Author Topic: Motivs cracking (Read 15782 times)

Leroy Taylor · « **on:** January 12, 2012, 03:29:18 AM »

brought my favorite TX1 to practice the other day. Decided I'd take the polish off with an abralon pad when I noticed it had cracked. Struck me as a little odd because it stayed in a climate controlled environment ( my house). Upon closer inspection the crack had originated from the Neo Mark lettering.There were several other areas where the NeoMark lettering and the cover were separating. Appears that over time the coverstock and the lettering separate, thus resulting in cracking.

On one hand the TX1 was several years old, however it didn't have too many games on it. I called Motiv ( actually whatever the company is that owns Motiv and a couple other companies) customer service and the guy I spoke with was professional and I was satisfied with Motiv's response to the issue. He admitted this wasn't uncommon with some of the "earlier" models yet could not tell me if Motiv is currently doing anything differently in 'unifying' the coverstock and NeoMark lettering.

I like my Motiv balls but I'm going to be reluctant to purchase any more unless someone can answer the question...Is Motiv doing / done anything different to correct this issue?

I realize many bowlers don't expect their balls to last 5-6 years but if the product is as high quality as Motiv is touting it to be, shouldn't they last?

Edited by Leroy Taylor on 1/12/2012 at 12:35 PM

Edited by Leroy Taylor on 1/12/2012 at 12:37 PM

JOE FALCO · « **Reply #31 on:** January 29, 2012, 02:42:19 PM »

I think Justins first two sentences answer the question .. that's good enough for me! Thanks Just!

jonesybaseball · « **Reply #32 on:** January 29, 2012, 03:39:08 PM »

Ive noticed alot of people saying this.. but it was with some of the earlier models as well, like the tx1, sx1 and the qz1 models.. so none of the newer balls.. but me personally cannot stand motiv.. everyone in my area loves motiv like its the god of bowling, they die too fast for me, thats why i stick with Storm

Storm & Roto Grip>Ebonite Int>Brunswick

Tscolaro1 · « **Reply #33 on:** February 03, 2012, 07:40:33 AM »

Was it ever revealed how these cracks happened because just last December I bought Motiv's Primal TV4 and that is beginning to crack along the neomark design and it is almost completely seperated. Is this particular ball defective or is it a design flaw with the neomark graphics. As frustrating as the crack is, especially within a month and a half, I love the ball and if it does not have the same flaw I want to continue using this brand.

JOE FALCO · « **Reply #34 on:** February 03, 2012, 09:51:16 AM »

TSCOLARO1 .. perhaps you should try and show a picture of your ball .. accepted response seems to indicate OLDER BALLS .. your problem doesn't fit the bill!!

JustinWi wrote on 1/29/2012 3:00 PM:
The Neomark cracking issue was seen in the first few runs of balls made. As with any new manufacturing process, there is a bit of tweaking. It has taken another company several years to iron out issues with their new plant, and another has issues with balls cracking in the box before you get a chance to drill them. Most don't realize the complexity of the machinery that is used to make bowing balls. There are filters, check valves, pumps, nozzles, flow control regulators and on and on. One clogged filter can change the mixtures enough that things can get messed up. Early on sometimes these issues that need to be carefully watched don't become apparent.

Simple answer, notice the pictures of this failure are all TX1 and SX1? The first balls manufactured.

Do you see pictures or hear stories of any of the other balls doing this currently? No. All I know of other than the aforementioned balls is an SR2 and RX1. That is 2 balls out of the thousands upon thousands manufactured. Go to a distributors warehouse and check out the defective/return area. You will see how few balls are returned with issues.

This isn't simply my opinion, nor am I feeding you a line. The quality is there, you just need to know the indicators to look for.

Leroy Taylor · « **Reply #35 on:** February 03, 2012, 01:37:38 PM »

Somehow, this has become a sensitive topic for some here even though it was never intended to be the typical unsubstantiated bashing that occurs on some sites. I was and still am reluctant to say that I've heard a story of recent model ( Raptor) as well. That's one of the reasons I posted this, as I wasn't so sure the earlier models were the only ones with the issue. But I guess time will tell.

