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Equipment Boards => Motiv => Topic started by: MotivSteve300 on March 20, 2018, 07:07:29 PM

Title: Motiv’s Villain - This ball is a must have!
Post by: MotivSteve300 on March 20, 2018, 07:07:29 PM
Motiv’s new release of the Villain is so exciting because they are bringing back the Sinister core with their modern Coercion MFS cover stock.  Looking at the Sinister core, this asymmetric gives you a high RG with loads of differential.  As a result you can expect to see impressive power and great continuation.    The cover, Coercion (medium friction solid), offers great versatility allowing you to easily adjust down to a smoother motion or back up for more of a benchmark look.  You get so much performance with this ball at such a great value being in the medium-heavy range on the ball chart.  The Villain became and immediate favorite in my tournament arsenal!
 
Steve Haas, Motiv Staff
https://youtu.be/6xEnffbFu8U
Title: Re: Motiv’s Villain - This ball is a must have!
Post by: leftybowler70 on March 20, 2018, 08:27:20 PM
Would you like a cookie for this awesome review?
Title: Re: Motiv’s Villain - This ball is a must have!
Post by: lefty50 on March 20, 2018, 08:30:00 PM
So, ya wanna hear something REALLY funny? When everyone on here has a running gag about how stupid these idiotic staffer reviews are for saying "must have ball", somebody actually put it in the %^&* TITLE!..
Seriously, I kid you not!
#unbelievable stupidity.
Title: Re: Motiv’s Villain - This ball is a must have!
Post by: lilpossum1 on March 20, 2018, 09:03:14 PM
Hmm... This is a very informative review. Let me list the useful info information that is swaying me to buy it... Ummm... Maybe... Could this be the information I need... Nope. Never mind. I couldn't find any useful info here.
Title: Re: Motiv’s Villain - This ball is a must have!
Post by: 2handedrook12 on March 21, 2018, 12:59:41 AM
So, ya wanna hear something REALLY funny? When everyone on here has a running gag about how stupid these idiotic staffer reviews are for saying "must have ball", somebody actually put it in the %^&* TITLE!..
Seriously, I kid you not!
#unbelievable stupidity.
Love this!
Title: Re: Motiv’s Villain - This ball is a must have!
Post by: Snakster on March 21, 2018, 08:34:13 AM
I'm seriously considering creating a top 10 list of cliches contained in staffer reviews.
Title: Re: Motiv’s Villain - This ball is a must have!
Post by: milorafferty on March 21, 2018, 10:32:01 AM
Sorry, but nope, not a must have ball. I threw mine for the first time last night.

Here is the deal as I see it:

It looks to be a medium heavy oil ball, with a reasonable ability to make a decent move at the end of a long/heavy pattern. I bowled on a somewhat slick house shot last night and it was too much for the condition unless I started left of fourth arrow.

It's not going to make you a better bowler.

The Sun won't shine brighter in the sky if you own this ball.

Your morning Corn Flakes will taste the same whether you own this ball or not.


If you stop at Starbucks every morning on the way to work, you will probably be broke...and fat. Don't count on this ball to make a difference.

You will probably still need Ex-Lax if you eat too much cheese; This ball won't change that for you.

If you already have the Jackal Rising and say the Chronic Paranoia, you don't need this ball.

If you already have the Trident Quest, you don't need this ball.

If you already have the Forza SS, you don't need this ball.

This ball isn't the Venom Shock, which is truly the only "must have" ball in the Motiv line-up(Although I do love me some Venom Cobra).


Here is an idea Motiv, give us the cover from the Villain on the Venom Cobra core.

Title: Re: Motiv’s Villain - This ball is a must have!
Post by: tkkshop on March 21, 2018, 10:39:08 AM
Here is an idea Motiv, give us the cover from the Villain on the Venom Cobra core.
oh baby! now we are talking
Title: Re: Motiv’s Villain - This ball is a must have!
Post by: Kegler300800 on March 21, 2018, 10:41:19 AM
The only things I must have: air, food and water (and my Jackal Rising).

Title: Re: Motiv’s Villain - This ball is a must have!
Post by: JazlarVonSteich on March 21, 2018, 02:38:21 PM
Have you watched his videos? I swear he says in every one that the ball is a must have, or at least how great it is.
Title: Re: Motiv’s Villain - This ball is a must have!
Post by: Good Times Good Times on March 21, 2018, 03:08:40 PM
The relevant snippets from OP's reviews.....

