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Title: Introducing the New Venom Recoil!
Post by: stormed1 on February 14, 2019, 08:44:08 PM


World Wide Release Date: 3/20/19

Venom Recoil

COLOR: Orange/Orange Solid
COVERSTOCK: Coercionâ„¢ MFS Reactive
CORE: Gearâ„¢ APG
FINISH: 4000 Grit LSS
LANE CONDITION: Light - Medium Oil
REACTION: Smooth w/ Later Break
WEIGHTS: 12-16 lbs.
Title: Re: Introducing the New Venom Recoil!
Post by: tkkshop on February 14, 2019, 08:52:03 PM
This ball has internal diff! Should be a little more angular than the Shock without really being longer.
Title: Re: Introducing the New Venom Recoil!
Post by: Average Joe Reviews on February 15, 2019, 12:16:50 AM
Correct me if I am wrong, but I think this is the first asymmetrical ball not only in the Venom line, but also the first asymmetrical ball in the low-mid price range from Motiv...

This release will be more than interesting! Being a huge fan of the Shock, I am intrigued on how this one will compare to the rest of the line.

We shall see.
Title: Re: Introducing the New Venom Recoil!
Post by: milorafferty on February 15, 2019, 12:56:37 AM
Interesting, I wanted a strong solid cover on the Cobra and Shock Pearl core, but this might do the trick.

If it comes out on March 20th, I should have one in my hands by March 5th or 6th. And you know I will be buying one...
Title: Re: Introducing the New Venom Recoil!
Post by: scotts33 on February 15, 2019, 06:10:30 AM
15 lb. numbers.

Core: Gearâ„¢ APG - NEW!
R.G.: 2.47
Diff.: .036
Int. Diff: .013

Same cover as the T10 and OG Villain.  I like it and will get one to work off of the beloved Shock!
Title: Re: Introducing the New Venom Recoil!
Post by: daves123 on February 15, 2019, 07:51:05 AM
So do you think this might have a reaction similar to the loved OG honey badger?
Title: Re: Introducing the New Venom Recoil!
Post by: SVstar34 on February 15, 2019, 09:29:22 AM
15 lb. numbers.

Core: Gearâ„¢ APG - NEW!
R.G.: 2.47
Diff.: .036
Int. Diff: .013

Same cover as the T10 and OG Villain.  I like it and will get one to work off of the beloved Shock!

Wow. I want this. This has benchmark written all over it for me

Mid-low int. Diff has been a winner for me
Title: Re: Introducing the New Venom Recoil!
Post by: AlonzoHarris on February 15, 2019, 11:33:21 AM
I get they use Venom series naming for marketing since the line is successful for the most part. But it's not the same core... I guess 900G did this with the Badger line also, but I also questioned that naming convention/series choice as well.
Title: Re: Introducing the New Venom Recoil!
Post by: themagician on February 15, 2019, 11:59:19 AM
I get they use Venom series naming for marketing since the line is successful for the most part. But it's not the same core... I guess 900G did this with the Badger line also, but I also questioned that naming convention/series choice as well.

Marketing is a tricky thing, guess they look at it as a shape and condition thing is similar in the end result of the ball, and the core is a modified version of the original Venom line balls, so it's not too much of a stretch.

Rambling done, i'm excited about this one and will probably pick it up, last few balls i've gotten have been from Utah and EBI after being on the Motiv only wagon for a couple years.
Title: Re: Introducing the New Venom Recoil!
Post by: BowlingForDonuts on February 15, 2019, 12:11:08 PM
I get they use Venom series naming for marketing since the line is successful for the most part. But it's not the same core... I guess 900G did this with the Badger line also, but I also questioned that naming convention/series choice as well.

Marketing is a tricky thing, guess they look at it as a shape and condition thing is similar in the end result of the ball, and the core is a modified version of the original Venom line balls, so it's not too much of a stretch.

Rambling done, i'm excited about this one and will probably pick it up, last few balls i've gotten have been from Utah and EBI after being on the Motiv only wagon for a couple years.

