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Title: Peek at the Redline
Post by: Snakster on June 25, 2015, 06:33:05 PM
It may be yellow, but it's not a coward.

Title: Re: Peek at the Redline
Post by: milorafferty on June 25, 2015, 06:37:06 PM
Oooo, me likey!
Title: Re: Peek at the Redline
Post by: dougb on June 25, 2015, 07:03:27 PM
I have to say that is one of the best looking balls I've seen in a long time. Reminds me of a race car when I was growing up. What lane conditions is there for?
Title: Re: Peek at the Redline
Post by: themagician on June 25, 2015, 07:11:48 PM
Goodness, i'm a Motiv fan and tend to get most of their releases because of reaction, but this one i'm buying at least one maybe two right away just on colors alone!
Title: Re: Peek at the Redline
Post by: Ken De Beasto on June 25, 2015, 07:40:57 PM
No specs still???? I'm curious if I should get red line or another regular forza
Title: Re: Peek at the Redline
Post by: relentless1 on June 25, 2015, 08:46:13 PM
I was expecting a different color but this is cool. I hope this one has that nice Motiv badge on it like what's on the Forza.
Title: Re: Peek at the Redline
Post by: billdozer on June 25, 2015, 10:23:58 PM
Looks great! I interpret the red logo as the "redline", when it rolls I bet it looks amazingly cool!  Think of a speedometer...
Title: Re: Peek at the Redline
Post by: SVstar34 on June 25, 2015, 11:35:45 PM
I have to say that is one of the best looking balls I've seen in a long time. Reminds me of a race car when I was growing up. What lane conditions is there for?

Looks like a pearl cover but with the strength of the core and probably a medium strength cover it should be for medium conditions
Title: Re: Peek at the Redline
Post by: Ken De Beasto on June 25, 2015, 11:38:27 PM
Looks great! I interpret the red logo as the "redline", when it rolls I bet it looks amazingly cool!  Think of a speedometer...

Yea I thought of a speedometer I was thinking the ball would be more of a black and red ball with swirls looking like its redlining lol.
Title: Re: Peek at the Redline
Post by: Snakster on June 25, 2015, 11:57:32 PM
Found a picture of the numbers
Title: Re: Peek at the Redline
Post by: Ken De Beasto on June 26, 2015, 12:20:41 AM
Found a picture of the numbers
You are the man!!!
Title: Re: Peek at the Redline
Post by: Luvswatch on June 26, 2015, 09:14:35 AM
The Sigma Sting replacement!
Title: Re: Peek at the Redline
Post by: scotts33 on June 26, 2015, 12:26:29 PM
I wondered when this would leak.  I will get one for above my Venom Shock.  The Tag goes below my Shock.
Title: Re: Peek at the Redline
Post by: MrNickRo on June 26, 2015, 12:48:29 PM
In my migration to Motiv, I have a Vengeance and an Octane.  This year I'm thinking I'll add the Redline and a Tag.  Does that sound like a nice start an arsenal?

Vengeance
Redline
Octane
Tag
Title: Re: Peek at the Redline
Post by: bowlingman817 on June 27, 2015, 01:58:01 PM
Was this ball showcased at bowl Expo?
Title: Re: Peek at the Redline
Post by: tkkshop on June 27, 2015, 02:13:46 PM
It is indeed at bowlexpo on display.
Title: Re: Peek at the Redline
Post by: bowlingman817 on June 27, 2015, 04:23:30 PM
It is indeed at bowlexpo on display.
When is its anticipated releases date? Would this be Motivs equivalent ball to let's say a Roto Unhinged?
Title: Re: Peek at the Redline
Post by: SVstar34 on June 27, 2015, 04:56:39 PM
It is indeed at bowlexpo on display.
When is its anticipated releases date? Would this be Motivs equivalent ball to let's say a Roto Unhinged?

