 Solid
Post by: Motiv Girl on August 01, 2011, 11:49:51 AM
LANE CONDITION

Length:
 
Volume:

Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc):

 
COMMENTS

Likes:

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PICTURES AND/OR VIDEOS
 
 MOTIV:Raptor P7

     

My Information:Right handed

Ball speed-15 mph average,Rev rate-280 average

Axis rotation-45 degrees,Axis tilt-15 degrees

     

Ball specs:

     

Weight-15lbs 2oz.,pin-4 3/4",Top weight-3.0 oz.

Surface prep of ball-4000 wet sand with 2 steps of MOTIV

Power Gel Polish

Drill pattern used-55x45@4 1/2",P2 hole,1 1/2" deep,with 1' bi

     

Type of lane surface Pro Anvilane 3 years old

     

Raptor P7 Information-

     

Core-Predator,Asymmetric

Coverstock-Formula 7 Reactive/solid

Ball Surface-4000 wet sand

Color-Purple/Black with with green and white logos

15 lb.ball -RG-2.46,Diff-.060,Int.Diff-.015,

     

Manufacturer Intent-Heavy oil

     

 This new MOTIV release is intended for heavy oil,and it doesn't disappoint.

The new core and coverstock combo gives MOTIV  a new look on

the lanes not yet seen in a MOTIV ball.

     

  The Raptor P7 will help bowlers  who may be a little rev challenged.The

strong  and quick reaction to the dry at the end of the pattern is perfect

for this type of style.Crankers will also love the look of this ball on heavy oil

when they need to be left of the tweeners and strokers.

     

  The Raptor P7 clears the heads easier than you would think from a ball

this strong.It stores the energy for midlane and the backend.This is where

the ball starts to shine.The amount of friction in the mids doesn't take
 anything away from the backend reaction.The strength at the breakpoint

is very heavy and continuous almost skid flip.A ball with this much

backend is rare.The recovery on the backends is the Raptors greatest

strength.Even as the oil carried down to the back of the pattern,the Raptor

just keep motoring toward the pocket.There was never any quit.

Going around the pattern is a lot easier when you are confident

that the ball you are using is going to make it around the corner,and not

quit on you.The ball continuation through the pocket is outstanding,and the

pin carry is fantastic.

     

 Very few balls,if any,will cover this amount of area and not quit on you.The

Raptor P7 makes heavy oil patterns look easy.

If you have not owned a MOTIV ball before,this is the one to own.

     

Side note:Over the last seven weeks on my Tuesday doubles league,I

have shot 680/697/740/837 with a 290 & 300 the last two games with

the last 23 in a row. And a  707/735/714.
 
 
Angela Wilt Motiv Staff Member

MOTIV GIRL
 
Edited on 8/1/2011 at 9:58 AM
Title: Re: Raptor P7 Solid
Post by: dugbark on August 01, 2011, 08:47:11 PM
 
Bowler Stats-Ball Speed 17 MPH Rev Rate-App 300 Axis of Rotation-30 to 60 degrees Axis Tilt 20 degrees Right Handed

The Motive Raptor P7 is designed for heavy or long oil patterns. The ball performs as advertised. It pushes through the heads with ease as on fresh shots with high volume of oil in the heads, revs up in the midlanes and make a very strong move to the pocket.  The change in direction is not as sharp as the Cruel LE but because it starts up earlier, the Raptor covers a couple of additional boards compared to the LE.   I have successfully used the Raptor playing up the boards on the far outside, as well as playing inside and swinging the ball to the dry.  I also used it on a 44 foot sport shot and was able to open the lane up more then those I was bowling with.  Once the volume of oil in the heads starts to lessen, the ball will start to read too early.  The Raptors Assymetrical Core provides a unique look on the lane that should easily allow a bowler to know when it's time to put this one up and ball down.  Being colorblind any markings on the ball that make it easy to pick up the transition from slide to roll helps me, and this one helps me a lot.   As long as there is sufficient oil in the heads and the mids, the Raptor is an excellent choice. 