Might be why they made the ball look so much like the Panic to avoid being accused of slapping a snake face on any ole ball.  Still looking forward to seeing videos.
Title: Re: Introducing the New Venom Recoil!
Post by: 2handedrook12 on February 15, 2019, 12:22:14 PM
They have me interested! I like what they are doing with this one.
Title: Re: Introducing the New Venom Recoil!
Post by: milorafferty on February 15, 2019, 12:51:34 PM
I get they use Venom series naming for marketing since the line is successful for the most part. But it's not the same core... I guess 900G did this with the Badger line also, but I also questioned that naming convention/series choice as well.

Motiv has done this several times now, and I agree, should be a different line. Hammer did it with the Black Widow line(only once if I recall).

Motiv had the Primal TV4, which used the Thrust Core, but the Primal Impulse had a completely different core shape which is still being used in the Primal series today.

They also did it with the Forza line with the original Forza, Forza Redline and Forza GT having the same core, then the Forza SS used the Sigma core. Seems to me that makes it NOT a Forza.
Title: Re: Introducing the New Venom Recoil!
Post by: leftybowler70 on February 15, 2019, 01:17:00 PM
Don’t forget guys, the staffers will be here to say that this is the best venom EVER, and it’s a MUST HAVE!!!
Title: Re: Introducing the New Venom Recoil!
Post by: AlonzoHarris on February 15, 2019, 02:02:41 PM
I get they use Venom series naming for marketing since the line is successful for the most part. But it's not the same core... I guess 900G did this with the Badger line also, but I also questioned that naming convention/series choice as well.

Motiv has done this several times now, and I agree, should be a different line. Hammer did it with the Black Widow line(only once if I recall).

Motiv had the Primal TV4, which used the Thrust Core, but the Primal Impulse had a completely different core shape which is still being used in the Primal series today.

They also did it with the Forza line with the original Forza, Forza Redline and Forza GT having the same core, then the Forza SS used the Sigma core. Seems to me that makes it NOT a Forza.

Oh good catches Milo. Yeah I find it an odd approach myself.
Title: Re: Introducing the New Venom Recoil!
Post by: tkkshop on February 15, 2019, 02:54:44 PM
From my understanding, it is a Venom that prepares us for the no weight hole rules. The motion we love out of the Venom Shock, but without the hole to get the extra umph needed.

Also, the Venom Cobra and VSP use a different core than the other Venoms. The Octane Carbon had a different core than the other Octanes. The Golden Jackal uses the 3rd different core in the Jackal series. I guess it's a marketing thing.
Title: Re: Introducing the New Venom Recoil!
Post by: BowlingForDonuts on February 15, 2019, 04:43:54 PM
Don’t forget guys, the staffers will be here to say that this is the best venom EVER, and it’s a MUST HAVE!!!

Some things are as constant as the tides and as impossible to hold back.  But who knows with this ball might be a broken clock being right kind of deal.  We shall see.
Title: Re: Introducing the New Venom Recoil!
Post by: Bowlaholic on February 16, 2019, 07:15:20 AM
EJ Tackett was throwing the Venom Revolt in the third round of match play yesterday at the Player's Championship.
Ball looked impressive, but then just about any ball looks impressive when thrown by EJ.
I'll wait for reviews from Tamer or Angel before deciding about this release.
Title: Re: Introducing the New Venom Recoil!
Post by: leftybowler70 on February 16, 2019, 08:02:24 AM
^^
Title: Re: Introducing the New Venom Recoil!
Post by: Average Joe Reviews on February 17, 2019, 12:50:03 AM
EJ Tackett was throwing the Venom Revolt in the third round of match play yesterday at the Player's Championship.
Ball looked impressive, but then just about any ball looks impressive when thrown by EJ.
I'll wait for reviews from Tamer or Angel before deciding about this release.

EJ can throw a coconut and make it look good lol 😂

On a serious note, this ball has me intrigued for sure... It will be interesting how much difference we will see between the Recoil and the Shock. We will have the review ready in a couple of weeks (hopefully less)