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Equipment Boards => Motiv => Topic started by: Motivramsey86 on August 12, 2020, 07:56:40 AM
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By Bryan Ramsey
From Phillipsburg, NJ
About Me Motiv Regional Staff, BowlerX Staff
Be ready to dominate the desert lane conditions.
What an incredible addition to the tank series, which already has some really impressive pieces. The desert tank raises the bar and takes it to a new level. I’ve put this piece on older wood lanes and it was awesome, shorter patterns it was great and of course the scorched desert conditions it dominated. I’ve fallen in love with the new Motiv addition so quickly, I can’t put it down. This would be a perfect add for any bowler who shoots on wood lanes which break down quickly or those tourney bowlers who need something for later in the blocks. Motiv continues to raise the bar in the bowling industry with every release.
#GetMotivated
#BowlerX
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Just a word of advice. A ball review actually has to contain info on what the ball does. Instead of actually going in to the review section and posting an actual review, you start a thread telling us your emotional attachment to this ball and that its "awesome in the desert".
So what does the ball actually do? What are your specs in terms of ball speed and rev rate? What layout did you put in the ball? Anybody on here can see the name "Desert Tank" and tell it is for shorter and lower volume patterns.
In the long run this is not going to help Motiv sell bowling balls. Details and results will.
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Just a word of advice. A ball review actually has to contain info on what the ball does. Instead of actually going in to the review section and posting an actual review, you start a thread telling us your emotional attachment to this ball and that its "awesome in the desert".
So what does the ball actually do? What are your specs in terms of ball speed and rev rate? What layout did you put in the ball? Anybody on here can see the name "Desert Tank" and tell it is for shorter and lower volume patterns.
In the long run this is not going to help Motiv sell bowling balls. Details and results will.
You don't think he is actually going to read any of this, do you?
Almost all of these company staffers are just drive-by posters. There are a few who aren't, but we can count them on one hand. Off the top of my head I can only think of two company staff guys who will actually read it; Luke Rosdahl and MotivMags.
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Does everyone really need to start a new topic for their review? There are, by my count, five separate topics for the Desert Tank. Especially when their “review†is just a copy-and-paste of a press release.
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Just a word of advice. A ball review actually has to contain info on what the ball does. Instead of actually going in to the review section and posting an actual review, you start a thread telling us your emotional attachment to this ball and that its "awesome in the desert".
So what does the ball actually do? What are your specs in terms of ball speed and rev rate? What layout did you put in the ball? Anybody on here can see the name "Desert Tank" and tell it is for shorter and lower volume patterns.
In the long run this is not going to help Motiv sell bowling balls. Details and results will.
You don't think he is actually going to read any of this, do you?
Almost all of these company staffers are just drive-by posters. There are a few who aren't, but we can count them on one hand. Off the top of my head I can only think of two company staff guys who will actually read it; Luke Rosdahl and MotivMags.
Hey, man! It was worth a shot I guess. I like how you used the term "drive by posters". Never really thought of it that way and kind of funny. But it makes sense. There is unfortunately a lot of this that goes on instead of actually going in to the review section. Another gentleman actually PM me right before you posted this and said thank you for saying something because it is getting old. But I guess it is something we will just have to continue to deal with.
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Just a word of advice. A ball review actually has to contain info on what the ball does. Instead of actually going in to the review section and posting an actual review, you start a thread telling us your emotional attachment to this ball and that its "awesome in the desert".
So what does the ball actually do? What are your specs in terms of ball speed and rev rate? What layout did you put in the ball? Anybody on here can see the name "Desert Tank" and tell it is for shorter and lower volume patterns.
In the long run this is not going to help Motiv sell bowling balls. Details and results will.
You don't think he is actually going to read any of this, do you?
Almost all of these company staffers are just drive-by posters. There are a few who aren't, but we can count them on one hand. Off the top of my head I can only think of two company staff guys who will actually read it; Luke Rosdahl and MotivMags.
Hey, man! It was worth a shot I guess. I like how you used the term "drive by posters". Never really thought of it that way and kind of funny. But it makes sense. There is unfortunately a lot of this that goes on instead of actually going in to the review section. Another gentleman actually PM me right before you posted this and said thank you for saying something because it is getting old. But I guess it is something we will just have to continue to deal with.
Here's the plain truth.