 

The Raptor, as with all of the recent Motiv releases, does not seem to have a surface preference as it reacted well on all surfaces.

If you use this ball as designed on longer or heavier oil patterns, it is a very effective ball.


The Raptor gives Motiv a piece of equipment for Motiv believers who needed a ball to cover a lot of boards without the skid snap reaction.   I'm very colorblind but I've heard from multiple bowlers that the ball is very pleasing to the eye and will give it good shelf appeal.



Dug Barker
Motiv Staff
Bellarmine University Asst Coach
BTM Youth Writer
Ken-Bowl Lanes Youth Director
Positive Coaching Alliance Double Goal Coach
Title: Re: Raptor P7 Solid
Post by: mick31 on August 05, 2011, 03:16:29 PM
BALL SPECS


Pin Length:   3.75"

Starting Top Weight:  3.2 oz

Ball Weight:  15 lbs. 2 oz.

 


DRILL PATTERN


Pin to PAP:  3.75"

MB to PAP:  4.75" 

X Hole (if there is one):  P3
Dual Angle:  60 x 3.75" x 35

 

BOWLER STYLE




Rev Rate:  275

Ball Speed: 17-18

PAP/Track:  5 x 5/8 up

 




SURFACE PREP


Grit:  1500

Type: (Matte, Polish, Sanded):  Matte

 

LANE CONDITION



Length:  40'

Volume:  25 mL

Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc):  Sport



COMMENTS





This the latest ball from the fine USA company out of Michigan, MOTIV.  This ball features there 2nd asymmetrical core, Predator, that is wrapped in their most aggressive coverstock to date, Formula 7.  Together they are an excellent combination.  This ball is designed for medium heavy to heavy oil patterns and from what I can see it does not disappoint.  I drilled my initial Raptor w/the above mentioned specs.  Tried it out on the sport pattern & although it worked well w/OTB finish, I eventually hit it w/1500 pad.  WOW!  This ball enabled me to move farther left than any other ball in a freakin long time . . AND it still turned the corner!!  I'm a senior player (50+ catagory) so I needed the help the Raptor gave me. 

 

Decided to try it out on the THS.  Took it to 2000 grit w/slight amount of Power Gel Polish & OMG!  This ball ripped the rack.  The polish enabled me to get it down the lane but the amount of energy (hooking power) this ball had at the end of the pattern was eye-opening.  This is a real versatile coverstock.  Easily takes to adjustments.  I've never seen so many 'messengers' coming screaming across & taking out either the 9 or 10 pins. 

 

Do yourself a favor . . if you are looking for a ball that can do it all, take a serious look at the Motiv Raptor.  I truly believe you cannot go wrong. 

 

 

Bob "Mick" Michalojko

Motiv Staff Member

Turbo Extreme Staff Member

PBA Member

Colonial Lanes Pro Shop

 


 

 


Bob "Mick" Michalojko
Colonial Lanes Pro Shop
PBA Member
Motiv Staff Member
Title: Re: Raptor P7 Solid
Post by: mick31 on August 05, 2011, 03:16:44 PM
BALL SPECS


Pin Length:   3.75"

Starting Top Weight:  3.2 oz

Ball Weight:  15 lbs. 2 oz.

 


DRILL PATTERN


Pin to PAP:  3.75"

MB to PAP:  4.75" 

X Hole (if there is one):  P3
Dual Angle:  60 x 3.75" x 35

 

BOWLER STYLE




Rev Rate:  275

Ball Speed: 17-18

PAP/Track:  5 x 5/8 up

 




SURFACE PREP


Grit:  1500

Type: (Matte, Polish, Sanded):  Matte

 

LANE CONDITION



Length:  40'

Volume:  25 mL

Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc):  Sport



COMMENTS





This the latest ball from the fine USA company out of Michigan, MOTIV.  This ball features there 2nd asymmetrical core, Predator, that is wrapped in their most aggressive coverstock to date, Formula 7.  Together they are an excellent combination.  This ball is designed for medium heavy to heavy oil patterns and from what I can see it does not disappoint.  I drilled my initial Raptor w/the above mentioned specs.  Tried it out on the sport pattern & although it worked well w/OTB finish, I eventually hit it w/1500 pad.  WOW!  This ball enabled me to move farther left than any other ball in a freakin long time . . AND it still turned the corner!!  I'm a senior player (50+ catagory) so I needed the help the Raptor gave me. 