Shock Pearl:

You will want this ball in your bag!

Steve Haas, Motiv Staff

Jackal Rising:

Because this ball is smooth, I feel it will get a lot of use and a must for your bag. 

Steve Haas, Motiv Staff

Lethal Paranoia:

This ball is a must for your tournament or league arsenal. 

Motiv Staffer - Steve Haas

Tank Rampage:

This ball will be a must for tournament bowlers, light oil/high friction patterns and high rev players.  Get one in your bag today!!! 

MOTIV Staffer
Steve Haas

United Revolt:

A must have ball for all tournament bowlers.     

MOTIV Staff
Steve Haas

Venom Cobra:

This is the type of ball where you will want two in your bag!

Steve Haas
Motiv Regional Staff

Jackal Carnage:

This is a must for all tournament bowlers!
 
Steve Haas
Motiv Regional Staff Member

Revolt Havoc:

This is a must for all serious bowlers!   #PurpleBall

Steve Haas
Motiv Regional Staff

Primal Rage Remix:

It's a must for any serious competitive bowler.

Steve Haas
Motiv regional staff

Forza Redline:

This is a must for your bag!

Steve Haas
Motiv regional staff member
Title: Re: Motiv’s Villain - This ball is a must have!
Post by: milorafferty on March 21, 2018, 03:11:27 PM
I'm still waiting for Motiv to come out with that 25 ball roller bag.  :o ;D
Title: Re: Motiv’s Villain - This ball is a must have!
Post by: Impending Doom on March 21, 2018, 03:20:29 PM
Staffer baloney. Every company needs a Luke Rosdahl on their staff actually giving decent reviews.
Title: Re: Motiv’s Villain - This ball is a must have!
Post by: Good Times Good Times on March 21, 2018, 03:32:32 PM
Staffer baloney. Every company needs a Luke Rosdahl on their staff actually giving decent reviews.

I just think it takes from the credibility of the OP.  If EVERY ball is a "must have" how can I trust your take on ANY of them?

Truthfully, and I ask this with sincerity, if I were in the market for a new Motiv ball and saw that every one was a "must-have", how could I feel OP is being honest w/me?
Title: Re: Motiv’s Villain - This ball is a must have!
Post by: leftybowler70 on March 21, 2018, 03:44:35 PM
Exactly Doom, and Good Times couldn’t of said it better myself.
Title: Re: Motiv’s Villain - This ball is a must have!
Post by: lilpossum1 on March 21, 2018, 04:15:04 PM
Props to Luke for saying that not every ball agrees with his game, but at least saying who it would work for and on what shots. There is rarely a bad ball, only bad matchups.
Title: Re: Motiv’s Villain - This ball is a must have!
Post by: Luke Rosdahl on March 22, 2018, 07:31:18 AM
I'm not jumping forums to troll, but I'll be honest, the title sucked me in . . LOL.  I guess I just don't think these people stop and THINK, "is what I'm saying ACTUALLY going to make me want to buy this ball?  If the situations were reversed, would this work on me?"  Yeah obviously I'd like it if you bought Storm/Roto stuff, but if you say you decided on a Venom Shock instead, like how could I fault anyone for that?  It's a great ball, denying that would be a lie. 

Before I signed with Storm, my bag was a Covert Revolt, Sigma Tour, and the OG Tribal, TELL ME you could put together a better 3 ball bag at that point 4ish years ago???  Your job as a staffer is to know what you're talking about and provide information and let them decide what they want, not con them into anything.  I hate salesmen, if you're not selling me what I want, what good are you?  The way it's supposed to work is I tell you what I want, and you, the expert, find it for me, or if I'm not sure what I want, it's your job to help me figure it out, not talk me into what gets you the biggest commission check. 

What in this review provides any real information?  It's a design intent and a lot of propaganda, and if I buy it and it's not what I expected, I'm gonna be pissed.  That's happened to me too though, some people bought balls I talked up and didn't like them, other people like balls I've hated, so a certain amount of that is going to happen, but when it does, it's back to the drawing board to figure out something else.  Everybody already expects a staffer to be a douche hawking everything to keep their contract, don't be like that . . I'm gonna have to make a training video or something lol . .