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Title: Motiv Venom Shock PEARL?
Post by: billdozer on January 10, 2018, 03:22:34 PM
Saw on FB that it's coming?
Title: Re: Motiv Venom Shock PEARL?
Post by: HackJandy on January 10, 2018, 03:29:05 PM
Love my Venom Shock but its already on the weak side for my low revs.  Wonder how new ball will compare to the Cobra or the Panic.
Title: Re: Motiv Venom Shock PEARL?
Post by: tkkshop on January 10, 2018, 03:57:10 PM
Feb 21st I believe. Hexion Pearl.
Title: Re: Motiv Venom Shock PEARL?
Post by: leftybowler70 on January 10, 2018, 04:05:27 PM
Hmmm 🤔
Title: Re: Motiv Venom Shock PEARL?
Post by: batbowler on January 10, 2018, 04:22:44 PM
Hexion Pearl coverstock is the same as the Trident Quest cover!
Title: Re: Motiv Venom Shock PEARL?
Post by: spmcgivern on January 10, 2018, 04:47:55 PM
At this point, calling it the Venom Shock Pearl is probably only for marketing reasons.  There have been Gear core pearls in the past (Venom Panic).   

I can't see how putting Hexion Pearl on the Gear core makes a Venom Shock Pearl.  It will probably be a couple steps away from the rest of the Venom series balls.

Doesn't mean I don't like the combination, just odd marketing.
Title: Re: Motiv Venom Shock PEARL?
Post by: tkkshop on January 10, 2018, 05:23:28 PM
Top Gear core from what I was told. So it's not exactly a Panic. It's purple too.
Title: Re: Motiv Venom Shock PEARL?
Post by: milorafferty on January 10, 2018, 05:36:35 PM
I love, love, love the Venom Cobra, so a new ball with that core is good news to me. But it might also mean the Venom Cobra is soon to be discontinued, so I will have to grab an extra one.
Title: Re: Motiv Venom Shock PEARL?
Post by: Walking E on January 10, 2018, 05:45:22 PM
At this point, calling it the Venom Shock Pearl is probably only for marketing reasons.  There have been Gear core pearls in the past (Venom Panic).   

I can't see how putting Hexion Pearl on the Gear core makes a Venom Shock Pearl.  It will probably be a couple steps away from the rest of the Venom series balls.

Doesn't mean I don't like the combination, just odd marketing.

It seems a bit late to the party but it seems like good marketing. The Shock is still very highly regarded and still thrown a ton in leagues. I think the purple color is much more marketable than the Panic's hideous orange hue. I expect to see a lot of them being thrown after the ball's release.
Title: Re: Motiv Venom Shock PEARL?
Post by: Snakster on January 10, 2018, 06:48:13 PM
At this point, calling it the Venom Shock Pearl is probably only for marketing reasons.  There have been Gear core pearls in the past (Venom Panic).   

I can't see how putting Hexion Pearl on the Gear core makes a Venom Shock Pearl.  It will probably be a couple steps away from the rest of the Venom series balls.

Doesn't mean I don't like the combination, just odd marketing.

It’s basically what storm did with the Hyroad.  The Hy in Hyroad was for hybrid (right?).  But it then was the ‘legendary’ ball in the Road series. So then we got Hyroad pearl, Hyroad solid. Hyroad Nano.  It’s not the first time the popularity (and name) of a particular ball was leveraged to try to sell a new ball.
Title: Re: Motiv Venom Shock PEARL?
Post by: tkkshop on January 11, 2018, 12:09:06 AM
It will have the Hexion MFP cover. So a new, weaker version of the Quest. Color scheme is similar to the Paronia. Purple with green logos.
Title: Re: Motiv Venom Shock PEARL?
Post by: spmcgivern on January 11, 2018, 08:10:08 AM
It will have the Hexion MFP cover. So a new, weaker version of the Quest. Color scheme is similar to the Paronia. Purple with green logos.

This is what I figured would happen.  Much like the different levels of Helix (Helix=Forza Redline, HFP=United Revolt, SFP=Octane Burn) among others Motiv has had.
Title: Re: Motiv Venom Shock PEARL?
Post by: Freddy on January 11, 2018, 09:18:22 AM
What is the difference between this and the Panic?  Not a fan of the Panic. 
Title: Re: Motiv Venom Shock PEARL?
Post by: spmcgivern on January 11, 2018, 09:39:24 AM
What is the difference between this and the Panic?  Not a fan of the Panic. 

Venom Panic = Old crappy Motiv.

Everything after Primal Rage = better Motiv.
Title: Re: Motiv Venom Shock PEARL?
Post by: Freddy on January 11, 2018, 09:41:08 AM
I do agree!!!! stuff before the Rage for me was not too good!! 
Title: Re: Motiv Venom Shock PEARL?
Post by: scotts33 on January 11, 2018, 09:59:42 AM
What is the difference between this and the Panic?  Not a fan of the Panic. 

Top Gear weight block and Hexion MFP cover would be the two differences I can see and color.  I see it closer to the Venom Cobra polished hybrid same weight block than the Panic.  I also did not have much success with the Panic but love the Shock.  Shock IMO is the best manufactured ball Motiv has made.
Title: Re: Motiv Venom Shock PEARL?
Post by: JazlarVonSteich on January 11, 2018, 10:02:40 AM
What is the difference between this and the Panic?  Not a fan of the Panic. 