 

Decided to try it out on the THS.  Took it to 2000 grit w/slight amount of Power Gel Polish & OMG!  This ball ripped the rack.  The polish enabled me to get it down the lane but the amount of energy (hooking power) this ball had at the end of the pattern was eye-opening.  This is a real versatile coverstock.  Easily takes to adjustments.  I've never seen so many 'messengers' coming screaming across & taking out either the 9 or 10 pins. 

 

Do yourself a favor . . if you are looking for a ball that can do it all, take a serious look at the Motiv Raptor.  I truly believe you cannot go wrong. 

 

 

Bob "Mick" Michalojko

Motiv Staff Member

Turbo Extreme Staff Member

PBA Member

Colonial Lanes Pro Shop

 


 

 


Bob "Mick" Michalojko
Colonial Lanes Pro Shop
PBA Member
Motiv Staff Member
Title: Re: Raptor P7 Solid
Post by: hfkwill on August 08, 2011, 10:30:44 AM
The Raptor is the newest addition to MOTIV’s High Performance line. It features the new Predator asymmetrical core, wrapped around the Formula 7 cover. The intent of this ball is for heavy oil lane conditions, having an out of box surface at 4000 without polish. This ball will benefit those bowlers without much “hand” or those who are speed dominant, due to the easy revving core and strong shell
   

 I drilled my Raptor 40 x 4.5” x 60, drilling out the pin in the ring finger and with a weight hole down at P3 on the gradient line. The ball provides an earlier roll reading the mid-lane, and a strong arc to the pocket. For me, it is quite strong, and predictable making it an ideal ball for tournaments. It is hard for me to “over throw” this ball due to its aggressiveness. Taking the surface up to 2000 and adding some polish gives me a great look when there is a little more friction.

   

Compared to other bowling balls in the MOTIV line, it is 4/2 stronger than my Cruel C51; however, it allows me to create more angle to the pocket than the Cruel if needed. Where the Sigma Tour and the QZ2’s  are ideal as the lanes break down and allow me to open up the lane more, the Raptor is ideal for the fresh, and more volumes of oil.

 

 

   

 Video of my Raptor P7 in action:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNdMVDetj40 

 

 



William Welch
10 Back Pro Shops
MOTIV Staff Member .. Get MOTIVated
Title: Re: Raptor P7 Solid
Post by: DavidSchroeder on August 09, 2011, 01:24:38 PM
LANE CONDITION






Length: 43 ft

 

Volume: Heavy Oil


Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc): PBA Shark Pattern (sport)


 



The new MOTIV Raptor P7 is the latest and greatest heavy oil ball to hit the industry. Encased in the Formula-7 reactive coverstock and leaving the box at 4000 wet sanded, this ball is just the bully needed to beat up the lanes!! I drilled this ball with a 45x4.25x55 w/P2 hole. What that does for me is it places the pin 3/8” below my ring finger and kicks the mass bias 2” right of my thumb. The layout provides me an earlier roll on the lane with a strong and continuous backend motion through the pin deck. When I took the ball out to practice on the PBA Shark pattern, I found the ball/layout gave me the read I was anticipating without sacrificing back end aggression. This layout also provided me with area on the pattern without giving up the head pin. As the pattern transitioned the ball did not have a tendency to read earlier or die out as some heavy oil equipment does. A few lateral adjustments left maintaining the same shape on the lane and the ball continued to be just as strong as it was on the fresh. This ball is a fantastic addition to any bowler’s heavy oil arsenal.   






