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Title: Anyone Received Their Jackal LE Yet?
Post by: AMF300bowler on September 09, 2016, 01:32:05 PM
So we can keep track of deliveries, I thought I would throw this out there as a way to track when the Jackal LE's start getting delivered to us consumers. I'm waiting on one for me and my son. Some PBA/PWBA staffers have theirs and used them in the past week at tournaments.

So, post away when you get yours or you get notified to go to your pro-shop and pick it up.
Title: Re: Anyone Received Their Jackal LE Yet?
Post by: milorafferty on September 09, 2016, 02:05:55 PM
As I posted on the Motiv site, if Motiv is going to send the LE to their staffers before their paying customers are taken care of, I will have to reconsider which company I purchase my equipment from.

I have received an email about the USBC rejection of the appeal, but nothing about shipment of the replacement balls as yet.
Title: Re: Anyone Received Their Jackal LE Yet?
Post by: cory867 on September 09, 2016, 02:17:18 PM
As I posted on the Motiv site, if Motiv is going to send the LE to their staffers before their paying customers are taken care of, I will have to reconsider which company I purchase my equipment from.

I have received an email about the USBC rejection of the appeal, but nothing about shipment of the replacement balls as yet.

I would tend to agree!
Title: Re: Anyone Received Their Jackal LE Yet?
Post by: 2handedvolcano on September 09, 2016, 02:53:36 PM
did you guys have to pay the $5.00 shipping for FedEX?
Title: Re: Anyone Received Their Jackal LE Yet?
Post by: CoorZero on September 09, 2016, 03:06:29 PM
Motiv staffers using the Jackal LE for a PBA event, even just for qualifying, makes me think they will open it up for regular sale at some point. The company isn't going to want them throwing and advertising equipment that people can't buy.

Title: Re: Anyone Received Their Jackal LE Yet?
Post by: Impending Doom on September 09, 2016, 03:09:38 PM
Motiv staffers using the Jackal LE for a PBA event, even just for qualifying, makes me think they will open it up for regular sale at some point. The company isn't going to want them throwing and advertising equipment that people can't buy.



Same thought here.
Title: Re: Anyone Received Their Jackal LE Yet?
Post by: milorafferty on September 09, 2016, 03:12:26 PM
Motiv staffers using the Jackal LE for a PBA event, even just for qualifying, makes me think they will open it up for regular sale at some point. The company isn't going to want them throwing and advertising equipment that people can't buy.



I don't have an issue with the LE being sold to the general public, but the first ones should go to the paying customers who purchased the original Jackal and Jackal Carnage. Then by all means, sell the LE and let the staffers throw them.

TAKE CARE OF YOUR CUSTOMERS FIRST MOTIV.
Title: Re: Anyone Received Their Jackal LE Yet?
Post by: spmcgivern on September 09, 2016, 03:14:48 PM
In theory I agree milo, but some levels of staffers for Motiv pay for their equipment.  It may be at a reduced rate, but they still pay for them.
Title: Re: Anyone Received Their Jackal LE Yet?
Post by: milorafferty on September 09, 2016, 03:18:36 PM
In theory I agree milo, but some levels of staffers for Motiv pay for their equipment.  It may be at a reduced rate, but they still pay for them.

Fair enough, but here is the real question the Motiv brain-trust should ask themselves; do they value their staffers more or their customers who pay full retail? Do they have enough reduced rate staffers to pay their bills without those lowly non-staffer customers?
Title: Re: Anyone Received Their Jackal LE Yet?
Post by: CoorZero on September 09, 2016, 03:23:06 PM
I don't have an issue with the LE being sold to the general public, but the first ones should go to the paying customers who purchased the original Jackal and Jackal Carnage. Then by all means, sell the LE and let the staffers throw them.

TAKE CARE OF YOUR CUSTOMERS FIRST MOTIV.

