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Jackal flash
« on: July 30, 2020, 11:31:28 AM »
On the way

 

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Re: Jackal flash
« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2020, 07:39:23 PM »
Yup, hope it's better than the Nemesis (IMO as much as i'm a huge Motiv fan, they really haven't figured out the high end pearl asymmetric thing yet)

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Re: Jackal flash
« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2020, 07:57:24 PM »
So what was the ball that EJ used besides the Shock against Simonsen recently? It was red/blue and I couldn't get a clear picture of the logo

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Re: Jackal flash
« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2020, 08:13:00 PM »
So what was the ball that EJ used besides the Shock against Simonsen recently? It was red/blue and I couldn't get a clear picture of the logo

The VIP. And it was on the approved ball list. Then taken down

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Re: Jackal flash
« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2020, 08:18:28 PM »
So what was the ball that EJ used besides the Shock against Simonsen recently? It was red/blue and I couldn't get a clear picture of the logo

Said VIP.

I personally wanted this ball. Infusion with the V2 core. There was something about the v3 core that didn't look nearly as good as the V2. Hope it's stateside.

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Re: Jackal flash
« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2020, 08:52:09 AM »
So what was the ball that EJ used besides the Shock against Simonsen recently? It was red/blue and I couldn't get a clear picture of the logo

Said VIP.

I personally wanted this ball. Infusion with the V2 core. There was something about the v3 core that didn't look nearly as good as the V2. Hope it's stateside.

The VIP is an EJ signature ball to be announced soon. Not sure if was just layouts or what but it looked like it rolled a lot more forward than his Venom Shock on TV and weaker. Shape looked a lot like the Sigma core, so we'll see.

And I agree on the Predator V2 being better than V3 in shape, but I just am not sold on the Nemesis cover that is on the new Jackal, the Nemesis for me and the three others we drilled them for is not much of at all stronger than the Supra.

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Re: Jackal flash
« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2020, 10:11:22 AM »
Hopefully they tweak the formula to not be as squirty.

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Re: Jackal flash
« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2020, 11:32:41 AM »
So what was the ball that EJ used besides the Shock against Simonsen recently? It was red/blue and I couldn't get a clear picture of the logo

Said VIP.

I personally wanted this ball. Infusion with the V2 core. There was something about the v3 core that didn't look nearly as good as the V2. Hope it's stateside.

The VIP is an EJ signature ball to be announced soon. Not sure if was just layouts or what but it looked like it rolled a lot more forward than his Venom Shock on TV and weaker. Shape looked a lot like the Sigma core, so we'll see.

And I agree on the Predator V2 being better than V3 in shape, but I just am not sold on the Nemesis cover that is on the new Jackal, the Nemesis for me and the three others we drilled them for is not much of at all stronger than the Supra.

OOOF, Belmo took the timeless out first time and won with it... not a good start to EJs signature line if thats the case

by the way, i think signature lines for pro bowlers are goofy... maybe i'm just correlating it to pro athletes and signature shoes... but yeah, imagining somebody walking into a bowling alley in their jordans or lebrons, and then throwing a belmo or EJ ball.... something seems off

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Re: Jackal flash
« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2020, 11:51:06 AM »
So what was the ball that EJ used besides the Shock against Simonsen recently? It was red/blue and I couldn't get a clear picture of the logo

Said VIP.

I personally wanted this ball. Infusion with the V2 core. There was something about the v3 core that didn't look nearly as good as the V2. Hope it's stateside.

The VIP is an EJ signature ball to be announced soon. Not sure if was just layouts or what but it looked like it rolled a lot more forward than his Venom Shock on TV and weaker. Shape looked a lot like the Sigma core, so we'll see.

And I agree on the Predator V2 being better than V3 in shape, but I just am not sold on the Nemesis cover that is on the new Jackal, the Nemesis for me and the three others we drilled them for is not much of at all stronger than the Supra.

OOOF, Belmo took the timeless out first time and won with it... not a good start to EJs signature line if thats the case

by the way, i think signature lines for pro bowlers are goofy... maybe i'm just correlating it to pro athletes and signature shoes... but yeah, imagining somebody walking into a bowling alley in their jordans or lebrons, and then throwing a belmo or EJ ball.... something seems off
Meanwhile, the Timeless was an ABSOLUTE dud.  ::)

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Re: Jackal flash
« Reply #9 on: July 31, 2020, 12:44:30 PM »
So what was the ball that EJ used besides the Shock against Simonsen recently? It was red/blue and I couldn't get a clear picture of the logo

Said VIP.

I personally wanted this ball. Infusion with the V2 core. There was something about the v3 core that didn't look nearly as good as the V2. Hope it's stateside.

The VIP is an EJ signature ball to be announced soon. Not sure if was just layouts or what but it looked like it rolled a lot more forward than his Venom Shock on TV and weaker. Shape looked a lot like the Sigma core, so we'll see.

And I agree on the Predator V2 being better than V3 in shape, but I just am not sold on the Nemesis cover that is on the new Jackal, the Nemesis for me and the three others we drilled them for is not much of at all stronger than the Supra.