 


David Schroeder


MOTIV Staff/Turbo Staff

 

 


Title: Re: Raptor P7 Solid
Post by: Tripperof 4s on August 10, 2011, 07:24:57 AM
LANE CONDITION











Length: 40 ft.


 


Volume: moderate/heavy



Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc): sport pattern



 






COMMENTS









Likes:I have my Raptor drilled 60x30@4.5 in., weight hole 1.5 in. below axis. On the fresh, read the front part of the lane really well, and being a classic "tweener", this ball gave me the strong midlane and revved hard off the back end of the pattern consistently. Unlike other mas bias balls, the Raptor goes through the front part of the lane clean (even with box finish), and doesn't burn up too early...even as the heads broke down and the move in may have called for a change of equipment, the Raptor retained enough hitting power to stay in use. The Raptor allowed me to make deeper moves knowing that I wouldn't sacrifice hitting power.

   This ball revs harder off the breakpoint than any other ball I've thrown on heavier volumes, and is a definite addition for anyone looking for a ball on tighter lane conditions.     

 

 

-Nick Miseno

 MOTIV staff member





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If I could get one lucky hit...
 
Edited on 8/10/2011 at 5:26 AM
Title: Re: Raptor P7 Solid
Post by: Brian Hatcher on August 12, 2011, 03:37:47 PM

The hype on this ball has been incredible, so I couldn't wait to get my hands on one and see for myself what the fuss was about. So far, every new ball I've drilled by MOTIV has impressed me more than the ball prior. The Raptor is definitely no exception.


                               


I did a 4 1/2" tall pin with the mass bias fairly strong and no hole. For those of you who like the dual-angle method, it's about a 50/4 1/2"/45. I tested it on a 41' high volume version of this years USBC pattern. They started SLICK! I warmed up using most of my core group of bowling balls just to see how the Raptor compared with what I already had. Out of the box, I was afraid it didn't have quite enough surface on it, but I went with it just to see.


 


The first thing I noticed was that even being 4000 grit out of the box, the Raptor was still 5 boards stronger than anything I had in my bag. It easily, and I mean EASILY got back to the pocket from parts of the lane that I was convinced were unplayable. Even with the high volome of oil, and the ball's surface at 4000, it still read the mid-lane and made a strong and defined direction change with a very continuous motion down-lane as well.


 


Once I burned a hole in the track, I decided to jump left and see how much the Raptor really had. It was impressive! The fresh head oil farther inside helped it clear the front even better, and retain even more energy for the back part of the lane. The little trough I had burned into the pattern all of a sudden became a very big target to throw at. The Raptor was definitely not afraid of moving left and going around the pattern. In fact, it did it REALLY well.


 


The last thing I wanted to see was whether it would maintain its continuous backend motion if I added some surface. I took a 1000 grit abralon to it. It hooked about two feet sooner, and two or three boards more overall, so I stepped left just a little more. The Raptor still had a very defined motion down-lane and didn't seem to lose any of its continuation or its explosive hitting power.


 


This is definitely my new favorite! Thanks MOTIV!


 


Brian Hatcher


PBA Regional Staff


www.motivbowling.com

 

 
Title: Re: Raptor P7 Solid
Post by: BobDaBowler on August 20, 2011, 03:39:25 PM
 Ball Specs:

Surface: OOB 4000 Wet Sand


Layout: 50 x 4 5/8" x 40 w/no hole, Pin Up


Review:


I recently drilled up my first Raptor P7 by Motiv. My first impression, THIS BALL HOOKS A TON! I've thrown the Raptor on a 40ft typical house pattern and the 2010 Asian Games 45ft pattern. This ball did not fail to impress on both patterns. The raptor reads the front part of the lane fairly clean and makes real strong read in the midlane and is super continuous in the backend. Once the ball starts to hook it does not stop and rolls through the pin deck with tremendous hitting power. I would highly recommend this ball to anyone looking for a ball for heavy oil. However, I feel that with different drilling and surface preparations this ball can become very versatile. I'm definitely going to order me a couple more. Get yours today! Get MOTIVated!!!!