Venom Panic = Old crappy Motiv.

Everything after Primal Rage = better Motiv.

Venom Panic came out after the Primal Rage. I believe Toxin and Strike were only Venoms released before - and I found both to be good balls. Panic was probably the worst of the series though.
Title: Re: Motiv Venom Shock PEARL?
Post by: lilpossum1 on January 11, 2018, 10:12:24 AM
I still can't find where you guys found this ball on Facebook. Any tips?
Title: Re: Motiv Venom Shock PEARL?
Post by: themagician on January 11, 2018, 10:18:03 AM
I still can't find where you guys found this ball on Facebook. Any tips?

The posts got deleted as the information was "leaked" When the PBA picks up again here soon you'll see all sorts of stuff come out, the Pros will have them and likely another release during the PBA events coming up end of the month and in February

Motiv is trying to keep it quiet as to not ruin the hype around the Jackal Rising release.
Title: Re: Motiv Venom Shock PEARL?
Post by: JazlarVonSteich on January 11, 2018, 10:34:11 AM
All I know is that this will make me finally get a Shock in 14, along with this new ball. Should fill the hole in my line up that I can't find from Storm/RG - because them, Radical, and some others think we only want balls that hook a ton.
Title: Re: Motiv Venom Shock PEARL?
Post by: Kegler300800 on January 11, 2018, 10:40:02 AM
At least I won't have to tell my wife I'm getting this ball. I don't need a ball like this.
Title: Re: Motiv Venom Shock PEARL?
Post by: ryguy119 on January 11, 2018, 10:40:11 AM
Tag Cannon is my skid flip ball right now.  Really loving this ball. Different motion than anything else from Motiv.
Title: Re: Motiv Venom Shock PEARL?
Post by: spmcgivern on January 11, 2018, 12:31:14 PM
What is the difference between this and the Panic?  Not a fan of the Panic. 

Venom Panic = Old crappy Motiv.

Everything after Primal Rage = better Motiv.

Venom Panic came out after the Primal Rage. I believe Toxin and Strike were only Venoms released before - and I found both to be good balls. Panic was probably the worst of the series though.

My bad.  I mixed up the Remix date with the original.

One thing Motiv has had a hard time with is the ever-so-popular skid snap reaction.  The Primal Rage was close but even it wasn't "Storm"-like.  I personally don't match up great with the severe skid-snap look, but know of many that do.  This is why I have liked Motiv in the past.

Unfortunately, a polished Venom Shock is the strongest ball in my bag followed by a Hustle Ink that rolls out and an original Purple Rhino Pro.  Since it seems I have a fetish for blue-ish/purple-ish bowling balls I will have to get this one.
Title: Re: Motiv Venom Shock PEARL?
Post by: stormed1 on January 11, 2018, 02:36:39 PM
World Wide Release Date: 2/21/18
Venom Shock Pearl


COLOR: Purple Pearl
COVERSTOCK: Hexionâ„¢ MFP Reactive
CORE: Top Gearâ„¢
FINISH: 5500 Grit LSP
LANE CONDITION: Light to Medium Oil
REACTION: Long Angular Backend
WEIGHTS: 12-16 lbs.
Title: Re: Motiv Venom Shock PEARL?
Post by: JazlarVonSteich on January 11, 2018, 03:16:45 PM
Unfortunately, a polished Venom Shock is the strongest ball in my bag followed by a Hustle Ink that rolls out and an original Purple Rhino Pro.  Since it seems I have a fetish for blue-ish/purple-ish bowling balls I will have to get this one.

Is your Ink also polished? As noted, I have not had both in 14. I do have the Ink in 14. Didn't know if the Ink would be stronger or weaker. My Ink was extremely skid/flip out of box. Took the shine off and down to 3000 and much smoother. I had two Shocks in 15. One 3000 + light polish with motion hole and the other drilled stronger and kept around 2000. The mh one was great on the house shot. Great combo on a lot of sport shots.
Title: Re: Motiv Venom Shock PEARL?
Post by: tkkshop on January 18, 2018, 06:45:39 PM
Looks like cobra and carbon are gone
Title: Re: Motiv Venom Shock PEARL?
Post by: HackJandy on January 18, 2018, 07:53:50 PM
Looks like cobra and carbon are gone

Yeah can pick up the Cobra for $100 right now.  Tempting but Honey Badger occupies that spot in arsenal.
Title: Re: Motiv Venom Shock PEARL?
Post by: tkkshop on January 18, 2018, 08:12:21 PM
Looks like cobra and carbon are gone

Yeah can pick up the Cobra for $100 right now.  Tempting but Honey Badger occupies that spot in arsenal.
discontinued is what I meant
Title: Re: Motiv Venom Shock PEARL?
Post by: HackJandy on January 18, 2018, 08:13:02 PM
Looks like cobra and carbon are gone

Yeah can pick up the Cobra for $100 right now.  Tempting but Honey Badger occupies that spot in arsenal.
discontinued is what I meant

Yep meant it more as better get one now if want one kind of deal.