I think the cover might be a little stronger than the Unhinged but id think similar shape just a little earlier than the Unhinged
Title: Re: Peek at the Redline
Post by: scotts33 on June 27, 2015, 05:01:43 PM
 I would not think Unhinged but slightly stronger Sigma Sting.
Title: Re: Peek at the Redline
Post by: tkkshop on June 27, 2015, 05:28:06 PM
The Octane would be similar to an Unhinged. Primal Prage would be a stronger Unhinged. The Redline will rev sooner and be smoother than an unhinged based on core numbers alone.
Title: Re: Peek at the Redline
Post by: lefty101 on June 28, 2015, 04:06:36 AM
Maybe similar to marvel pearl?
Title: Re: Peek at the Redline
Post by: Freddy on June 28, 2015, 06:16:13 AM
I want one!  WWRD?
Title: Re: Peek at the Redline
Post by: tkkshop on June 28, 2015, 09:11:55 AM
Maybe similar to marvel pearl?
this is what I am thinking too.
Title: Re: Peek at the Redline
Post by: billdozer on June 28, 2015, 10:04:53 AM
It looks so good tho!
Title: Re: Peek at the Redline
Post by: tkkshop on June 30, 2015, 08:11:53 PM
8/26/15
Title: Re: Peek at the Redline
Post by: Joker-1 on July 01, 2015, 08:38:52 AM
Really think motiv has great equipment, but hate their color schemes on their equipment  :-\
Title: Re: Peek at the Redline
Post by: scotts33 on July 01, 2015, 08:40:21 AM
I'm gonna love this yellow ball.  Reminds me of the old Visionary Amulet (urethane).
Title: Re: Peek at the Redline
Post by: amyers2002 on July 01, 2015, 09:23:34 AM
Really think motiv has great equipment, but hate their color schemes on their equipment  :-\

I'm not one to buy/not buy over color but I really liked the looks of this one. One of the few balls I've seen that I really hope I like the shape and roll of cause I want it for the looks. We will see.
Title: Re: Peek at the Redline
Post by: milorafferty on July 01, 2015, 09:33:59 AM
Really think motiv has great equipment, but hate their color schemes on their equipment  :-\

Come on, how could you not like the Primal Impulse?  ;D
Title: Re: Peek at the Redline
Post by: spmcgivern on July 01, 2015, 09:38:57 AM
Really think motiv has great equipment, but hate their color schemes on their equipment  :-\
I am always amazed at how color schemes play in what a person likes or doesn't like.  I am not trying to berate anyone because I have my own color hatreds, but what type of color schemes do you like Joker?  Motiv has just as many different color schemes as anyone else and they use pretty much the same colors as anyone else, so what part of Motiv's colors specifically do you not like?

Personally, I won't buy a ball with orange in it (or try not to).  Mainly to do with me graduating from Texas A&M and our hatred of University of Texas (we are cult-like in that aspect).  My wife thinks I have a screw loose because I won't even touch orange some times.
Title: Re: Peek at the Redline
Post by: Joker-1 on July 01, 2015, 09:52:44 AM
Really think motiv has great equipment, but hate their color schemes on their equipment  :-\
I am always amazed at how color schemes play in what a person likes or doesn't like.  I am not trying to berate anyone because I have my own color hatreds, but what type of color schemes do you like Joker?  Motiv has just as many different color schemes as anyone else and they use pretty much the same colors as anyone else, so what part of Motiv's colors specifically do you not like?

Personally, I won't buy a ball with orange in it (or try not to).  Mainly to do with me graduating from Texas A&M and our hatred of University of Texas (we are cult-like in that aspect).  My wife thinks I have a screw loose because I won't even touch orange some times.

I liked the way storm did their color schemes, it wasnt the reason why I threw storm equipment, but their color scheme was on point for me. To me the motiv colors seem pretty bland and wasn't really an eye catcher for me
Title: Re: Peek at the Redline
Post by: spmcgivern on July 01, 2015, 10:08:48 AM
To each their own.  Though I wouldn't say these balls are bland:
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Title: Re: Peek at the Redline
Post by: Joker-1 on July 01, 2015, 11:03:44 AM
I think some of them are really decent looking, but looking at the shock, panic, rage, tag, covert revolt, ect, these all look so plain just being one solid color.
Title: Re: Peek at the Redline
Post by: milorafferty on July 01, 2015, 11:09:59 AM
I think some of them are really decent looking, but looking at the shock, panic, rage, tag, covert revolt, ect, these all look so plain just being one solid color.

I have a lot of people comment on how good my Venom Shock looks. The deep purple off set by the bright orange logos make a nice combination. Personally, I think the Tag is a great looking ball. Shiny black with the bright green logos look great going down the lane.

After thinking about it, the only ball Motiv has made that could actually be considered having only one color would be the Covert Revolt and even it has deep gray and black.


