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Title: New lineup
Post by: Impending Doom on December 22, 2019, 04:27:59 PM
Ok, time to start drawing some parallels here. I've gotten some recommendations, and watched some videos, looked at numbers, and I think I may have something, but wanna ask.

So I was told this by a good friend that works there.

Alpha
Scorn
Fire
Shock
Supra
Blitz

I was really leaning towards a Ghost at the top, Scorn AND og Villain (they really remind me of the Break), Fire, Shock, Supra and Blitz. He really likes the Assassin and I looked and it's like someone said, it looks very Phase 2 ish.

To replace what's in my bag right now, I'd see the Alpha replacing the Dream On, just less torque, Villians being kinda Break like, Supra being a Drift replacement, Assassin replacing the Night Hawk se, the Blitz being a bigger X, and I really don't have a fire equivalent.

Thoughts? Only carrying 6 or 7 balls to cover everything seems foreign to me lol
Title: Re: New lineup
Post by: scotts33 on December 22, 2019, 07:18:53 PM
IMO at OOB surface Tank Blitz and Fire Forge are same total hook/strength.  FF is longer and harder move...Tank Blitz earlier and smoother.  All things being equal. 
Title: Re: New lineup
Post by: AlonzoHarris on December 22, 2019, 07:19:36 PM
I like it. I would personally want to grab up one of the Rogue balls for that Sigma Core, but you have good coverage with that lineup regardless.
Title: Re: New lineup
Post by: Impending Doom on December 22, 2019, 08:27:17 PM
I like it. I would personally want to grab up one of the Rogue balls for that Sigma Core, but you have good coverage with that lineup regardless.

I do like how the Assassin shapes in the videos I have seen.
Title: Re: New lineup
Post by: BowlingForDonuts on December 22, 2019, 09:08:49 PM
Hydra is a better burn ball than Supra imo and almost as angular.  Hexion cover is legit awesome.  Hydra would be the 900 Boost and Thrill would be the After Dark.
Title: Re: New lineup
Post by: scotts33 on December 22, 2019, 09:20:15 PM
 
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Hydra would be the 900 Boost and Thrill would be the After Dark.

Hydra is possibly close to a Boost Cardinal Red pearl but Thrill 15 lb 2.57 .015 is no where near an ADP 15 lb. 2.56 .030.
Title: Re: New lineup
Post by: BowlingForDonuts on December 22, 2019, 09:22:07 PM
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Hydra would be the 900 Boost and Thrill would be the After Dark.

Hydra is possibly close to a Boost Cardinal Red pearl but Thrill 15 lb 2.57 .015 is no where near an ADP 15 lb. 2.56 .030.

Stats on paper wise no but motion on lane is similar from what I have seen.  Both go real long and are mild on the back end.  After Dark has more core but slightly less cover stock imo but yeah not quite complete equivalents will admit (Thrill slightly less angular).
Title: Re: New lineup
Post by: jelt2359 on December 22, 2019, 09:26:15 PM
Ok, time to start drawing some parallels here. I've gotten some recommendations, and watched some videos, looked at numbers, and I think I may have something, but wanna ask.

So I was told this by a good friend that works there.

Alpha
Scorn
Fire
Shock
Supra
Blitz

I was really leaning towards a Ghost at the top, Scorn AND og Villain (they really remind me of the Break), Fire, Shock, Supra and Blitz. He really likes the Assassin and I looked and it's like someone said, it looks very Phase 2 ish.

To replace what's in my bag right now, I'd see the Alpha replacing the Dream On, just less torque, Villians being kinda Break like, Supra being a Drift replacement, Assassin replacing the Night Hawk se, the Blitz being a bigger X, and I really don't have a fire equivalent.

Thoughts? Only carrying 6 or 7 balls to cover everything seems foreign to me lol

You are replacing 900 global with motiv??
Title: Re: New lineup
Post by: Curt_Dupre on December 23, 2019, 01:27:38 AM
Just my opinion Doom. I think those are great choices to start with. The only missing piece may be a Rogue Assassin or Blade (Sigma Core). Tank Blitz will give you a motion that you probably have never seen before. I used to be with 900 Global, the big difference you are going to see is shape. Motiv really prides itself on creating different shapes through the line. For me, the Rogue Assassin,  Forge Fire, Tank Blitz, Supra and Alpha Jackal are homerun balls. Let us know if you have any other questions about any other balls.
Title: Re: New lineup
Post by: Impending Doom on December 23, 2019, 08:15:54 AM
Ok, time to start drawing some parallels here. I've gotten some recommendations, and watched some videos, looked at numbers, and I think I may have something, but wanna ask.