 

Bobby Middleton Jr.

MOTIV Staff Member

www.motivbowling.com


Title: Re: Raptor P7 Solid
Post by: MOTIVmags on August 23, 2011, 07:58:03 AM

Raptor P7




This was one of my initial MOTIV pieces drilled as a MOTIV Staffer. This ball is by far the strongest ball I have thrown from the foul line to the pins. It DOESN’T hook early and DOESN’T have a smooth arc like most pieces designed for heavy oil. This piece picks up VERY strong midlane and has a VERY continuous motion on the backend. This ball is versatile for all types of styles and can open up the lane even heavier flatter patterns.  




My first session with the Raptor was on a typical house shot with a synthetic surface and this ball struck for days. Even though I was on a typical house pattern, it somehow, made it look even easier. It also allowed me to play a house pattern even further in than I normally would and still blended the pattern. This ball can cover as many boards (or more) as a skid/flip ball, except the ball is much more controllable.




You can see my video here:





http://www.youtube.com/user/MOTIVmags?feature=mhee#p/a/u/1/QIAuTUB2UaY



Being one of my initial MOTIV pieces, I also noticed the cover factor. With a higher ball speed and moderate rev rate, I tend to throw pieces with surface. Before drilling exclusively MOTIV, a ball that started with a 1000 grit surface, looked more like it had a 4000 grit surface after a game or two. After throwing the Raptor 6 plus games on a fresh condition I noticed the ball did NOT get shinier, it was very consistent with the out of box surface.



If you are looking for a ball to transition to after the Raptor, look for my review on the Sigma Tour!




If you haven’t drilled a MOTIV piece, make this your first. You will not be disappointed!




 


Mike Magolan

 
MOTIV Staff Member

 

Edited on 8/23/2011 at 5:59 AM
 
Edited on 8/29/2011 at 7:07 AM
Title: Re: Raptor P7 Solid
Post by: MotivMike on August 29, 2011, 12:35:42 PM

The Bowler:

 

Left handed

 

Ball speed = 17

 

Rev Rate = 400

 

PAP = 5 ¾, 3/8 up

 

 

 

The Ball: Motiv Raptor P7

 

Ball Specs = 15# RG = 2.46 Diff = .060 Mass Bias = .015

 

Layout Ball #1 = 45x4.5x30

 

Layout Ball #2 = 65x6x70

 

Axis Migration with layout = ball #1 = 8 inches, ball #2 = 5 inches

 

Surface = both 4000 polished

 

The Raptor P7 is by far the strongest and most continuous bowling ball I’ve ever used. The Purple and black cover with the green and white Neo-Mark graphics really make this ball stand out on the ball return, and the performance make it stand out on the lane. This ball doesn’t disappoint, and lives up to the hype. I’ve found that the cover doesn’t absorb oil as fast as the Cruel C51 covers or other brands strong cover stocks as well. That means the ball will not only clear the heads better but will help prolong the performance of the ball over the long hall.

 

Ball #1 with the 45x4.5x30 starts to read the several feet earlier then Ball #2 and is the better suited ball for longer patterns. I found Ball #1 to shine on 42 foot patterns and longer. Ball #1 even gave me more miss room to the outside then I have ever had, and out hooks my TR2 with a similar layout by more than five boards (with the TR2 being at 800 grit). It has a strong even roll in the midlane with non-stop continuation on the backend. This ball flares from my grip on the initial track to 2 inches from the other side of my grip, this ball doesn’t quit!

 

Ball #2 with the 65x6x70 has more length and a skid flip type reaction on a medium heavy pattern. When the shot starts to burn up it will start to read the midlane and have a smoother reaction but still retain the strong continuation and fast revving roll into the pins. Ball #2 is better suited for medium heavy patters, or longer patterns after Ball #1 starts to hook beyond what adjustments will allow. Keep in mind that even with the weaker layout the cover is still strong and in some cases a weaker shell is required for the burn. I’ve had plenty of success with Ball #2 on typical house shots and found the carry to be amazing.

