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Motiv Girl

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MOTIV RX 1 Review
« on: July 05, 2010, 12:00:11 AM »
Review of the RX1

My Information:Ball Speed- 16mph avg.,Rev Rate-275rpm''s avg.,
Axis Rotation-45 Degrees,Axis Tilt-15 Degrees,Right-handed.

Specs of ball tested:Top Weight-2.9 oz.,3"pin,Box Surface-4000
grit wet/sand,

Drilling:  Pin over middle finger,5 3/4",Cg 4 3/4'' from PAP,No X-Hole.

Lanes:Brunswick Anvilane,Wood lanes,

The all new MOTIV Recon core has a higher RG and a moderate Diff.,
that helps get the RX1 down the lane.

Matched up with the milder MOTIVator-X coverstock from the
SX1 and the TX1 will complement the core.

The shocking orange color is turning heads,and causing people to
ask what you are throwing.

I have not thrown a ball this mild in a long time.Especially a ball
that was not urethane.
Other reactives that are supposed to go long are too skid flip.The
RX1 is all about control and roll.

On Dry Lanes and Second Shift House Shots

The RX1 gave me very good length throughout the heads and mids.
At the exit point to the breakpoint,the RX1 was clean and mild.
When the RX1 hit the breakpoint there was no sign of flip,
only a very mild arc.The cover and core helps lesson the response
off the dry.

For me playing dry lanes without having to move past third arrow
was great.Being able to stand at 25 and releasing the ball off my
hand at 20,and not having to target deeper than 15 on the lane,
helped me stay more square to the target,and not have to make
diagonal moves.The moves were mostly parallel adjustments.



On a Fresh House Shot:41'' and very dry outside the 7th board.

This ball was surprising.The RX1 allowed me me stand right and
roll it right up 5-6.The RX1 cleared the heads and mids without ever
wanting to stand up early.When it hit the breakpoint,on the fresh
house shot,there was no sign of the RX1 ever wanting to jump.

The RX1 is what a entry level ball should be."Control".
Overall the RX1 is a great piece for the entry level pricing.

Angela Wilt,MOTIV Staff Member
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Edited on 7/5/2010 7:21 PM

 

sstaz

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Re: MOTIV RX 1 Review
« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2010, 08:29:45 AM »
were you using this ball at ford lanes or no? The ball sounds amazing

Edited on 7/5/2010 8:30 AM

Motiv Girl

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Re: MOTIV RX 1 Review
« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2010, 09:20:50 AM »
Yes,some of the dry lanes shots,and fresh house shots
were at Ford Lanes.
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Randy T

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Re: MOTIV RX 1 Review
« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2010, 07:00:04 PM »
Haven't heard anything negative about this ball at all.

All the videos sure do make it look good.  I'm trying my 1st Motiv ball when this ball is available

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Re: MOTIV RX 1 Review
« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2010, 07:12:11 PM »
I'd really like to see a test with the pin at 4.5" - 5" pin-PAP, even if it were over the ring finger area.

Many people seem to have drilled this ball with 5 3/4" - 6" pin to PAP, like yourself. That milds out many, many balls, making them have a very urethane-like reaction.
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Re: MOTIV RX 1 Review
« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2010, 07:40:01 PM »
quote:

I'd really like to see a test with the pin at 4.5" - 5" pin-PAP, even if it were over the ring finger area.

Many people seem to have drilled this ball with 5 3/4" - 6" pin to PAP, like yourself. That milds out many, many balls, making them have a very urethane-like reaction.
 


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 I Plan on getting another next week and drilling it a little stronger.Or putting the pin 4" from the PAP under the finger.

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Re: MOTIV RX 1 Review
« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2010, 08:27:34 PM »
charlest
When I use a 5 5/8 pin it stores energy and creates a stronger backend reaction for me.  I also have one with a 4 in pin, which causes the ball to be very smooth at the breakpoint.  (the 5 5/8 pin is above the middle, the 4 pin is above the ring)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlQjwFRQzbc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOHeSnjDH6Q

check out the 2nd video, its a 5 5/8 recon and a 5 5/8 sx1.  check out the smoothness of the sx1 (i'm joking, its the opposite of smooth)  The 1st video has both recon's in it.  I used these two layouts to give me a smooth reaction off the dry boards and a sharper reaction off the dry boards (the 4in recon being the smoother one)
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JustinWi

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Re: MOTIV RX 1 Review
« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2010, 09:15:16 PM »
quote:
I'd really like to see a test with the pin at 4.5" - 5" pin-PAP, even if it were over the ring finger area.