It's the company's fault. When staffers get a deal, part of the deal is to go out and register with several bowling sites (this one included) post a favorable review of their newest product, and send the link to their boss. For that, they get points towards their budget. Basically it's free "money" for them, and the VAST majority of them don't give a flying fornication about what you as a ballreviews member think. So when you see CompanynameFirstname posting about a ball, just ignore it.
Obviously, there are those of us that are actually, you know ... Honest. StormLuke, MotivMike, the artist formerly known as GlobalMe. It betters no one to just be a shill.
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Sorry for neglecting to mention you Doom, you ARE one of the good ones. ;D
Still can count you all on one hand.
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Sorry for neglecting to mention you Doom, you ARE one of the good ones. ;D
Still can count you all on one hand.
Oh, I'm not trying to group myself with Mags and Luke, they're rock stars and I respect their opinions (Even if Luke uses that Utah stuff lol) but ill be honest here for a minute.
Back when the Dream came out and the whole 900 Global lineup was changed because Global Foundries had been half sold to Storm and the covers had changed to 74 Response and 78 Dig (man, I hated the Moxie), I messaged Mags on Facebook. I asked him what I should put together. So that was about 2015/2016. He gave his honest opinion and I thanked him. If I had asked some shill about it, they would have tried to tell me the whole line was the bomb.
So I'll tell you what I currently see on the landscape.
To me, the Volitility and Torque look REALLY good. Like, stupid good for assyms. I'm upset I didn't get one. Aspect looks very Moxie Truthy. Really slow downlane. Meh. Afterburner, you can't go wrong with that core unless you majorly screw up the cover. Revival, I don't know... The OG HB was good enough, and they probably had to make a revival because nothing from SA got carried over.
Right now, I have nothing in the bag (literally, I have a Rogue Assassin nib waiting for me in my closet), and will probably buy too many Motiv balls at first because a majority of them look good. Alpha, Ghost, Flash, Nemesis, Fire, Assassin, Supra, Shock, Covert, Blitz, Desert, new Thrill... They all look good. And I'll give you my honest opinion as always. If I ever become a shill, I give northface permission to come out to my neck of the woods, beat me about the head and neck and video it all for your entertainment.
One other thing. In the 18 months I was on staff, I never sent a link to my boss to get "credit" not did I ever fluff anything. That isn't my gig, never will be. My integrity is worth more than some credit towards some bowling stuff from any company.
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One other thing. In the 18 months I was on staff, I never sent a link to my boss to get "credit" not did I ever fluff anything. That isn't my gig, never will be. My integrity is worth more than some credit towards some bowling stuff from any company.
And that's why we really appreciate you here, Doom.
FWIW, got some games on my desert today, and i'll preface with out of the box it looked and felt like it was 500 grit, so I took it (as well as my Covert and Blitz) that all have the same layouts and hit them with 1000-2000-3000 grits to make sure the covers acted the same.
Blitz was a good 5 board with my feet stronger to the same break point, the Desert and Covert actually allowed me to stand in the same spot looking at the same thing, with the Covert being much more round (that core is strong and flares a ton in it), while the desert went a bit longer and changed direction a bit more.
I hate to use the comparison, but a lot of people ask, the Desert shapes the most like a Purple Hammer visually, strength wise, I won't go that far, and I only tossed it for a bit this evening. Hoping to catch a fresh pair and be by myself on Saturday so I can get some video of all three MCP balls.
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Not a staffer. But lemme take a shot at this....
Alright guys. Have to say. First things first. Just wow. Look at this thing. First thing I notice about the ball is that it’s round. Like really round. It’s crucial to be this round to get to the pins. But last that, it’s GOLD!!!! Not like real gold, but gold color. It’s beautiful. But what really stands out about it? The logo man, it’s jet black, it’s got the iconic tank logo in jet black man. It’s amazing. And it’s got a little cute circle on it that’s also black. And you put your finger holes near it, if you use finger grips, I’d suggest black to really crush those pins. And the name Desert is in the title. Deserts are dry, so this is your go to piece when the lanes are dry, because people refer to dry lanes as a desert, and desert is in the name of the ball. So if you’re needing a dry lane ball, because desert is in the title, this is obviously your ball. And I’m he word tank is also in the title, because it hits like a tank. So it’ll crush pins on a dry lane. This is a must have for dry lanes when you wanna crush pins!!!!
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Not a staffer. But lemme take a shot at this....
