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Title: Venom Panic
Post by: Ballreviews on February 11, 2015, 09:07:02 AM
Features:

- Color: Coral Snake Pearl
- Core: Gear
- Coverstock: Turmoil MFP Reactive
- Finish: 5000 Grit LSP
- RG: 2.48 (for 15# ball)
- Diff: .034 (for 15# ball)
- Recommended Lane Conditions:  Light-Medium Oil
Title: Re: Venom Panic
Post by: MOTIVmags on February 11, 2015, 09:11:26 AM

#Panicattack

Description: The Venom Panic is the 4th installment in the Venom series and again placed in the lower mid-price range. It is the first Venom to feature a pearl coverstock around the Gear Core. It has the NEW Turmoil MFP (Medium Friction Pearl) coverstock.

Reaction: The Venom Shock is one of my favorite balls EVER drilled. In fact I only brought 4 balls to Reno last year for USBC’s and 2 of them were Venom Shocks (In addition to a Covert Revolt and Artic Sniper). With that being said to be able to have a cleaner and faster responding version is nothing short of amazing. The Venom Panic hasn’t disappointed me…even with lower RG Gear Core it doesn’t seem to lack length but, it picks up in just the right spot to create great entry angle when the Venom Shock is too shallow. The Venom Panic has great continuation as well as that great carry that the Venom Shock is known for. My pin-up Venom Panic (40X5X45) provides just the right amount of length with a very strong motion down lane. My pin-down Venom Panic (70X4X60) provides a more even shape showing more strength sooner than later.

Comparisons: It’s very clear in the differences between the Venom Shock and Venom Panic. The Venom Shock clearly starts up sooner and doesn’t respond as fast to friction, I think it’s only stronger due to the difference in surface. The Tribal Fire is definitely cleaner throughout the lane with less overall hook potential. Last, the Revolt Vengeance reads the lane sooner with a more gradual shape down lane, giving it more hook potential. I also did a quick surface adjustment to the pin down Venom Panic, it was noticeably earlier and smoother as well as pushed me on top of the Venom Shock line. I did feel that it took away from the intended purpose and for me will best suited at the box surface.

Summary: It’s really unbelievable the quality of product and the hook potential MOTIV continues to put out with the price point on this line of balls. With that being said, I think this will be making the bag for USBC’s this year in Reno.

Mike Magolan
MOTIV/Turbo/Boom Apparel Staff Member
Title: Re: Venom Panic
Post by: rickzakrajsek on February 16, 2015, 07:13:51 AM
Panic ? Who me? ….NEVER. The new Venom panic is the first pearlized release in the Venom family! This baby gets down the lane and provides a strong angular motion on the back with incredible continuation. Whether you are a a stroker who likes to play up the board, a tweener who likes to belly it a bit or a cranker who likes to belly it a lot this ball fits all! If your up the boards its smooth motion through the front allows it to get down the lane and still recover with vicious motion off the friction. If your that tweener like me who likes to belly it a bit you can still get in deeper with it and she will make that strong angual turn off the back we so love to see! And for you crankers….oh you crankers. This baby is it! Because its made for light to medium oil condition. Its length allows you to get through the front and its back end motion is strong but not too jumpy so its leaves you in total control….Panic !!! Sure that’s exactly what your opponents will be doing! Get one now !!
Rick Zakrajsek
Motiv Staff Ohio
Title: Re: Venom Panic
Post by: sportshot on February 16, 2015, 12:24:36 PM

Ball Specs:
Motiv Venom Panic
Medium Friction Pearl
5000 LSP Polished Pearl Reactive
Ball Specs: Symmetric Core
Layout 70 x 4.5 x 30

Bowler Specs:
Right Hand. PAP 5 Over 1/2 up
Rev Rate 250. Tilt 20. Rotation 50.
Speed 16.5