 

 

 

Michael Mambourg

 

Motiv Staff

 

www.Motivbowling.com

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DkgqgeA9NI

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMeBUB6q6n0



Title: Re: Raptor P7 Solid
Post by: Bronson on October 19, 2011, 09:11:53 AM
 

The Motiv Raptor is an excellent choice for medium to heavy oil lane conditions. This ball hooks while easily getting through the front of the lane. When the ball hits the breakpoint it has a strong backend reaction with continuation of hook through the pins. I can always count on this ball to give me the reaction that I need when the lanes are oily or have carry down. I even threw this ball on dry lanes during a rock and bowl and was able to cleanly get the ball down the lane while playing 20 out to 5 and watch it pound the pins.


What I like most about this ball is its versatility. You can leave the cover in its box finish, 4000 wet sand, or you can dull the cover to get that extra bite through the oil. Either way the pin carry is superb. I have used this ball on various conditions from a medium oil pattern at 33 foot and a heavy oil pattern at 45 foot and on both wood and synthetic surfaces. The Raptor is very predictable so I can quickly get a good read on the lanes to choose the best line.


I am right handed and throw the ball at 17mph. The ball is drilled 85x50x4 with no hole and was left at the factory finish of 4000. I use the Motiv Power Gel Scuff to keep the ball clean and ready to react at all times. If you want a ball with more reaction then this would be a great choice. Thank you Motiv for another excellent ball to add to my arsenal.


Bronson Schalizki


“Motiv Staff Member”

www.motivbowling.com


 

Bronson Schalizki


“Motiv Staff Member”

www.motivbowling.com
Title: Re: Raptor P7 Solid
Post by: emciver79 on October 21, 2011, 09:57:46 PM
 

MOTIV Raptor P7

 

 

 

Need something in your arsenal that reads the lanes early and continues to drive towards the pocket? The Motiv Raptor P7 does this. This is a very strong asymmetrical Predator core, rated at a 2.46 RG. You will get the early movement that you need on the patterns with the most oil.    It has a flare potential of 7”+!

 

 

 

I drilled this ball in a relatively strong position with the pin at 3 3/8 from my PAP, stacked CG and a hole between my PAP and my thumb. I took the cover down to a 2000 wet sand. I am a higher speed/higher rev type player. This layout/ball combination gets me through the heads very clean, hits the mark, grabs, and never stops rolling towards the pocket. It works on a wet THS and gives me a lot more room when playing on PBA patterns such as Scorpion and Chameleon. I feel like off of my hand, it is trying to grab the lane, and it never stops rolling. I can play straight up or move my feet in and cover more boards. 

 

 

 

This is defiantly a ball that will always be in my bag. I use the Motiv Sigma Tour as my benchmark ball, and then either go to my Raptor when I need a stronger reaction, or move to my QZ2 Backdraft or QZ2 Pearl if I need more length. The Raptor definitely fills the need for that strong ball in your bag for those medium to heavy oil lanes.

 

 

 

 

 

Eric McIver

 

MOTIV Staff Member

 
 

Title: Re: Raptor P7 Solid
Post by: rickzakrajsek on November 10, 2011, 09:09:12 AM
LANE CONDITION






Length:40 ft

 

Volume:


Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc):THS


 

COMMENTS                        
Motiv Raptor P7 Solid Bowling Ball

 


High Performance
- COLOR: Black/Purple
- INNER CORE: Predator
- COVERSTOCK: Formula-7 Reactive
- FINISH: 4000 Wet Sand
- FLARE: 7"+
- RG: 16#-2.46 15#-2.46 14#-2.48 13#-2.52 12#-2.59
- RG DIFFERENTIAL: 16#-.060 15#- .060 14#-.060 13#-.051 12#.037
- RECOMMENDED LANE CONDITION: Heavy Oil
- A few tiny pit holes in the cover stock of the ball are normal
- DESCRIPTION: The Raptor P7 certainly soars beyond expectation. It is an amazing high performance ball featuring the new Predator asymmetric core and new Formula-7 Reactive coverstock. The reaction produced is astounding. It is long, very strong, and has incredible continuation. Get MOTIVated!