Tscolaro1 wrote on 2/3/2012 8:40 AM:
Was it ever revealed how these cracks happened because just last December I bought Motiv's Primal TV4 and that is beginning to crack along the neomark design and it is almost completely seperated. Is this particular ball defective or is it a design flaw with the neomark graphics. As frustrating as the crack is, especially within a month and a half, I love the ball and if it does not have the same flaw I want to continue using this brand.

noslouch · « **Reply #36 on:** February 03, 2012, 02:19:35 PM »

Leroy,

This topic is pretty muuch dead. Talk about Chris Barnes brand new Omen from 'C' cracking before practice. Couldn't well enough use it on the telecast. That would surely have been an embaresment for 'C'. Having new equipment that could not have lasted past 100 games. Or seeing a huge crack in the ball. Then maybe seperating in half when it hits the pin. WOW. That would have made for a great show. That said. Balls will crack no matter who makes them.

I had a Storm ball ball that cracked in the back seat on the way to tourney. Heard a popping sound, thought it was the squirrel I ran over.

Leroy Taylor · « **Reply #37 on:** February 03, 2012, 05:02:48 PM »

You should be able to see I was responding to a post. I wasn't trying to keep the topic going. If the topic is dead to you, fine..that's understandable. However, if I was a betting man, I 'd bet the issues really haven't been completely corrected and that you'll hear more about more models splitting / cracking in the future.

noslouch wrote on 2/3/2012 3:19 PM:
Leroy,

This topic is pretty muuch dead. Talk about Chris Barnes brand new Omen from 'C' cracking before practice. Couldn't well enough use it on the telecast. That would surely have been an embaresment for 'C'. Having new equipment that could not have lasted past 100 games. Or seeing a huge crack in the ball. Then maybe seperating in half when it hits the pin. WOW. That would have made for a great show. That said. Balls will crack no matter who makes them.

I had a Storm ball ball that cracked in the back seat on the way to tourney. Heard a popping sound, thought it was the squirrel I ran over.

JOE FALCO · « **Reply #38 on:** February 03, 2012, 07:34:56 PM »

Leroy .. you made the original posting .. if YOU consider the subject closed .. then it is .. not anyone else (unless of course the Moderators take exception).

six pack · « **Reply #39 on:** February 03, 2012, 08:10:42 PM »

JustinWi wrote on 1/29/2012 3:00 PM:
The Neomark cracking issue was seen in the first few runs of balls made. As with any new manufacturing process, there is a bit of tweaking. It has taken another company several years to iron out issues with their new plant, and another has issues with balls cracking in the box before you get a chance to drill them. Most don't realize the complexity of the machinery that is used to make bowing balls. There are filters, check valves, pumps, nozzles, flow control regulators and on and on. One clogged filter can change the mixtures enough that things can get messed up. Early on sometimes these issues that need to be carefully watched don't become apparent.

Simple answer, notice the pictures of this failure are all TX1 and SX1? The first balls manufactured.

Do you see pictures or hear stories of any of the other balls doing this currently? No. All I know of other than the aforementioned balls is an SR2 and RX1. That is 2 balls out of the thousands upon thousands manufactured. Go to a distributors warehouse and check out the defective/return area. You will see how few balls are returned with issues.

This isn't simply my opinion, nor am I feeding you a line. The quality is there, you just need to know the indicators to look for.

post and a rx1 cracking as described http://bowlingballexchange.com/showthread.php?t=44591

The harder I try the harder they fall

Russell · « **Reply #40 on:** February 04, 2012, 08:46:14 PM »

Actually that was an EPX-T1 that he was using to burn the pattern up with....

noslouch wrote on 2/3/2012 3:19 PM:Leroy,

This topic is pretty muuch dead. Talk about Chris Barnes brand new Omen from 'C' cracking before practice. Couldn't well enough use it on the telecast. That would surely have been an embaresment for 'C'. Having new equipment that could not have lasted past 100 games. Or seeing a huge crack in the ball. Then maybe seperating in half when it hits the pin. WOW. That would have made for a great show. That said. Balls will crack no matter who makes them.

I had a Storm ball ball that cracked in the back seat on the way to tourney. Heard a popping sound, thought it was the squirrel I ran over.

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Leroy Taylor

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