Review:
The New Motiv Venom Panic is another Great ball by Motiv. The Panic LSP clears the front of the lane with ease, saving a strong but predicable move for the back end.  This ball has great carry and explosive hit. I think the box factory finish polish does exactly what it was designed to do, and I don’t see a reason to adjust this ball. Just keep it clean. This is a great ball to go to when the Shock is too strong. I have always been a fan of the Gear core and it was a perfect match for this cover. The Venom Panic drives through the pins with great continuation. The way the Panic reads friction is strong but predictable. The Panic fits just under my Shock but above the Apex. I don’t usually post scores on my reviews, but with just 6 games in league with this ball I have averaged 244.5. That should be a testimony to the carry percent of this ball. Higher rev players or people who want to square up or bowl on medium to dry will love this ball.
I have not tested this ball on a lot of patterns but for our house shot when I want to go a little straighter, or when bowling on dryer conditions this ball is a must have. The color of the Panic I got was a burnt orange with pink undertones. It will definitely get noticed on the lanes and on the shelf and even the manly men here really like the color. Motiv calls the color Coral. The Black logo is perfect on this ball.
This is another Motiv that preforms better than its price point.

Summary:
The Venom Panic is a piece Motiv needed in the line.
The Pearl cover on the Gear core is a great match.
A great ball when the Shock is too strong.
The Panic is a great ball at a great price.

Glenn Wendel
PBA Member
Motiv Staff
Turbo Staff

gwendel@comcast.net
www.motivbowling.com

Title: Re: Venom Panic
Post by: Mappa on February 17, 2015, 11:39:57 AM
The latest in the Venom series, the Panic pairs the reliable low RG Gear core with a new medium strength Pearl Cover. The Panic gets through the heads a bit cleaner than the Venom Shock, but still has that trademark smooth transition through the hook phase. The best way I can think to describe it is that the Panic tumbles forward through the pin-deck, keeping the pins low. For some bowlers, this type of motion on the back end can look a bit unusual to the eye at first. A real sharp angular snap can be real pretty to look at, but many times that’s not what’s going to yield you the highest scores. When the Panic moves on the back end, it has a slightly flatter trajectory, which can significantly improve my carry percentage when I’m playing in the track area to the 4th arrow.

   Here is a video I made that compares the Venom Panic to the Venom Shock, Jackal, Forza, Revolt Vengeance and Ascent on Kegel’s Bourbon Street Pattern.


   When building even a small tournament or league arsenal, you NEED to have a low RG, med/low differential piece in your bag. I can’t over emphasize the importance of having a variety of hook shapes available to you - so you’re always splitting the 8-9 through to the pit.  I tend to gravitate towards pearl covers, so the Panic is a perfect choice to fill the role for me.


--Kevin Gallagher—
     PBA Member
     MOTIV Staff
Title: Re: Venom Panic
Post by: seniorMOTIVguy on February 17, 2015, 12:54:57 PM
Venom Panic, not much more to say. With the proven Gear core and all new Turmoil MFP (medium friction pearl) coverstock, the Panic is already a winner for me.

The Venom Panic is cleaner through the front with a little faster response to friction in the back of a pattern. The Venom Shock is sooner and just a little slower in response to friction. The Venom Shock is by far my all time favorite ball ever. I drilled my Panic the same as my favorite Shock, 60X5X30, which I ended up shooting 800 3 consecutive weeks in league with. This particular layout is my benchmark layout that I like to use on pretty much everything.

I have only used the Panic in league for the past couple weeks and it allows me to play a little straighter compare to my Shock. Being a senior player, straighter is easier. I will be using the Panic in some upcoming PBA regionals and i will be updating the review.
Title: Re: Venom Panic
Post by: dna300x on February 22, 2015, 04:33:28 PM

Pin Length: 3 1/2 inches

Starting Top Weight: 2.7 ounces

Ball Weight: 16 lb, 1 oz.


DRILL PATTERN

45 x 4 1/2 x 70 with an extra hole from center of grip through CG on my VAL. 11/16 bit, 2" deep.