Oh I don't disagree with that, was just a thought that popped into my head after reading the first post/seeing the E.J. Tackett post on Facebook.
Title: Re: Anyone Received Their Jackal LE Yet?
Post by: lilpossum1 on September 09, 2016, 03:49:54 PM
Maybe I am the odd one on here, but I feel like it isn't so wrong for the staffers to get the equipment first.
1. In a sense, they are employees of Motiv. I feel like a company should take care of its employees first.
2. It is their job to represent, inform, and ultimately increase sales for Motiv. If being in the first (smaller of the two) group gives Tacket the ball used for the win in time for a tournament, it gives Motiv a bit more publicity and recognition from a win. If he didn't have that ball, he may not have placed.
3. Like I said, the staffers are a smaller group than the general public. How much longer will take everyone else to receive their replacement balls if the staffers get it first? A week? Maybe two tops. Big whoop. How many league sessions have you all bowled without a jackal? It isn't going to kill you to wait just a little longer.
Title: Re: Anyone Received Their Jackal LE Yet?
Post by: milorafferty on September 09, 2016, 03:50:35 PM
I don't have an issue with the LE being sold to the general public, but the first ones should go to the paying customers who purchased the original Jackal and Jackal Carnage. Then by all means, sell the LE and let the staffers throw them.

TAKE CARE OF YOUR CUSTOMERS FIRST MOTIV.

Oh I don't disagree with that, was just a thought that popped into my head after reading the first post/seeing the E.J. Tackett post on Facebook.

I would find it hard to believe that Tackett is getting his equipment at reduced price.
Title: Re: Anyone Received Their Jackal LE Yet?
Post by: milorafferty on September 09, 2016, 03:51:33 PM
Maybe I am the odd one on here, but I feel like it isn't so wrong for the staffers to get the equipment first.
1. In a sense, they are employees of Motiv. I feel like a company should take care of its employees first.
2. It is their job to represent, inform, and ultimately increase sales for Motiv. If being in the first (smaller of the two) group gives Tacket the ball used for the win in time for a tournament, it gives Motiv a bit more publicity and recognition from a win. If he didn't have that ball, he may not have placed.
3. Like I said, the staffers are a smaller group than the general public. How much longer will take everyone else to receive their replacement balls if the staffers get it first? A week? Maybe two tops. Big whoop. How many league sessions have you all bowled without a jackal? It isn't going to kill you to wait just a little longer.

It's not going to kill me to buy my equipment from a different company either.
Title: Re: Anyone Received Their Jackal LE Yet?
Post by: nolesftw on September 09, 2016, 03:56:41 PM
I also have considered and started buying other brands. Until I get a replacement why should I buy motiv, especially seeing that staff members have them. Would be better to give paying customers what they paid for first.
Title: Re: Anyone Received Their Jackal LE Yet?
Post by: milorafferty on September 09, 2016, 04:01:39 PM
Maybe I am the odd one on here, but I feel like it isn't so wrong for the staffers to get the equipment first.
1. In a sense, they are employees of Motiv. I feel like a company should take care of its employees first.
2. It is their job to represent, inform, and ultimately increase sales for Motiv. If being in the first (smaller of the two) group gives Tacket the ball used for the win in time for a tournament, it gives Motiv a bit more publicity and recognition from a win. If he didn't have that ball, he may not have placed.
3. Like I said, the staffers are a smaller group than the general public. How much longer will take everyone else to receive their replacement balls if the staffers get it first? A week? Maybe two tops. Big whoop. How many league sessions have you all bowled without a jackal? It isn't going to kill you to wait just a little longer.

After reading this again, it just baffles me.
Title: Re: Anyone Received Their Jackal LE Yet?
Post by: lilpossum1 on September 09, 2016, 04:09:32 PM
I just feel like those that work hard representing a company deserve certain perks over the everyday person that uses the products recreationally. And a vast majority of those getting the replacements are doing that exactly.
Title: Re: Anyone Received Their Jackal LE Yet?
Post by: milorafferty on September 09, 2016, 04:28:16 PM
I just feel like those that work hard representing a company deserve certain perks over the everyday person that uses the products recreationally. And a vast majority of those getting the replacements are doing that exactly.

