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Equipment Boards => Motiv => Topic started by: Azaelv on April 18, 2015, 05:30:59 PM
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Looking to get a nice 1-2 combo and my options are between forza, panic, tag or shock combo for medium oil conditions, modified THS 40 feet long and 36 feet.
im a tweener, lefty around 300-330 revs, 15 mph.
best regards!
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Forza is excellent choice.
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Shock and Tag! Two of the best I've ever thrown
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Shock and Tag! Two of the best I've ever thrown
I'm with you! Don't have the Tag yet but I will.
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The Tag is just damn good! I have two and love them both.
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Compared to the sting.. what are the differences between the options im am handling
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Vince
How much of a difference are you seeing between the 2 Tags?
I just drilled 1 myself 75/4.625/55 and love the motion.
Thinking another with lower VAL and p3.
Thx
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I have #1 40x43/4x40 P2 4000 light polish and tag #2 50x3/34x60p3 4000. Tag #2 is about 2ft earlier and 5 full stronger. Even #2 has great punch off the pattern. They are both excellent. Could be the best ths combo I've ever thrown.
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The Tag is just damn good! I have two and love them both.
The tag is solid or pearl? because i've seen it advertised as pearl and solid, and wel for light medium oil I have my uproar which is a pearl one and love it.
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It's a solid. It's very very clean.
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It's a solid. It's very very clean.
So the tag is not a pearl? Its a solid? Then the information on motiv website is wrong, then now I'm conserding getting a tag if its a solid
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Where on the website does it say it's a pearl?
I saw it described as Agility MXR reactive.
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ITEM NUMBER MTVBTGPP
INNER CORE Halogen
COVERSTOCK Agility MXR Reactive
FINISH 5500 Grit LSP
WEIGHTS 16 15 14 13 12
RG RATING 2.54 2.55 2.56 2.59 2.64
RG DIFFERENTIAL .036 .037 .038 .038 .031
MB DIFFERENTIAL
FLARE POTENTIAL 4"+
Length
17.0
Hook
49.0
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Holy moly maybe I'm seeing things or click wrong ball on my phone. Might of been the ball on top of the tag then I seen woops.
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Forza and tag a nice 1-2 combo based on the coverstocks and being solids should give alot of motion control downlane without over reacting to the friction
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Holy moly maybe I'm seeing things or click wrong ball on my phone. Might of been the ball on top of the tag then I seen woops.
The description here on ballreviews has it as a pearl, maybe where you saw it.
http://www.ballreviews.com/motiv/graffiti-tag-t307682.0.html (http://www.ballreviews.com/motiv/graffiti-tag-t307682.0.html)
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Agree with those recommending a Shock and Tag. The Forza is a great ball, but with medium oil and somewhat rev dominant stats, I feel it will spend most of its time in the bag.
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Agree with those recommending a Shock and Tag. The Forza is a great ball, but with medium oil and somewhat rev dominant stats, I feel it will spend most of its time in the bag.
I already have a sigma sting that I love and I usually play 6-10th board with it and dont use a lot of revs on it but more speed, and if im ont 610th board, I´ll move right (LH) to play 18th board and put some revs on it, will shock and tag be a nice complement?
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Agree with those recommending a Shock and Tag. The Forza is a great ball, but with medium oil and somewhat rev dominant stats, I feel it will spend most of its time in the bag.
I already have a sigma sting that I love and I usually play 6-10th board with it and dont use a lot of revs on it but more speed, and if im ont 610th board, I´ll move right (LH) to play 18th board and put some revs on it, will shock and tag be a nice complement?
Then I believe the Shock will be just a bit earlier and maybe a couple boards weaker at most. The Forza is much earlier and from what I have seen, can be stronger than the Sting.
I think a Sting-Shock-Tag would be formidable 3-ball combination for a lot of medium conditions. Once you get to something heavier then something stronger may be needed. I especially believe the Shock would be a great ball on the 36 foot pattern depending on how you like to play that shot. Haven't seen enough from the Tag to determine if it is a great ball for shorter shots.
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Agree with those recommending a Shock and Tag. The Forza is a great ball, but with medium oil and somewhat rev dominant stats, I feel it will spend most of its time in the bag.