BOWLER STYLE:

Rev Rate: 400 RPM

Ball Speed: 19 MPH

PAP/Track: 4 3/8 left, 7/8 up


SURFACE PREP

5000 LSP (I have touched up the cover with 2000 grit and applied factory finish polish)

COMMENTS:

Likes: My favorite attribute of the Panic is how it makes that same great motion that the Venom Shock makes but it a couple of feet cleaner and a little faster off of friction.

Dislikes: Despite having a cleaner cover on it, if there isn't enough volume through the front it revs up too quickly and plaques at the pins.

The Venom Panic is the first MOTIV ball to have pearl cover wrapped around the proven Gear core. The Gear core is a favorite among many different styles and works well on several different environments. The cover is called Turmoil MFP (Medium Friction Pearl). I find it to be about the same total hook wise as compared to the Venom Shock but it is a good couple of feet cleaner and a bit whippier off the spot. I wouldn't classify it as a skid/flip ball but it certainly has some pop to it down lane. I see myself using this as a transition ball after my Venom Shock when the Shock begins to read too soon or is not continuing through the pin deck. I feel like if I am competing on a higher friction environment I can start with the Panic and ball down to the higher RG Tribal Fire. The thing that makes the lower end of the product line so good in my opinion is the lack of higher differentials with the core numbers. I find that on high friction and/or tougher patterns you want smoother transitions and not a ton of flare. One because it makes the pattern play easier and your adjustments become simpler. If you're a high rev player, you don't need a lot of help from the core anyways and you're layout choice doesn't become quite as critical. I personally resort to these balls often and they are my safety net so to speak. That being said the Panic will work great for heavy handed players as well bowlers looking for a controllable shape without sacrificing length and continuation through the pins.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9QqjqAqZTA&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: Venom Panic
Post by: toverbey on February 26, 2015, 01:03:01 PM
Layout:
   70 x 4 ½ x 35

When the lanes start to dry out and your aggressive equipment starts to hook too soon don’t let the pins think that they are safe; instead make them have a Panic attack!  The new MOTIV Venom Panic is a great new addition to the Venom family as the first pearl in the line.  The proven Gear core (2.48RG, .034 Diff) helps drive the all new Turmoil MFP Reactive shell (finished at 5000 LSP) down the lane and through the pins with power.  I laid mine out to give me a ball to switch to when my Sting and Forza started to hook too soon and wouldn’t quite turn the corner how I needed it to.  The Panic glides through the heads easily thanks to the pearl shell, but still has the same great midlane read, albeit towards the end of the mids, that accompanies the Gear core.  I get a motion at the breakpoint that is very strong but not snappy or uncontrollable.  Once to the pins this ball drives through the deck with ease; I frequently flirt with leaving 9-pins because this ball just wants to keep continuing.  So far I have found the Panic to be at home on the burn, roughly game three on a 4/5 man team or games 4-6 at tournaments where there are only 2-3 people per lane.  Overall I believe this ball is a great compliment to the proven Venom line, and the MOTIV line up as a whole, for the medium-light oil range.  As a bonus, the Coral coloring really pops on the ball rack and lane, too.

Trent Overbey
In the Zone Pro Shop
MOTIV Staff
www.motivbowling.com
Title: Re: Venom Panic
Post by: tsambuen on February 27, 2015, 04:18:22 PM
I have my venom panic drilled with the pin over my ring finger which puts it about 3 3/4 inches away from my PAP with a hole to tame out the back end.  This ball allows me to play straighter angles in the front part of the lane compared to my venom shock.  The panic is very clean through the front part of the lane and has a nice smooth motion at the end of the pattern because of the weight hole.  Compared to the shock the panic gets down a little further but not as much motion in the back of the pattern for me.  So when my shock becomes a little angular I can just stand in the same place and throw my panic and it will be fine.  If I need something smoother than my panic I can just move a little left and throw my Forza. 
Title: Re: Venom Panic
Post by: DCBowler800 on February 28, 2015, 09:27:18 AM
Ball Specs and Layout:
Turmoil MFP Reactive
5000 Grit LSP
Gear Core
3.5” pin, 2.9 top weight
40 x 4.5 x 45 (P1 Hole)

