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Equipment Boards => Motiv => Topic started by: tgs300 on August 27, 2015, 10:58:25 AM

Title: Revolt Havoc?
Post by: tgs300 on August 27, 2015, 10:58:25 AM
http://www.bowlingball.com/products/bowling-balls/motiv/12300/revolt-havoc.html
Title: Re: Revolt Havoc?
Post by: milorafferty on August 27, 2015, 11:10:24 AM
Looks like the Covert Revolt, just a different color.
Title: Re: Revolt Havoc?
Post by: HankScorpio on August 27, 2015, 11:22:15 AM
Looks like the Covert Revolt, just a different color.

Different cover.

But in practice, yea, probably not noticeably different for most.
Title: Re: Revolt Havoc?
Post by: milorafferty on August 27, 2015, 11:28:47 AM
Probably different in name only with a more aggressive finish. It wouldn't be the first time Motiv just changed the factory surface and sold the same ball in a different color.
Title: Re: Revolt Havoc?
Post by: tkkshop on August 27, 2015, 11:57:54 AM
I was told that this is the strongest symmetric in the line up.
Title: Re: Revolt Havoc?
Post by: spmcgivern on August 27, 2015, 12:00:56 PM
The last time I remember them doing that was the QZ days. The Blue, Purple and Red were the same ball except for surface grit.  In fact, the blue was a copy of the red.
Title: Re: Revolt Havoc?
Post by: Bowler19525 on August 27, 2015, 12:14:31 PM
Looks like a purple version of the Red Revolt, which was an international release:

http://www.abs300.com/balls_motive/red_revolt/index.html

Why not just sell the Red Revolt stateside?
Title: Re: Revolt Havoc?
Post by: billdozer on August 27, 2015, 12:16:16 PM
Too many red balls idk
Title: Re: Revolt Havoc?
Post by: SVstar34 on August 27, 2015, 12:28:53 PM
I was told that this is the strongest symmetric in the line up.

Stronger than the Remix?
Title: Re: Revolt Havoc?
Post by: lefty50 on August 27, 2015, 12:43:20 PM
What a backside ugly ball, and that's Ugly with a capital UGH.
Title: Re: Revolt Havoc?
Post by: Brickguy221 on August 27, 2015, 03:24:57 PM
What a backside ugly ball, and that's Ugly with a capital UGH.


Not any worse than the Forza Redline. To me that Redline is not only ugly, but is going to be even more ugly the more it is used as it is going to show everything.
Title: Re: Revolt Havoc?
Post by: relentless1 on August 27, 2015, 03:58:16 PM
I'm not a fan of single color balls. But I'll make an exception with the Redline because of how much I really like the Forza.
Title: Re: Revolt Havoc?
Post by: J_w73 on August 27, 2015, 04:11:29 PM
Turmoil HFS (High Friction Solid) cover stock  vs  Helix HFS Solid Reactive.  Forza had the Helix Solid Reactive.  So modified (or same) Forza cover on a Vanquish core ?

Why isn't this ball on Motiv's site? 
Title: Re: Revolt Havoc?
Post by: tkkshop on August 27, 2015, 07:01:58 PM
SV, yes. I was told that this ball will be stronger. It already has a stronger core and I was told a stronger cover.
Title: Re: Revolt Havoc?
Post by: relentless1 on August 28, 2015, 05:02:35 PM
I was thinking the next Motiv ball would be a solid heavy oil ball above the Jackal. I guess we'll see in another 45 days or so. Or maybe we'll see a pearl in the Tag line. 
Title: Re: Revolt Havoc?
Post by: dudester300 on August 28, 2015, 11:24:15 PM
Like relentless1 said... Thought motiv would have come out with a solid heavy ball...  So I couldn't wait just got a jackal!  Go motiv!
Title: Re: Revolt Havoc?
Post by: EL3MCNEIL on August 29, 2015, 08:14:42 AM
I like how the ball looks. Have been thinking of trying a MOTIV ball and this one has my interest. Can only afford two new balls this season though so I'm being very cautious with my decisions.
Title: Re: Revolt Havoc?
Post by: Matt Fortney on August 30, 2015, 09:06:35 PM
From my understanding, this ball is definitely NOT just a purple covert Revolt. The red overseas one was just a color change. This has a different coverstock. It's an earlier reading, slightly stronger motion. It will be taking the place of the Covert on the chart. If it wasn't a better option for that spot on the chart, it wouldn't be being released. I for one, am cautiously excited. The covert is my favorite ball ever. So even though I'm disappointed to see it being replaced, if the havoc ends up being better...whoa.

And to answer the question regarding why it isn't on the Motiv site yet...just too early. The Redline came out just last week. This one doesn't come out until mid October. I don't think they want to take any attention away from the Redline yet.

Matt
Title: Re: Revolt Havoc?
Post by: Brickguy221 on September 03, 2015, 05:48:48 PM
Here is a bit of information I received today on the Havoc, ....

  A new Revolt Havoc coming in the early fall and will have the same vanquish core in it as with all the other revolts. As far as shape goes, it is stronger and earlier than the original covert revolt but much more continuous down lane. Best suited for heavier oil patterns. 

Title: Re: Revolt Havoc?
Post by: ACES80 on September 16, 2015, 10:55:37 AM
it's on their site as of today!
Title: Re: Revolt Havoc?
Post by: Snakster on September 16, 2015, 02:17:23 PM
it's on their site as of today!

As of yesterday actually....but I'm not one to split hairs.   ;)