Alright guys. Have to say. First things first. Just wow. Look at this thing. First thing I notice about the ball is that it’s round. Like really round. It’s crucial to be this round to get to the pins. But last that, it’s GOLD!!!! Not like real gold, but gold color. It’s beautiful. But what really stands out about it? The logo man, it’s jet black, it’s got the iconic tank logo in jet black man. It’s amazing. And it’s got a little cute circle on it that’s also black. And you put your finger holes near it, if you use finger grips, I’d suggest black to really crush those pins. And the name Desert is in the title. Deserts are dry, so this is your go to piece when the lanes are dry, because people refer to dry lanes as a desert, and desert is in the name of the ball. So if you’re needing a dry lane ball, because desert is in the title, this is obviously your ball. And I’m he word tank is also in the title, because it hits like a tank. So it’ll crush pins on a dry lane. This is a must have for dry lanes when you wanna crush pins!!!!
Clearly I should have bought one instead of the Boo-Yah Pro, which says right in the ball name you have to be a Pro to use :-\
(yeah I'm not getting any coupons or store credit from 900G anytime soon for that one ;D)
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Not a staffer. But lemme take a shot at this....
Alright guys. Have to say. First things first. Just wow. Look at this thing. First thing I notice about the ball is that it’s round. Like really round. It’s crucial to be this round to get to the pins. But last that, it’s GOLD!!!! Not like real gold, but gold color. It’s beautiful. But what really stands out about it? The logo man, it’s jet black, it’s got the iconic tank logo in jet black man. It’s amazing. And it’s got a little cute circle on it that’s also black. And you put your finger holes near it, if you use finger grips, I’d suggest black to really crush those pins. And the name Desert is in the title. Deserts are dry, so this is your go to piece when the lanes are dry, because people refer to dry lanes as a desert, and desert is in the name of the ball. So if you’re needing a dry lane ball, because desert is in the title, this is obviously your ball. And I’m he word tank is also in the title, because it hits like a tank. So it’ll crush pins on a dry lane. This is a must have for dry lanes when you wanna crush pins!!!!
Sign this man to a lifetime staffer contract!
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Not a staffer. But lemme take a shot at this....
Alright guys. Have to say. First things first. Just wow. Look at this thing. First thing I notice about the ball is that it’s round. Like really round. It’s crucial to be this round to get to the pins. But last that, it’s GOLD!!!! Not like real gold, but gold color. It’s beautiful. But what really stands out about it? The logo man, it’s jet black, it’s got the iconic tank logo in jet black man. It’s amazing. And it’s got a little cute circle on it that’s also black. And you put your finger holes near it, if you use finger grips, I’d suggest black to really crush those pins. And the name Desert is in the title. Deserts are dry, so this is your go to piece when the lanes are dry, because people refer to dry lanes as a desert, and desert is in the name of the ball. So if you’re needing a dry lane ball, because desert is in the title, this is obviously your ball. And I’m he word tank is also in the title, because it hits like a tank. So it’ll crush pins on a dry lane. This is a must have for dry lanes when you wanna crush pins!!!!
Clearly I should have bought one instead of the Boo-Yah Pro, which says right in the ball name you have to be a Pro to use :-\
(yeah I'm not getting any coupons or store credit from 900G anytime soon for that one ;D)
Not only do you have to be a pro... it’s booing you... it’s in the name.
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Not a staffer. But lemme take a shot at this....
Alright guys. Have to say. First things first. Just wow. Look at this thing. First thing I notice about the ball is that it’s round. Like really round. It’s crucial to be this round to get to the pins. But last that, it’s GOLD!!!! Not like real gold, but gold color. It’s beautiful. But what really stands out about it? The logo man, it’s jet black, it’s got the iconic tank logo in jet black man. It’s amazing. And it’s got a little cute circle on it that’s also black. And you put your finger holes near it, if you use finger grips, I’d suggest black to really crush those pins. And the name Desert is in the title. Deserts are dry, so this is your go to piece when the lanes are dry, because people refer to dry lanes as a desert, and desert is in the name of the ball. So if you’re needing a dry lane ball, because desert is in the title, this is obviously your ball. And I’m he word tank is also in the title, because it hits like a tank. So it’ll crush pins on a dry lane. This is a must have for dry lanes when you wanna crush pins!!!!
Sign this man to a lifetime staffer contract!
I kinda wanna have fun with it and do more of them lol
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https://www.ballreviews.com/columbia-300-126/messenger-titanium-light-weight/
That's how you have fun
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“I’m like a rich mans Keanu Revs with this pieceâ€
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Not a staffer. But lemme take a shot at this....