Bowler Stats:
Rev Rate – 425
Ball Speed – 17 mph (down-lane)
PAP – 3 ½ over, ¾ up
Right-handed

Test Environment:
35’ WTBA Beijing (synthetic surface)

Review:
I tested my Venom Panic against the Venom Shock and Tribal. With this testing done on a shorter pattern, the Venom Panic did exactly what I anticipated. I have found a home for the Venom Panic when the Venom Shock is a bit too soon and too angular, and when the Tribal doesn’t quite make it back to the pocket. I found more success when the pattern began to blend out, and quickly began to open up on the lanes. The backend control is predictable and controllable.

Likes:
Clean through fronts
Controlled backend
Great in middle of a block

Dislikes:
None

Summary:
Everyone that fell in love with the Venom Shock, everyone will love the Venom Panic and then some. These two are an amazing combination, even the color scheme is something enjoy. There is nothing not too like about the Venom Panic as it goes down the lanes. I’ve stopped counting how times I think Motiv is winning with each bowling ball, this is a winning streak I know that won’t end.

Darryl Carreon
MOTIV Staff / PBA Member
Title: Re: Venom Panic
Post by: Manofsteel99 on March 04, 2015, 11:13:39 PM
The new Venom Panic New release by MOTIV A very nice piece and fit into the MOTIV line contains the popular and proven low rg gear core that is wrapped around the new turmoil MFP pearl cover stock. When compared to the venom shock, which is one of my favorite balls in the line, it is very smooth which is what I like see. It reads the mids very well and is just a continuous beast. Not snappy and very controllable.The venom panic on the THS is a bit smoother thru the front part of the lane but it spins up a bit quicker off the spot than the venom shock. If the shock is not going through the pins correctly the panic is a quick fix to get out those pesky corner pIns. It works especially well when you have to chase the oil  in and get more angle on the pIns.

Likes: hook shapes of the shock and panic are very similar spins up a bit quicker than the shock off the spot .Its continuation through the pins is incredible love the color.

Dislikes: none

MOTIV never ceases to amaze me with the great equipment they continues to produce and how well each release fits in the current product line. If you want control and continuous motion the new venom panic is a great addition. Put this one in your bag, you won't regret it.

Herman Ferguson
MOTIV staff
Gil's pro shop
Title: Re: Venom Panic
Post by: jsellers31Motiv on March 06, 2015, 08:48:29 AM
I drilled the new Venom Panic just like i drill all my symmetrical balls (65 x 4 1/2 x 35). I love this layout because it gives me plenty of flare without sacrificing down-lane hook for my style. This ball fits right between Venom Shock and Tribal Fire. It features the same low-rg, low-diff Gear core from the previous Venoms, but with a more responsive polished cover stock.

Comparing the new Panic to my Venom Shock, I saw a cleaner path in the fronts and midlane with the Panic, and more entry angle. The Shock handles slightly more volume, but when the lanes breakdown and I need to open my angles, the Panic is definitely the way to go.  On fresh patterns, my adjustment is 3 boards right with my feet and 2 boards right with my target with the new Panic compared to my Venom Shock.
Title: Re: Venom Panic
Post by: jrob857 on March 08, 2015, 10:58:00 AM
LANE CONDITION

Length: 42 feet

Volume:

Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc): THS


COMMENTS

Review:

The Venom Panic by Motiv Bowling is the latest release and the newest addition to the Venom line. The Venom is the first pearl out of the Venom line and this light to medium oil bowling ball is a monster to say the least. The Venom Panic brings together the highly successful Gear core. The Gear core has a lower RG so it can revs a lot more easier and combine that with a lower differential so it can retain energy downlane and provide strong continuation through the pins. With the Gear core, Motiv introduce the new Turmoil MFP (Medium Friction Pearl) Pearl Reactive cover stock. This new pearl cover provides a little more length and more of an angular backend motion than the Venom Shock.

