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Re: ** ASCENT SOLID ** VIDEO "Coming at you"
« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2012, 04:21:34 AM »
I thought from the first ball in the video, I was like good lord, the mids are flying!! But overall good video. Still kind of a mind-boggler to me why they released it @ 1000 wet sand. And the 3" from PAP, what were you intending to do? Anything less than 3.375" is going towards pin-axis. Overall though, you throw it well. Props!
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Re: ** ASCENT SOLID ** VIDEO "Coming at you"
« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2012, 07:36:51 AM »
I can imagine the 3" pin is to get the ball started earlier for the THS he bowls on. The 65* drill angle and 60* VAL should make the ball playable when the lanes dry out. With Motiv, i find that strong drill work well drilling them long and weak, unless you have a boat load of hand, makes them a bit squirty. Just my observation. Great ball throwing Leto!
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Re: ** ASCENT SOLID ** VIDEO "Coming at you"
« Reply #3 on: August 01, 2012, 11:28:19 AM »
I know dual angles and why he went short on the distance, I was just surprised as I don't see really anything less than 3.375" pin to PAP. All of my layouts are 40-80* X 3.5-6.375" X 25-55*/etc.. I do see he has a low track and lots of ball speed so I can understand why he went so short on the distance.
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Re: ** ASCENT SOLID ** VIDEO "Coming at you"
« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2012, 08:56:32 PM »
Justin "Wi" gave me the layout. He does all the videos for Motiv. To be honest, I am new to the dual angle and didn't think anything of it when he told me to be at 3". It has a fairly low rg diff so I went with a stronger drill to compensate. Can't really drill to skid/flip bc ball is more continuous/smooth than flippy. Thanks for the compliments. I have recently got back into bowling after about an 8 year break. Like riding a bike.

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Re: ** ASCENT SOLID ** VIDEO "Coming at you"
« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2012, 11:37:00 PM »
3" pin on a symmetrical ball is going to maximize flare. He wanted more of the ball to touch the lane thereby getting the ball to start up. The 65*/60*, 65* is probably because you have a low tilt, and 60* because you'll be using it on drier patterns and you wont need the ball to hook a load on the back.
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Re: ** ASCENT SOLID ** VIDEO "Coming at you"
« Reply #6 on: August 08, 2012, 10:06:58 PM »
3.375" is what I've been taught is the shortest length of "maximizing flare". Just what I've had experience with. It's not like it honestly matters to me as I will never have such short distances because of such a high track and anything less than 3.5" pin to PAP puts CG 4"+ from grip center and "legality" with static weights becomes an issue.
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Re: ** ASCENT SOLID ** VIDEO "Coming at you"
« Reply #7 on: August 09, 2012, 04:13:00 PM »
Man, you're making that ball dizzy with all that rev ;D
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