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Equipment Boards => Motiv => Topic started by: lilpossum1 on June 30, 2015, 12:24:23 PM
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I haven't had a chance to throw it yet, but I'm excited to try it out in league tonight!
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Big, smooth arc!
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yes, smooth just like Luvswatch wrote.
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It takes surface changes very well, so don't be afraid to try something other than box finish.
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I bowl in an old house in the winter where they don't strip the lanes. I didn't have much luck with my primal rage until I sanded it down towards the end of league, so I figured I would give the forza a try
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Forza is the pin-killer in my bag right now. Very smooth and continuous through the pocket. Only time I've struggled with mine is it the front lanes are dried up and causes the Forza to check up too early. I've had alot of good results with it.
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This ball is currently anything but a pin killer. It won't finish.
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This ball is currently anything but a pin killer. It won't finish.
Likely burning up early...need more oil or less surface.
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I absolutely could not get the ball into a roll until I throw the ball almost completely end over end. Then it finally got into a roll and killed the pins. It is still the most unforgiving ball I have ever thrown. I think I am going to take it to 1000 or 2000 with polish for next week. Any thoughts?
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My PSO is a huge Motiv dealer. I inquired about a Forza a few months ago and he specifically dissuaded me from buying one. He also showed me a Forza that he was plugging and redrilling for a Motiv staff member to try and get some sort of reaction out of it as it just wasn't doing anything for the staffer.
Your plan to try 1000 or 2000 with polish is a good start. Certainly can't hurt anything!
I really like my Primal Rage (I kept it in OOB finish.) It is the first ball out of my bag, but tends to become very over/under once there is some carry down on the lanes. At that point I switch to my pin-under Columbia Antics or pin-over polished DV8 Endless Nightmare (whichever I have with me) and that gets me through the carry down.
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Mine rolls great,hooks a ton.
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I love my primal rage. It is usually the first ball out of my bag and it is wonderful on the synthetic lanes I bowl on in the summer for the first game and a half or two until the lanes dry up badly. I bought the forza for more control on the unstripped wood lanes in the winter where I think I need more control. I can't decide if I should put it in the closet and wait for the winter league or try a surface change and try to get it to work this summer.
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I didn't care for mine at the box finish and ended up polishing it lightly. At 3000+polish, it just kills the pins on a 40 ft house shot.
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I love my primal rage. It is usually the first ball out of my bag and it is wonderful on the synthetic lanes I bowl on in the summer for the first game and a half or two until the lanes dry up badly. I bought the forza for more control on the unstripped wood lanes in the winter where I think I need more control. I can't decide if I should put it in the closet and wait for the winter league or try a surface change and try to get it to work this summer.
Primal Rage for me also. It's been the first ball out of my bag ever since I bought it in the middle of fall 2014. After the Rage, it is a toss up between my Octane and Tag, depending on whether lane conditions are second shift or spotty or dry, etc. as to which ball I choose next.
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I did the steps to take my rage to 5500 lsp and my forza to 5000 lsp. I'll see how it goes next Tuesday
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It is Tuesday! I am excited to try out my polished forza tonight
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Well????
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Sorry. I forgot to repost lol. I loved it polished! I actually took the polish off with a used 4,000 pad after I few games and I still love it
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Sorry. I forgot to repost lol. I loved it polished! I actually took the polish off with a used 4,000 pad after I few games and I still love it
Glad to hear that. I'm guessing the Forza, like some other rough finished balls, react better after a break-in period (my Rumble comes to mind). If so, removing the initial polish makes sense.
My interest in the Forza is in comparison to the Optimus Solid and Devour. According to BTM's reviews these three have very similar applications, finishes, lane motions and high marks — the Devour's higher RG being a key difference.
I'm partial to Motiv, own several, and have gotten excellent league results using the Tribal Fire, which they rate as a light-to-medium oil ball with a strong back-end.
What I'm looking for is a medium-to-heavy oil ball with an early reaction — a gap in my arsenal — but most Motiv equipment is stronger than they claim. The Forza's cover is said to take very well to alterations, as your reply confirms. This relieves me a bit, because I may need to tame the ball down somewhat.
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I love my Forza. It does need oil or it will not hook the way that it can. In oil even heavy oil, the ball is a monster!!! It will be burning up without oil.
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Sorry. I forgot to repost lol. I loved it polished! I actually took the polish off with a used 4,000 pad after I few games and I still love it
I am also looking at forza, haywire and devour as my next medium/heavy ball. What were the numbers that btm gave the devour and forza for cranker and tweener for heavy and medium conditions?
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I love the forza, but I haven't really seen enough oil to use it to its full potential. My misfit has been plenty enough ball for everything I have seen this summer
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What were the numbers that btm gave the devour and forza for cranker and tweener for heavy and medium conditions?
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Attached .pdf file answers your question, but these are bare bones. The real meat is always in a given ball review. A full subscription to BTM is only $37.75, and they still offer a free trial subscription (i.e., fully refundable). BTM offers a lot more than just ball reviews. Worth every penny.
Just the same, they can't replace BallReviews' ability to exchange info, ideas and opinions between bowlers.