Inner Core -         Gear
Coverstock -        Turmoil MFP Reactive
Finish -               5000 Grit Laser Scan Polished

Comments:

The Venom shock was a benchmark ball for me and still is. It’s usually the first ball out of my bag on most nights either bowling in league or tournament because it will show how the lanes are playing today and what I need use in order to succeed. Now the Venom Panic is something I’ve been dying to have in my bag. I wanted something that has a smooth motion but has length and angular backend motion and the Venom Panic is that piece for me. I can actually start more right with the Panic then the Shock, which for me is always nice. And the Panic is great bowling ball that retains its energy so well the transition does not have to be such a headache sometimes. All types of bowlers will love the Venom Panic because it’s so smooth in transition and retains its energy stronger than most pieces out there.

Likes: Smooth transition and ball motion; incredible length; strong, angular backend motion and continuation.

Dislikes: None.

I recommend the Venom Panic to all different styles and typed of bowlers.

Motiv Staff and Realbowlerstape.com staff,
John Robertson
www.motivbowling.com


Title: Re: Venom Panic
Post by: drock300 on March 23, 2015, 01:31:28 PM
LANE CONDITION

Length: 41 ft

Volume: 25.45 mL

Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc): USBC White #2


COMMENTS

Likes: Clean through the front - Ability to open up angles - Complements Venom Shock

Dislikes: None


In bowling the local association tournament over the last couple of weekends, I finally got to see some differences in my equipment (have only bowled league since signing with Motiv at the end of January).

The tournament was in a house that has some maintenance issues and old HPL surface. I was trying to stay as far left as I could, for as long as I could, but I generally always ended up playing 18-20 to 7-9.

When I got to this part of the lane, I grabbed the panic (after using a Shock and Tribal) in hopes of getting a cleaner motion through the front so I wouldn't have to use excessive speed and possibly missing the spot down lane. And this ball gave me the look I needed, when I needed it!!

It is a great compliment to the Shock and believe this ball will have a permanent spot in my tournament arsenal.
Title: Re: Venom Panic
Post by: BobDaBowler on April 01, 2015, 12:03:17 AM
Engineered for light to medium oil, the Venom Panic is the first pearl ball ever released in the Venom series. 

This coral snake gets down the lane easily and strikes with a deadly response to friction.

The Gearâ„¢ core in the Venom Series has proven to be an incredible core design and has been utilized once again

in the Venom Panic.  The Gear core has a lower RG for easy revs and a lower differential to retain energy for

outstanding continuation.

The new Turmoilâ„¢ MFP (Medium Friction Pearl) Pearl Reactive cover stock is engineered to provide more length

than the Venom Shock and a more angular backend motion.  The Coral pearl shell is tuned at the factory with a

5000 Grit LSP finish.  This compliments the performance target of the new Turmoil MFP cover.   

For the average bowler, the Venom Panic will provide excellent length and a strong backend with a smoother

transition. High rev bowlers, in particular, will appreciate that smoother transition since some angular

equipment can be too jumpy.  Tournament bowlers will like the Venom Panic for the same reason, but also because

it retains so much energy for proper continuation.  It simply gets through the pins the right way on light to

medium oil shots.

Review:

WOW. This ball has become one of my favorite balls I have EVER thrown from MOTIV. The New MOTIV Venom Panic is

really amazing in alot of ways! I drilled mine with my favorite layout (65 x 4.5 x 40) and I am very impressed!