Question: how did you lay them out? Also, surface tweaks at all? Seems like the first run was really squirty and needed the polish knocked off.

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Re: Jackal flash
« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2020, 02:51:13 PM »
So what was the ball that EJ used besides the Shock against Simonsen recently? It was red/blue and I couldn't get a clear picture of the logo

Said VIP.

I personally wanted this ball. Infusion with the V2 core. There was something about the v3 core that didn't look nearly as good as the V2. Hope it's stateside.

The VIP is an EJ signature ball to be announced soon. Not sure if was just layouts or what but it looked like it rolled a lot more forward than his Venom Shock on TV and weaker. Shape looked a lot like the Sigma core, so we'll see.

And I agree on the Predator V2 being better than V3 in shape, but I just am not sold on the Nemesis cover that is on the new Jackal, the Nemesis for me and the three others we drilled them for is not much of at all stronger than the Supra.

OOOF, Belmo took the timeless out first time and won with it... not a good start to EJs signature line if thats the case

by the way, i think signature lines for pro bowlers are goofy... maybe i'm just correlating it to pro athletes and signature shoes... but yeah, imagining somebody walking into a bowling alley in their jordans or lebrons, and then throwing a belmo or EJ ball.... something seems off
Meanwhile, the Timeless was an ABSOLUTE dud.  ::)

and the drive.  the pro motion has popularity but probably not as much as a high priced point ball should.  and i can see the trend being similar...

its funny, his name is on it, yet he hardly throws them...  maybe we'll see him with the trend and pro motion more when he comes back to bowling PBA... but still, its hard seeing a signature ball not being thrown...

reminds of the story where Jordan had on his latest model jordan, wore them from a quarter, then switched to an older pair because the new model was uncomfortable to him

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Re: Jackal flash
« Reply #11 on: August 01, 2020, 09:38:39 AM »
I hope it's the qz1/thrash/octane core...

He liked the octane
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Re: Jackal flash
« Reply #12 on: August 01, 2020, 11:17:34 AM »
So what was the ball that EJ used besides the Shock against Simonsen recently? It was red/blue and I couldn't get a clear picture of the logo

Said VIP.

I personally wanted this ball. Infusion with the V2 core. There was something about the v3 core that didn't look nearly as good as the V2. Hope it's stateside.

The VIP is an EJ signature ball to be announced soon. Not sure if was just layouts or what but it looked like it rolled a lot more forward than his Venom Shock on TV and weaker. Shape looked a lot like the Sigma core, so we'll see.

And I agree on the Predator V2 being better than V3 in shape, but I just am not sold on the Nemesis cover that is on the new Jackal, the Nemesis for me and the three others we drilled them for is not much of at all stronger than the Supra.

Question: how did you lay them out? Also, surface tweaks at all? Seems like the first run was really squirty and needed the polish knocked off.

Surface adjustments have been made on them for sure, and they helped a bit, but the cover just isn't strong enough IMO for what it was intended to be.

Layout wise gets a bit down the rabbit hole, but for mine specifically I used the same layout as I have on my Golden Jackal, Jackal Ghost and Trident Quest (RIP Quest), and the other balls all have done as expected. Can't win them all, and definitely not trying to root against the Flash, but definitely saying I won't be the first in my area to buy one.

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Re: Jackal flash
« Reply #13 on: August 01, 2020, 11:50:30 AM »
I hope it's the qz1/thrash/octane core...

He liked the octane

Didn't look like an Octane shape to me

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Re: Jackal flash
« Reply #14 on: August 01, 2020, 11:53:21 AM »
So what was the ball that EJ used besides the Shock against Simonsen recently? It was red/blue and I couldn't get a clear picture of the logo

Said VIP.

I personally wanted this ball. Infusion with the V2 core. There was something about the v3 core that didn't look nearly as good as the V2. Hope it's stateside.

The VIP is an EJ signature ball to be announced soon. Not sure if was just layouts or what but it looked like it rolled a lot more forward than his Venom Shock on TV and weaker. Shape looked a lot like the Sigma core, so we'll see.

And I agree on the Predator V2 being better than V3 in shape, but I just am not sold on the Nemesis cover that is on the new Jackal, the Nemesis for me and the three others we drilled them for is not much of at all stronger than the Supra.

Question: how did you lay them out? Also, surface tweaks at all? Seems like the first run was really squirty and needed the polish knocked off.

Surface adjustments have been made on them for sure, and they helped a bit, but the cover just isn't strong enough IMO for what it was intended to be.

Layout wise gets a bit down the rabbit hole, but for mine specifically I used the same layout as I have on my Golden Jackal, Jackal Ghost and Trident Quest (RIP Quest), and the other balls all have done as expected. Can't win them all, and definitely not trying to root against the Flash, but definitely saying I won't be the first in my area to buy one.

From what I've seen, smaller val angles made the ball very sensitive. If you watch Jeff Piroodshads Nemesis review, his pin down rolled light years better than the pin up