But to each their own. Perhaps you would prefer something garish like the stuff Columbia 300 or DV8 is producing.
Title: Re: Peek at the Redline
Post by: scotts33 on July 01, 2015, 11:24:09 AM
The deal on the solid color balls with the contrasting vivid color in the Neomark logo which has changed in the last few releases is what makes the ball attractive for most when seeing it go down the lane (depending on your rev rate).  When the ball turns over/revs the solid vs. the Neomark logo is quite good looking IMO.   

My Venom Shock has gotten quite a few remarks about how good it looks. 

I think that's why one reason Motiv has named the new Forza REDLINE in that it will be quite dramatic when the ball revs with it's red graphics in the logo vs. the yellow colored cover.   
Title: Re: Peek at the Redline
Post by: Joker-1 on July 01, 2015, 12:24:23 PM
Maybe I'm just a motiv hater lol
Title: Re: Peek at the Redline
Post by: milorafferty on July 01, 2015, 12:27:19 PM
Maybe I'm just a motiv hater lol

Nothing wrong with that. There are brands I wouldn't have in my bag if they were offered to me for free. LOL
Title: Re: Peek at the Redline
Post by: spmcgivern on July 01, 2015, 12:30:39 PM
Maybe I'm just a motiv hater lol
Maybe so, but you're still alright in my book.
Title: Re: Peek at the Redline
Post by: morpheus on July 01, 2015, 12:48:50 PM
At least for me, solid colors make it easier to read down lane motion and something I like about the Motiv line.
Title: Re: Peek at the Redline
Post by: Walking E on July 01, 2015, 01:49:18 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought part of the reason why Brunswick moved is because they struggled to pour multi-colored balls in their old facility (at least, they couldn't pour the colors in a pleasing way). It looks to me like Motiv - using the old Brunswick facilities - has the same limitation, which is why they needed to come up with something bold and colorful to offset those limitations. Hence, the NeoMark graphics were incorporated, and these look great. I love the way that the two Forzas have looked.
Title: Re: Peek at the Redline
Post by: Bowler19525 on July 01, 2015, 02:05:38 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought part of the reason why Brunswick moved is because they struggled to pour multi-colored balls in their old facility (at least, they couldn't pour the colors in a pleasing way). It looks to me like Motiv - using the old Brunswick facilities - has the same limitation, which is why they needed to come up with something bold and colorful to offset those limitations. Hence, the NeoMark graphics were incorporated, and these look great. I love the way that the two Forzas have looked.

I always thought the Brunswick Attitude line looked really good aesthetically. 
Title: Re: Peek at the Redline
Post by: JustinWi on July 01, 2015, 02:08:13 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought part of the reason why Brunswick moved is because they struggled to pour multi-colored balls in their old facility (at least, they couldn't pour the colors in a pleasing way). It looks to me like Motiv - using the old Brunswick facilities - has the same limitation, which is why they needed to come up with something bold and colorful to offset those limitations. Hence, the NeoMark graphics were incorporated, and these look great. I love the way that the two Forzas have looked.

This is a common misconception.

MOTIV has a separate plant from the old Brunswick plant.  Always have been and always will be 2 separate operations and buildings.
Title: Re: Peek at the Redline
Post by: milorafferty on July 01, 2015, 02:10:16 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought part of the reason why Brunswick moved is because they struggled to pour multi-colored balls in their old facility (at least, they couldn't pour the colors in a pleasing way). It looks to me like Motiv - using the old Brunswick facilities - has the same limitation, which is why they needed to come up with something bold and colorful to offset those limitations. Hence, the NeoMark graphics were incorporated, and these look great. I love the way that the two Forzas have looked.

This is entirely untrue.

MOTIV has a separate plant from the old Brunswick plant.  Always have been and always will be 2 separate operations and buildings.

I was just about to say that Justin.

Here is a link that should prove it to anyone interested.

http://www.mlive.com/news/muskegon/index.ssf/2013/01/historic_brunswick_bowling_man.html
Title: Re: Peek at the Redline
Post by: Joker-1 on July 01, 2015, 02:37:11 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought part of the reason why Brunswick moved is because they struggled to pour multi-colored balls in their old facility (at least, they couldn't pour the colors in a pleasing way). It looks to me like Motiv - using the old Brunswick facilities - has the same limitation, which is why they needed to come up with something bold and colorful to offset those limitations. Hence, the NeoMark graphics were incorporated, and these look great. I love the way that the two Forzas have looked.