Likes:If you want strength this is the ball for you....No MOTIV joins the ranks of demolition in the heavy oil patterns. Ive been searching for a ball that fits my game in the oil and now I have that MONSTER in the Raptor. With the early read and conservation of energy this ball allows me to get through the heavy oil and still make the turn when needed. The bonus is that this baby still retains the energy needed to smash the pocket. This is by far the stronget ball in my bag and first out when im bowling some of the heavier oil patterns on the PBA circuit. If your A game is in or you are looking for something for those oily patterns you have to have a Raptor! With this ball complimenting my Sigma Tour and new Primal Impulse I have everything I need !
 

Get MOTIV-ated and GET THIS BALL! You wont be dissapointed!

 



Dislikes: None...just know this ball is for OIL!!!!!!! you can modify the shell to extend the lenght but this is definitely an OIL killer!!!!!!!



Rick Zakrajsek

Motiv Staff



 

 

 


Title: Re: Raptor P7 Solid
Post by: joshs on February 24, 2012, 05:56:32 PM
I'm going to add my 2 cents for the Raptor Attack here until it's posted to the website

 

Raptor Attack

 

The Raptor Attack is another great addition to the MOTIV line.  This addition gives you a strong asymmetrical pearl option.  The overall ball motion is similar to the Raptor, but it gets through the lane much easier due to the pearl cover.  So when your Raptor starts burning up or hooking too much, you can pull this bad boy out of your bag and get the same type of ball motion on the lanes.  It also takes to surface changes very nicely.  This ball is simlpy awesome on THS.  It is becoming my favorit ball to thrown.  If you are looking for something that is a good compliment to the original Raptor then this is your ball.  This ball will read the lanes sooner than the Primal Impulse but give you more length than the Raptor. 

I've punched up two of these so far.  One with a long pin up, roughly 5 1/2 in, and one pin down, roughly 4 1/2 in.  The pin up gets down the lane very clean and the change of direction is stronger than the pin down.  Although the pin down reads the lane sooner, it still gets better length than the original Raptor.  With the same layout, I would rank the balls as follows: Raptor, Raptor Attack, Sigma Tour, and Primal Impulse.   
If you get the chance, add this ball to your arsenal, you won't be disapointed!  I will be uploading a video comparision of this ball to my youtube page shortly.  Check it out if you're interested in seeing some ball comparision videos. 
-http://www.youtube.com/user/topbowlinlyricist
-Josh Stephens
-Turbo Staff, Motiv staff
-www.motivbowling.com


"Every Strike brings me closer to my next homerun"
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Title: Re: Raptor P7 Solid
Post by: toverbey on March 02, 2012, 03:07:30 AM
Until the Raptor Attack becomes available on the site I shall post my review of it here.
 

Lane Condition:               

 

                40ft THS on AMF HPL

 

                Medium-Heavy Volume

   

 Layout:

 

                5” x 5 3/8”

 

                70 x5 x 40

 

 

 