So I was told this by a good friend that works there.

Alpha
Scorn
Fire
Shock
Supra
Blitz

I was really leaning towards a Ghost at the top, Scorn AND og Villain (they really remind me of the Break), Fire, Shock, Supra and Blitz. He really likes the Assassin and I looked and it's like someone said, it looks very Phase 2 ish.

To replace what's in my bag right now, I'd see the Alpha replacing the Dream On, just less torque, Villians being kinda Break like, Supra being a Drift replacement, Assassin replacing the Night Hawk se, the Blitz being a bigger X, and I really don't have a fire equivalent.

Thoughts? Only carrying 6 or 7 balls to cover everything seems foreign to me lol

You are replacing 900 global with motiv??

Yes sir. Pm me if you would like to speak.
Title: Re: New lineup
Post by: HighRevvin on December 23, 2019, 09:35:40 AM
The Tank Blitz will most likely be my next acquisition. I don't really have the need for the top line asymms but marketing always has me drooling over the new releases.

Highly recommend the addition of a Venom Shock Pearl in the bag. It's got OG IQ Tour Pearl vibes. So easy to get length and so smooth and continuous off friction.
Title: Re: New lineup
Post by: Bowl_Freak on December 23, 2019, 11:08:55 AM
900 Global must be doing some house cleaning. Sorry to hear Doom. I know of at least 3-4 people that do awesome work as staffers that got either cut or left. Only thing i throw 900 now is the TT and just got some Storm/Roto stuff to drill for the new year.
Title: Re: New lineup
Post by: HighRevvin on December 23, 2019, 11:28:40 AM
I've used Motiv, 900 Global, and Storm for a few yeas now. I used the Black Ops a LOT and the After Dark Pearl is/was a gem for burnt lanes. Didn't have a lot of luck other release, maybe poor fit, choices etc.
Title: Re: New lineup
Post by: kiefenstien on December 23, 2019, 01:27:02 PM
You are replacing 900 global with motiv??
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Yes sir. Pm me if you would like to speak.
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WHAT!!!???
Title: Re: New lineup
Post by: CPA on January 07, 2020, 11:54:23 AM
I wasn't impressed with the Scorn.  It was very condition specific and did not have a lot of versatility.  A Rogue Blade would be better or possibly a Ghost at 4000. 
Title: Re: New lineup
Post by: Impending Doom on January 09, 2020, 01:28:01 PM
I wasn't impressed with the Scorn.  It was very condition specific and did not have a lot of versatility.  A Rogue Blade would be better or possibly a Ghost at 4000. 

What didn't you like about it?
Title: Re: New lineup
Post by: BowlingForDonuts on January 09, 2020, 01:37:51 PM
Doom you thrown the Blitz yet?  That ball is easy to fall in love with.  Carry for days.
Title: Re: New lineup
Post by: Impending Doom on January 09, 2020, 01:44:34 PM
Doom you thrown the Blitz yet?  That ball is easy to fall in love with.  Carry for days.

Haven't thrown anything yet. Test drive is next week. Gonna have a chance to try
Alpha
Forge Fire
Golden Jackal
Supra
Blitz
Covert
Recoil
Ripcord
Assassin

Looking forward to everything except Ripcord and Recoil. Don't like what I've seen, but I'mma try them all!
Title: Re: New lineup
Post by: BowlingForDonuts on January 09, 2020, 02:35:45 PM
Keep an open mind on the Recoil.  Much more versatile than you would think going only off stats.
Title: Re: New lineup
Post by: CPA on January 09, 2020, 04:36:58 PM
Doom
For me the Scorn was way over under even after making various surface changes.  I have thrown mostly Motiv for several years.  It is hard to go wrong with any of the Jackals.  I have not thrown the Fire, but it looks very good.  The Venom Shock is a staple is most Motiv users bags.  I have not thrown the Blitz, but people seem to like it.  I wasn't impressed by the carry for lower rev rates.  Right before release date I bowled against a staffer who has some PBA titles.  He shot 556 and the ball just didn't look good.
Title: Re: New lineup
Post by: bowlingman817 on January 09, 2020, 04:58:22 PM
Doom you thrown the Blitz yet?  That ball is easy to fall in love with.  Carry for days.

Haven't thrown anything yet. Test drive is next week. Gonna have a chance to try
Alpha
Forge Fire
Golden Jackal
Supra
Blitz
Covert
Recoil
Ripcord
Assassin

Looking forward to everything except Ripcord and Recoil. Don't like what I've seen, but I'mma try them all!
                                                                                                                       
Where is there going to be a test drive demo? Would love to test some of these out myself.