So in your opinion, the company exists to serve it's employees? And us peon customers should just be thankful that we are allowed to purchase their equipment at all?

For your financial sake, I hope you do not own a business.
Title: Re: Anyone Received Their Jackal LE Yet?
Post by: Impending Doom on September 09, 2016, 04:39:10 PM
I wasn't a part of #jackalgate, but I feel this could have been a chance to show the world that, to Motiv, customers come first.

But then, there are so many Brunswick staffers they have to piss off! #spinme
Title: Re: Anyone Received Their Jackal LE Yet?
Post by: Steven on September 09, 2016, 04:46:12 PM
I just feel like those that work hard representing a company deserve certain perks over the everyday person that uses the products recreationally. And a vast majority of those getting the replacements are doing that exactly.

So in your opinion, the company exists to serve it's employees? And us peon customers should just be thankful that we are allowed to purchase their equipment at all?

For your financial sake, I hope you do not own a business.

LOL!!  Another BR member has been appropriately "Miloed".
 
At the risk of a few BR Motiv Homers getting their panties in a wad, Motiv's apparent actions with the LE are a self inflicted shot to the foot. If in fact staffers are throwing the ball before customers are seeing their balls delivers to the doorstep, it sends a message that is extremely customer unfriendly. It makes no sense at any level I would understand.
Title: Re: Anyone Received Their Jackal LE Yet?
Post by: milorafferty on September 09, 2016, 04:48:53 PM
I just feel like those that work hard representing a company deserve certain perks over the everyday person that uses the products recreationally. And a vast majority of those getting the replacements are doing that exactly.

So in your opinion, the company exists to serve it's employees? And us peon customers should just be thankful that we are allowed to purchase their equipment at all?

For your financial sake, I hope you do not own a business.

LOL!!  Another BR member has been appropriately "Miloed".


"Thank you, thank you very much!" (typed using my best impersonation of Elvis)  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Anyone Received Their Jackal LE Yet?
Post by: Bowlaholic on September 12, 2016, 06:43:03 AM
I understand the feeling expressed here that customers should have come first. 
However, being I have Xtra Frame it gives me a chance to see the staffers throw it first.  This will help me decide to drill or sell when I receive it.  So I can live with the staffers getting their ball(s) first.
Title: Re: Anyone Received Their Jackal LE Yet?
Post by: djgook on September 12, 2016, 12:32:19 PM
This is what I do not understand. If there is know date given for those who are waiting on the LE. Why is people selling them on ebay? ( I am not a person who is waiting on a LE nor do I throw motiv) http://www.ebay.com/itm/MOTIV-JACKAL-LE-15-LB-BOWLING-BALL-NEW-NEW-NEW-TO-BE-RELEASED-SOON-/371714231548?hash=item568be50cfc:g:urEAAOSwawpXtmgB
Title: Re: Anyone Received Their Jackal LE Yet?
Post by: spmcgivern on September 12, 2016, 12:36:33 PM
The ones on ebay haven't been received by the seller most likely.  They are selling theirs when they get them.
Title: Re: Anyone Received Their Jackal LE Yet?
Post by: milorafferty on September 12, 2016, 12:44:53 PM
This is what I do not understand. If there is know date given for those who are waiting on the LE. Why is people selling them on ebay? ( I am not a person who is waiting on a LE nor do I throw motiv) http://www.ebay.com/itm/MOTIV-JACKAL-LE-15-LB-BOWLING-BALL-NEW-NEW-NEW-TO-BE-RELEASED-SOON-/371714231548?hash=item568be50cfc:g:urEAAOSwawpXtmgB

What is the known date listed?
Title: Re: Anyone Received Their Jackal LE Yet?
Post by: djgook on September 13, 2016, 11:07:55 AM
Estimated delievery date sptember 20 and 23. I asked the seller if I buy the ball today(Sept.13,2016) would I recieve the ball on the estimated dates and he/she said yes.
Title: Re: Anyone Received Their Jackal LE Yet?
Post by: Freddy on September 14, 2016, 05:13:08 AM
Still waiting for mine.  I have not received an email recently from Motiv about it.