While throwing the Raptor P7, with its Predator asymmetric core, I have thought to myself ‘how can I extend this great ball motion into the later games of the day?’ Enter the Motiv Raptor Attack. By wrapping the Predator (2.46 RG, .060 Diff) in the Atomix SFP Pearl Reactive coverstock (finished to 2000 with polish) you will retain the great revving motion of the Raptor P7 while getting the ball to push further down the lane and creating a  stronger backend reaction. I decided to lay this ball out relatively weak when compared to my P7 because I wanted the ball to definitively make it through the heads and save its energy for a strong and continuous finish, and that is what I obtained. Even though the mass bias is placed in a weak position for me, the Predator still creates 5”-6” of flare every time I release the ball. The ball roll created by that flare has given me a firm midlane revving reaction that helps it to push through any carry down and drive through the pins like a beast. I have found that this ball reaction is a great compliment to both the P7 and the Sigma Tour. When the lanes are a little too dry to throw the P7, but still too slick for the Sigma to read early enough, the Attack fills that role perfectly. If the pins are trying to hold you hostage, bring out the Motiv Raptor Attack and strike with a vengeance!

 
 
 


Trent Overbey
In the Zone Pro Shop
MOTIV Staff
www.motivbowling.com
Title: Re: Raptor P7 Solid
Post by: dna300x on March 06, 2012, 09:45:39 AM
BALL SPECS



Pin Length: 3.8

 


Starting Top Weight: 3.5 oz.
 


Ball Weight: 16 lb.



 




DRILL PATTERN




Pin to PAP: 2 1/2
 


60 x 2.5 x 20 w/ no extra hole 









BOWLER STYLE




Rev Rate: 400 RPM
 



Ball Speed: 19 MPH
 



PAP/Track: 3 3/8 left, 3/8 up



 








SURFACE PREP




Grit: 2000 grit
 



Type: (Matte, Polish, Sanded): Abralon



 









LANE CONDITION




Length: 37 feet
 



Volume: 23 mL
 



Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc): THS, and Kegel Broadway

 


 







BALL REACTION



Length: 8/10, cleaner than the original Raptor, very comparable to the Sigma Tour.



Back End: 6/10, Very similar motion to the Raptor, just a little sharper through the pin deck.


 



Overall Hook: 8/10, More hook than the Primal Impulse and Sigma Tour, but a little less than the original Raptor.




Midlane Read: 6/10, not as much mid lane as a Raptor, this sets up for a slightly stronger motion down lane.




Breakpoint Shape: 5/10, Strong arc. Not a big flip like the Primal Impulse, but certaintly more down lane than the original Raptor.




 









COMMENTS



Likes: I drilled my Raptor Attack the same as my P7. The layouts feature a 3:1 ratio and a flare reducing pin position to control flare. I really like my Raptor Attack when the fronts start to go and the P7 begins to burn up. I can stay in the same zone, and simply "ball down." The Attack will also handle more overall volume than the Primal Impulse because of the strong Predator core. Granted the cover stock is the same on both balls (Atomix SFP), but the Impulse core will be longer and stronger. I use my Attack to keep my target in front of me. When I want to stand right and throw left, the Primal Impulse is right at home. A high rev rate bowler may actually prefer the Attack to an original Raptor as it is the same core, but a cleaner shell.



Dislikes: The box finish was too weak for my liking. I took a 500 grit abralon pad to break the shell and brought it back up to 2000 grit. I found more usage out of the Attack after doing this coverstock preparation. I find that sometimes the Raptor Attack is too little/too much ball. I always seem to throw either a Raptor P7 (oil) or Primal Impulse/QZ2 Backdraft (medium, low volume, etc.) For me personally this piece is a niche reaction. It is not something I am going to need day in and day out, but is a good addition to the MOTIV line.



 


PICTURES AND/OR VIDEOS

 




 


 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_3DxVxraQ0


 


 


 



Darren Andretta
Motiv/Vise Inserts Regional Staff
www.motivbowling.com
Get MOTIVated!
 
Edited on 3/6/2012 at 8:49 AM
Title: Re: Raptor P7 Solid
Post by: Frank Ellsworth on November 29, 2013, 10:34:11 PM
LANE CONDITION

Length:

Volume:

Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc): sport pattern league


COMMENTS

Likes: Best Ball I have ever owned. Can not fault anything about this ball. Great hook pattern, and the pins fly off the ball during the finish. Great pin action.

Dislikes:


PICTURES AND/OR VIDEOS