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Equipment Boards => Motiv => Topic started by: machine189 on October 12, 2015, 09:02:04 AM

Title: Redline
Post by: machine189 on October 12, 2015, 09:02:04 AM
Am I the only person who’s redline is an angular monster?? I bought this ball to be a benchmark piece and for how smooth it’s supposed to be. Honestly this ball flips harder than any symmetrical ball I ever thrown. I’ve tried box, and 3000 grit neither offered the smooth arc everyone has been talking about. Currently I’m at 2000 grit polished and it seems more playable now but still so strong on the backend. HOWEVER BALL HITS HARDER THAN ANY BALL I’VE THROWN RECENTLY. Probably gonna look at one of the vengeance for the smooth reaction
Title: Re: Redline
Post by: Bowler19525 on October 12, 2015, 09:32:02 AM
This seems to be a common comment about this ball.  My PSO drilled one for himself and is unable to use it on a THS.  Too angular. 

Was bowling next to a guy a couple of weeks ago with one, and he said he has not yet found a shot with enough oil to use it consistently.  He throws it in practice for fun, but not in leagues.

A family member has one.  Pin 2" above bridge, CG in grip center.  OOB finish plus light polish.  Ball goes very long, but when it flips, it flips!  Awesome carry when it hits.

Title: Re: Redline
Post by: vkowalski1970 on October 12, 2015, 10:24:30 AM
I had same issue.  Needed a ton of oil for me to smooth it out. I sold mine
Title: Re: Redline
Post by: billdozer on October 12, 2015, 10:50:10 AM
I had that problem ceith the good old critical theory..had to polish it. 
Title: Re: Redline
Post by: scotts33 on October 12, 2015, 11:06:42 AM
My 2 cents......If I was going to use a Redline as a benchmark ball for my PAP I'd drill pin under bridge which for me would be a 78*(PAP-pin-PSA)x4 3/4"x65*.  I believe this would smooth it out and work better as a bench mark.  If others are drilling pin up versions I would guess that it would be very angular and not a bench mark reaction at all.  I would also try at 4000. 
Title: Re: Redline
Post by: spmcgivern on October 12, 2015, 12:26:38 PM
Perhaps the Redline is more angular than people expected.  Hopefully this knowledge will assist the future purchases in setting up the ball correctly.  But isn't angular what the general public wants.  And if you look at Motiv's lineup, the difference in reaction shape between the Forza and the Octane is pretty wide.  As more and more Redlines are drilled, the proper set up will be easier to obtain.

I remember the Frantic when it came out.  For me, that ball was a skid/snap disaster.  In hindsight, perhaps the surface prep and drilling could have set the ball up better for me.  Unfortunately I didn't have any knowledge to go by other than a hybrid of the Furious and Fast.

If the intent is to have this be a benchmark ball, then the drilling probably shouldn't be a "skid/flip" type drilling the way most bowlers have their equipment drilled.  90% of equipment at our house is "pin-up".  Drill the ball according to the purpose and hopefully it will be as needed.  If bowlers are able to smooth the reaction out closer to what they see from the Forza, then the versatility of the Redline will be great.  But we will have to wait and see.