Many people seem to have drilled this ball with 5 3/4" - 6" pin to PAP, like yourself. That milds out many, many balls, making them have a very urethane-like reaction.
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In my vid I use 65x30@5.5 and 70x75@4.5.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1z3DloS0NIU

charlest

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Re: MOTIV RX 1 Review
« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2010, 09:45:50 PM »
quote:
charlest
When I use a 5 5/8 pin it stores energy and creates a stronger backend reaction for me.  I also have one with a 4 in pin, which causes the ball to be very smooth at the breakpoint.  (the 5 5/8 pin is above the middle, the 4 pin is above the ring)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlQjwFRQzbc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOHeSnjDH6Q

check out the 2nd video, its a 5 5/8 recon and a 5 5/8 sx1.  check out the smoothness of the sx1 (i'm joking, its the opposite of smooth)  The 1st video has both recon's in it.  I used these two layouts to give me a smooth reaction off the dry boards and a sharper reaction off the dry boards (the 4in recon being the smoother one)
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Darn, Josh, I forgot all about your duo (nice work by the way). It hooked more but more smoothly, YES!
FYI, my SX-1 is drilled not too differently from yours, pin at 5.5" over center of the bridge. It was my THIRD drilling on the same ball. The previous two were bad guesses and way too strong.
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Re: MOTIV RX 1 Review
« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2010, 09:52:20 PM »
quote:
quote:
I'd really like to see a test with the pin at 4.5" - 5" pin-PAP, even if it were over the ring finger area.

Many people seem to have drilled this ball with 5 3/4" - 6" pin to PAP, like yourself. That milds out many, many balls, making them have a very urethane-like reaction.
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In my vid I use 65x30@5.5 and 70x75@4.5.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1z3DloS0NIU


Justin,

I saw yours but I have an issue with the angles on the 70x75x4.5. That creates the same type of ball reaction as if you had used a longer pin-PAP distance. Those are HUGE angles and will mollify any ball's reaction. If you use that regularly, fine for you, but as a demo, it tells me you tried to take the core almost completely out of the equation. It doesn't show the core and the cover working together.

To convince the potential customer, I think you need something like Josh did: a weak drilling and a medium-strong drilling.

(FYI Folks, I'm speaking as a convert, not as a potential customer. I have several Motiv balls and like them a lot. Even if I'm not using them this moment I do not intend to sell them. Heck, I'm trying to convince myself I don't really need Red QZ-1. It's not working. )
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JustinWi

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Re: MOTIV RX 1 Review
« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2010, 10:53:01 PM »
Do you find it odd that the 70x75@4.5" ball hooked 10 boards more overall than the 60x30@5.5"?  Seems like that shouldn''t be what happened if I had attempted to "take the core almost completely out of the equation."

The 60x30 flares approx 3", the 70x75 flares approx 5.5".

The 70x75 "down and out" layout is a very commonly used one.

Edited on 7/6/2010 11:02 AM

Brett A Spangler

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Re: MOTIV RX 1 Review
« Reply #11 on: July 08, 2010, 08:59:20 AM »
Here's another:

PAP: -6 1/8" Horizontal and -1/8 vertical

Knowing my experiences with the X shell from the TX1 and the SX1, I modified my approach to the Recon RX1.  The SX1 and TX1 would use all of their energy in one spot on the lane.  I was able to use X shell balls when they were either very dull or when the pin was fairly close to the PAP.  

For this reason I drilled my Recon RX1 60 x 1 1/2 x 20.  There is a 15/16 hole 2 1/2" down on my VAL from my PAP.  

The RX1 provides ease of length with substantial reaction on the backends.  I was surprised at the strength of the Recon.  It is definitely stronger than the rest of the Motiv line, but certainly does not lope on medium light patterns or house shots.

I found that my Recon performed best at 2000 grit.  This surface tweak did not substantially hinder the length the Recon provides, but blended the transition to my liking.

This ball will be a great solution for high rev players, low speed bowlers, shorter patterns, rough surfaces, and dry lanes.  

Bottom line, the recon core is a better core/cover matchup for the X shell.  The core does not overpower the shell, but still provides enough core strength to have a consistent reactio on appropriate patterns.