I already have a sigma sting that I love and I usually play 6-10th board with it and dont use a lot of revs on it but more speed, and if im ont 610th board, I´ll move right (LH) to play 18th board and put some revs on it, will shock and tag be a nice complement?
Then I believe the Shock will be just a bit earlier and maybe a couple boards weaker at most. The Forza is much earlier and from what I have seen, can be stronger than the Sting.
I think a Sting-Shock-Tag would be formidable 3-ball combination for a lot of medium conditions. Once you get to something heavier then something stronger may be needed. I especially believe the Shock would be a great ball on the 36 foot pattern depending on how you like to play that shot. Haven't seen enough from the Tag to determine if it is a great ball for shorter shots.
With Motiv showing the Tag as a "Light Oil" Ball, will the Tag even think about working on Medium Oil?
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Agree with those recommending a Shock and Tag. The Forza is a great ball, but with medium oil and somewhat rev dominant stats, I feel it will spend most of its time in the bag.
I already have a sigma sting that I love and I usually play 6-10th board with it and dont use a lot of revs on it but more speed, and if im ont 610th board, I´ll move right (LH) to play 18th board and put some revs on it, will shock and tag be a nice complement?
Then I believe the Shock will be just a bit earlier and maybe a couple boards weaker at most. The Forza is much earlier and from what I have seen, can be stronger than the Sting.
I think a Sting-Shock-Tag would be formidable 3-ball combination for a lot of medium conditions. Once you get to something heavier then something stronger may be needed. I especially believe the Shock would be a great ball on the 36 foot pattern depending on how you like to play that shot. Haven't seen enough from the Tag to determine if it is a great ball for shorter shots.
For stronger stuff I have a Totally Defiant, BW Assassin and a Crux, so I feel my bases are covered with those 3 for heavier/longer patterns.
Agree with those recommending a Shock and Tag. The Forza is a great ball, but with medium oil and somewhat rev dominant stats, I feel it will spend most of its time in the bag.
I already have a sigma sting that I love and I usually play 6-10th board with it and dont use a lot of revs on it but more speed, and if im ont 610th board, I´ll move right (LH) to play 18th board and put some revs on it, will shock and tag be a nice complement?
Then I believe the Shock will be just a bit earlier and maybe a couple boards weaker at most. The Forza is much earlier and from what I have seen, can be stronger than the Sting.
I think a Sting-Shock-Tag would be formidable 3-ball combination for a lot of medium conditions. Once you get to something heavier then something stronger may be needed. I especially believe the Shock would be a great ball on the 36 foot pattern depending on how you like to play that shot. Haven't seen enough from the Tag to determine if it is a great ball for shorter shots.
With Motiv showing the Tag as a "Light Oil" Ball, will the Tag even think about working on Medium Oil?
From what I´ve seen, it recovers pretty well, honestly I don´t know why but its a nice ball from light to medium oil, maybe its because the coverstock is a solid?
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very easy without a doubt the FORZA and TAG thats all you need
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Already placed the order for my Tag, still debating between Forza and Shock ???
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shock is excellent and takes surface changes great. So does the Tag
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The Tag is solid and probably the best ball I ever threw..
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The Tag is solid and probably the best ball I ever threw..
I think people need to ignore the old way of thinking where a solid is early and even rolling and where a pearl is skid/flip (and hybrid in between the two). Manufacturers are using whatever technology and core/cover combinations they can to achieve a desired result. If that means having a solid ball be considered somewhat skid/flip, as in the Tag, or a pearl being kinda early and even rolling, like the Jackal can be, then so be it. Look at what the ball is suppose to be along with real-life experience with said ball and let that be what dictates expectation. Not solid versus pearl.
And 12XSECH, I wasn't picking on you, just wanted to make sure people don't associate cover type to reaction shape when they see the Tag, or any ball for that matter.
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Agreed with spmcgivern that a Sting, Shock, Tag combo would be great for THS shots (that is my plan for next year).
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I currently own the Forza/Shock/Primal Rage/Tribal
I would say if all you ever see is medium then the Shock is the go to. I bought the Forza before the Shock and the Forza is a great ball but the Shock is just much more versatile. You could very easily compare the Shock to some other companies medium to heavy balls it is that strong and good. So even running into some heavier conditions I think you will be alright with the Shock.