Alright guys. Have to say. First things first. Just wow. Look at this thing. First thing I notice about the ball is that it’s round. Like really round. It’s crucial to be this round to get to the pins. But last that, it’s GOLD!!!! Not like real gold, but gold color. It’s beautiful. But what really stands out about it? The logo man, it’s jet black, it’s got the iconic tank logo in jet black man. It’s amazing. And it’s got a little cute circle on it that’s also black. And you put your finger holes near it, if you use finger grips, I’d suggest black to really crush those pins. And the name Desert is in the title. Deserts are dry, so this is your go to piece when the lanes are dry, because people refer to dry lanes as a desert, and desert is in the name of the ball. So if you’re needing a dry lane ball, because desert is in the title, this is obviously your ball. And I’m he word tank is also in the title, because it hits like a tank. So it’ll crush pins on a dry lane. This is a must have for dry lanes when you wanna crush pins!!!!
#blackgripsmatter
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https://www.ballreviews.com/columbia-300-126/messenger-titanium-light-weight/
That's how you have fun
I always enjoyed the reviews by Phillip Marlowe like the one in the link below, reply #16.
https://www.ballreviews.com/dyno-thane-127/the-thing-returns/15/
Whatever happened to him? He stopped posting in 2007.
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In case that link is bad, here is his review of The Thing Returns:
The clock on the wall and the dark outside my window, told me "Phillip, go home, its 12:30 a.m." But with a bank account balance just this side of absolute zero, I couldn't bring myself to even go out for a cup of Myrtle's Grill coffee. At precisely 12:31, he came into the office. A small man, with narrow eyes and a cold cut nose, he said he had tried to call earlier. He wanted to hire me. He wanted me to investigate a mysterious Thing that had Returned ... to find out what it was and why it had invaded his place, "Flash Finish Lanes and Grill." He paid me two days' fee in advance. I went to Myrtle's bought a cup of joe and went to bed feeling rich.
I went to the Pro Shop at Flash Finish and picked up two 15 pound examples of these "Thing Returns" eggs, drilled 5x4 and 4x5. It was pearlized, crayola deep orange and the purple you find only in bowling balls and neon signs outside of pool halls. The cover was supposed to soak up oil like the Swifter cleans linoleum tile and to be cleaner than Pine Sol and stronger than a double gin gimlet. I tried it on house tapers, light through medium heavy and a variety of sport and "pro" conditions to see why it had returned. I kept good notes so I could give my client -- the one who paid me for two days' work in advance and promised more upon completion of the investigation -- a report, unencumbered by poor memory or lack of booze.
1. Length. On anything from light to medium plus oil, this one went down the lane like a one-man sled. Absolutely clean to the breakpoint even on spotty conditions, it did not overskid when it hit the dry, changing directions smoothly, like Velma hearing Moose was coming to see her. On heavy oil, well, it just kept going. But if there was a dry area after the heads and midlanes, it went left.
2. How did it move? Strong, hard and pretty, like Chyna in black leather at a cage match. There were no flying Wallenda flips, just a hard, smooth arc, tracing the beginning of a parabola that, if you saw it on a dame -- like maybe Raquel -- would cause Cardiac arrest in a llama. For a pearl, it shrugged off carrydown surprisingly well.
3. How much did it move? A lot. For the conditions and its place in the arsenal, a Heidi Fleiss type hooker. I immediately ordered two double Jack's and Diet Cokes to make sure I wasn't seeing things. I wasn't. Big mover for a medium light ball. I never saw it rollout.
4. How did it hit? Dresden. Tokyo. Hiroshima. The Thing Returns. Light, pins flew around like Dorothy's house. Heavy, fours fall like Apollo Creed in Rocky IV and if there is a problem it is stone oblisks bearing "8" and "9". Very good. Real Good. Almost as good as my gin gimlet. Almost.
5. What kind of control did it give me? As predictable as a banker's hours -- and no less precise. Miss left and Miss Right...well I had some of each of those dames. Speed sensitive but not rev sensitive, you felt you like you could be a little rough with her, Maddy Ross style, and still get a reasonable result.
6. What is the overall report of the investigation? I know why the Thing Returns. Because folks like it. Predictable, versatile, a looker and useful in a range of roles -- like Jane Fonda withouth the irritating personality. Everyone can use one. My client bought one on my recommendation. I got an extra day's pay as a bonus. Whooppee.
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