The MOTIV Venom Panic is very clean through the fronts with a quick reaction to friction downlane. The ball is

killer when I am able to play the deep inside part of the lane. The ball seriously recovers from anywhere on

the lane and just continues through the pins with rediculous pin carry. My last two months in league I have not

put this ball down. I go 722, 722, 735, 779, 776, 814, 704, 719, and 745. This ball takes the Venom line to another level and is a great ball down from the shock. The shock is great inside but would eventually struggle with recovery and pin carry at a certain point. The Venom Panic has been striking for me anywhere on the lane. I plan on drilling another as well as stocking some up in my closet for the future. Ball is TOO GOOD. Must have in my opinion!!! Get MOTIVated!!!

Bobby Middleton Jr
MOTIV Staff Member
www.motivbowling.com
Title: Re: Venom Panic
Post by: cyafromfla on April 01, 2015, 01:36:34 PM


This ball is the newest introduction into the Venom line of bowling balls. The MOTIV Venom Panic features a new pearl coverstock combined with the Gear core.  It's super clean through the front of the lane, very strong off the spot and all the backends you will be looking for.

It will be a great fit in your bag on light to medium oil.

My Panic is laid out with the pin above the ring finger, a slight shift and no hole. It is clean through the front part of the lane, makes a strong move and is very continuous through the pins. This ball is going to get A LOT of play for me on light to medium oil. 

Craig Auerbach
MOTIV Staff Member
Florida
Title: Re: Venom Panic
Post by: The SuperHitMan on April 08, 2015, 12:42:21 PM
LANE CONDITION

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Title: Re: Venom Panic
Post by: Wya_Rya on April 20, 2015, 03:11:48 PM
I am sure that we have all heard the phrase ‘If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it…’ many times when we continue to tweak and tinker with many different things. Well, I believe MOTIV either did not hear these words in the same sentence before or choose to ignore it. In either event, with the amount of success that has been seen with the Venom Shock, who would have predicted a follow up on the Venom line? Enter the Venom Panic, one of the few times the word ‘Panic’ will result in continued success and positive vibes. The Venom Panic presents us with an aspect of cover stock that has not been seen within the Venom line and has been missed since the release of the Shock. Although the Venom Shock has been one of the most versatile balls I have thrown; is still a Solid cover. With a Solid cover, eventually it will reach an oil pattern, broken down or fresh, the ball will burn up down lane and just will not snap out corners.  The need for a ball that can get down lane and retain its energy for those broken down and short patterns became clear. MOTIV has been listening and has seen it for themselves, bringing to life a pearl cover stock wrapped around the proven Gear core. The Turmoil MFP Pearl Reactive cover provides us with additional length and more angular motion that what has been seen from the Venom Shock. The irony of this particular ball is that some tend to ‘panic’ with a Lengthy, angular ball reaction as they can be rather jumpy and an over/under reaction is seen, but the panic actually provides the exact opposite. Despite the length and the angular motion down lane, the Venom Panic offers a much smoother transition as the ball responses to the friction down lane.
The first night I had unleashed this ball on the lanes at my league night, it was clear from the first shot what the ball was capable of. Now, for those of you who have reviewed my posts in the past know that I bowl in 2nd shift leagues all season long. So I’m normally bowling on a broken down house shots about 85-90% of the time. Although I have been successful with my Venom Shocks multiple times on these conditions, there are just nights that they refuse to knock all 10 pins down in one shot for the very reasons explained above. The Panic on the other hand, I may have mentioned this before, but my two teammates are both Storm/Roto-Grip fans, let’s just say, although they will deny it, there was surprise in their faces and were impressed at what I was able to accomplish with the Venom Panic. Within a month of punching up my Venom Panic, I thrown 300 the 3rd game of my set after switching to this ball without a single test shot in the previous 2 games. This ball is as advertised my friends, the length was able to allow me to actually play more up the boards as I was able to get the ball down lane much easier without over powering my shot. Although it has a very fast response to friction, it’s difficult to truly describe the way this ball transitions, there an evident angle seen when the ball flips but more of an arcing response rather than actually sharp angle that is seen in most skid\flip reactions.
 
Ryan Wyandt
MOTIV Staff Member
Shoemakersville, PA
rwyandt869@gmail.com
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