Honestly, I thought this too. I remember seeing or hearing a report that the one who started motiv used to work for brunswick and then left when they decided to move to Mexico and started motiv. So thought he took over the facility or something
Title: Re: Peek at the Redline
Post by: milorafferty on July 01, 2015, 02:40:39 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought part of the reason why Brunswick moved is because they struggled to pour multi-colored balls in their old facility (at least, they couldn't pour the colors in a pleasing way). It looks to me like Motiv - using the old Brunswick facilities - has the same limitation, which is why they needed to come up with something bold and colorful to offset those limitations. Hence, the NeoMark graphics were incorporated, and these look great. I love the way that the two Forzas have looked.


Honestly, I thought this too. I remember seeing or hearing a report that the one who started motiv used to work for brunswick and then left when they decided to move to Mexico and started motiv. So thought he took over the facility or something

Tech-Line(Motiv parent company) used to make Cores for Brunswick, but was always a company of it's own. They also make other items that your local pro-shop probably uses.
Title: Re: Peek at the Redline
Post by: todvan on July 01, 2015, 06:11:14 PM
At least for me, solid colors make it easier to read down lane motion and something I like about the Motiv line.

Yes, solid with a contrasting logo shows the skid, hook, roll best for me.
Title: Re: Peek at the Redline
Post by: Walking E on July 01, 2015, 06:51:44 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought part of the reason why Brunswick moved is because they struggled to pour multi-colored balls in their old facility (at least, they couldn't pour the colors in a pleasing way). It looks to me like Motiv - using the old Brunswick facilities - has the same limitation, which is why they needed to come up with something bold and colorful to offset those limitations. Hence, the NeoMark graphics were incorporated, and these look great. I love the way that the two Forzas have looked.

This is a common misconception.

MOTIV has a separate plant from the old Brunswick plant.  Always have been and always will be 2 separate operations and buildings.

Cool, that's good to know. As I said, I could be mistaken and I was.

Still, it's interesting that Motiv still keeps the ball colors somewhat plain and goes all in on the Neomark graphics instead.
Title: Re: Peek at the Redline
Post by: Ken De Beasto on July 01, 2015, 07:03:53 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought part of the reason why Brunswick moved is because they struggled to pour multi-colored balls in their old facility (at least, they couldn't pour the colors in a pleasing way). It looks to me like Motiv - using the old Brunswick facilities - has the same limitation, which is why they needed to come up with something bold and colorful to offset those limitations. Hence, the NeoMark graphics were incorporated, and these look great. I love the way that the two Forzas have looked.

This is a common misconception.

MOTIV has a separate plant from the old Brunswick plant.  Always have been and always will be 2 separate operations and buildings.

Cool, that's good to know. As I said, I could be mistaken and I was.

Still, it's interesting that Motiv still keeps the ball colors somewhat plain and goes all in on the Neomark graphics instead.
+1 color is plain but the neomark graphics are on pointttt
Title: Re: Peek at the Redline
Post by: stormed1 on July 06, 2015, 09:10:44 PM
 Performance: Medium Oil / Benchmark
Motion
 WWRD: August 26, 2015
 Weight Range: 12# - 16#
 Inner Core: Torxâ„¢
 Coverstock: Helixâ„¢ Pearl Reactive –
NEW!
 Finish: 5000 Grit LSP
 15# RG: 2.50; Diff: .051
 Cover Color: Yellow Pearl
 NeoMarkâ„¢ Color: Red/Silver Prl
KEY SELLING POINTS
 Push the limit with the exotic Forza Redline. Engineered for medium
oil, it is the ultimate machine for benchmark performance. It
provides more length than the solid Forza, yet is still offers more
control than the Octane.
 The powerful Torxâ„¢ weight block in the Forzaâ„¢ Redline delivers a 2.50 RG and .051 differential
on the 15# model. It revs up easily and is capable of generating over 5” of track flare.
 The Forzaâ„¢ Redline is equipped with New Helixâ„¢ Pearl Reactive cover stock to provide length
and retain energy on medium oil. This performance feature enables the ball to drive through
the pins with maximum power.
 Being a benchmark ball, competitive bowlers will certainly use the Forzaâ„¢ Redline to gauge the
lane pattern. On a typical house shot, because the ball is so versatile, it will match up well with
a wide array of league bowlers.Utilzing completely new technology, the Forzaâ„¢ is precisely
tuned for a smooth and powerful motion on medium oil. It displays relentless power.
Title: Re: Peek at the Redline
Post by: Freddy on July 08, 2015, 01:03:21 PM
I love my FORZA!! And  I can't to get this.  I will be using my Forza on the Chameleon this evening.  Excited!