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Equipment Boards => Motiv => Topic started by: jimjames on March 03, 2022, 02:32:46 PM
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Have been waiting patiently for the NEW Blue Tank to take it's place among the new ball released status. Plenty of articles on the Purple Tank, but not so much for the Blue. Any idea on expected release date and difference from the Purple Tank? Thanks!
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I've heard it's the next ball after the Mythic Jackal so I'd expect late April.
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I'm hearing that, with all of the issues with urethane the Blue Tank has been pushed back to August.
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I'm hearing that, with all of the issues with urethane the Blue Tank has been pushed back to August.
Interesting. Especially with the new Venom showing up on TV with EJ today
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That's the next ball, it's supposed to be a Recoil replacement.
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The new ball EJ threw on TV today is the release following the Mythic Jackal.
After that I couldn't tell you, and there hasn't been anything official on why, but the Blue Tank has been pushed indefinitely, when we get information that we are allowed to share i'll pass it along.
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The new ball EJ threw on TV today is the release following the Mythic Jackal.
After that I couldn't tell you, and there hasn't been anything official on why, but the Blue Tank has been pushed indefinitely, when we get information that we are allowed to share i'll pass it along.
Thank you!
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EJ was throwing a Coral Venom (or Venom Coral) until the last game, when he switched to the Venom Shock.
Smallwood was throwing a Blue Tank in the opener. From what I hear he was killing everything with it this week. Smallwood looked great on the show but Sterner had a terrible look on the left lane and it torpedoed their chances. Much better look this time than when Wesley Low used it on the Players telecast.
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EJ was throwing a Coral Venom (or Venom Coral) until the last game, when he switched to the Venom Shock.
Smallwood was throwing a Blue Tank in the opener. From what I hear he was killing everything with it this week. Smallwood looked great on the show but Sterner had a terrible look on the left lane and it torpedoed their chances. Much better look this time than when Wesley Low used it on the Players telecast.
Not sure why Sterner and the ball rep decided on the Infamous because it looked horrible. Not sure why after going pocket 7-10 and almost leaving another one why he didnt change balls only to leave another pocket 7-10. Funny part is that when the PBA put up that graphic of the arsenal Sterner was using the Infamous was not on that list.
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I have made as much fun as anyone about Big Bowling, but admit that their ball looked good in Kent's hand. And their website has improved...some.
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I have made as much fun as anyone about Big Bowling, but admit that their ball looked good in Kent's hand. And their website has improved...some.
Kent’s ball looked good because he was piping it up the shim so it didn’t have time to puke at the pocket and flat ten lol. I have never understood why anyone pays the premium for balls from these tiny companies like Big Bowling or Swag when you get far better reactions at a similar price from main stream manufacturers.
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I have made as much fun as anyone about Big Bowling, but admit that their ball looked good in Kent's hand. And their website has improved...some.
Kent’s ball looked good because he was piping it up the shim so it didn’t have time to puke at the pocket and flat ten lol. I have never understood why anyone pays the premium for balls from these tiny companies like Big Bowling or Swag when you get far better reactions at a similar price from main stream manufacturers.
I can't disagree with that! ;D
I was just trying to be fair as I gave the supporters here of BIG Bowling a lot of shit when they first started out. Not that I think they will survive, but the brand had a good day at least.
As for price, on the BIG Bowling website, the prices are similar or lower than Storms balls.
But I'm still not buying one...
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The ball EJ was throwing is called the Blue Coral Venom. It uses the Venom Recoil core but seems to be a hybrid. https://www.bowwwl.com/bowling-ball-database/motiv/blue-coral-venom (https://www.bowwwl.com/bowling-ball-database/motiv/blue-coral-venom)
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I have made as much fun as anyone about Big Bowling, but admit that their ball looked good in Kent's hand. And their website has improved...some.
Kent’s ball looked good because he was piping it up the shim so it didn’t have time to puke at the pocket and flat ten lol. I have never understood why anyone pays the premium for balls from these tiny companies like Big Bowling or Swag when you get far better reactions at a similar price from main stream manufacturers.
I don't own balls from either company, but I did own Visionary and Lane #1 gear back in the day. There are a couple of Cal Bowling balls that I might try at some point because I'm curious, though.
The bigger point is I'm not going to crap all over small companies, because I want them all to be successful and I want the sport to grow. It's not good for the sport if we just got down to, say, B7 and SPI.
Visionary is sort of my prime example of that. From about 1999-2006, Visionary made some of the most unique pieces you could buy. Urethane with a real core? They made a couple. Big-engine pearl asyms? Check (and take a look sometime at the core in a Radical Spy and tell me it doesn't owe at least a tip of its cap to the AMB cores Visionary had). Particle something-or-other ball that was usable on a surprisingly wide range of conditions? Here's your Granite Gargoyle.
I understand if most people want to stick to a single manufacturer and I don't blame them; 90%+ of my stuff is SPI these days. But I was happy to see BIG get a win on the board nonetheless. Long may they run.
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So I'm now hearing that the Blue Tank is May. The delay has more to do with the appearance of the ball, which they want to more closely resemble the sheen of the Purple Hammer.
After that there will be a Top Thrill Solid and a new Pride.
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Looks like Double A (Andrew Anderson) used the Blue Tank today to make the stepladder finals tonight for Cheetah.
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May
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After the Blue Tank in May there is supposed to be solid Top Thrill and a new Pride in the pipeline.
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Distributor posted the Blue Tank today. May 18 release date. Also confirmed this will be a MCP cover, not traditional urethane.
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Is the Blue Tank a remake of the Desert Tank?
Numbers posted look identical.
Why did Motiv discontinue the Tank Blitz????????????
Why don't they bring that back?
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No. I don’t have the numbers but I’ve been told it’s a modified Halogen core.
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Is the Blue Tank a remake of the Desert Tank?
Numbers posted look identical.
Why did Motiv discontinue the Tank Blitz????????????
Why don't they bring that back?
Cover is a new version of Microcell Polymer Pearl, and the core is the one from the Top Thrill so it has more differential than the Desert Tank had. I can tell you from throwing the Blue it is a noticeable amount stronger than the Desert Tank, both in starting earlier and hooking more downlane. This is much closer in strength to Tank Blitz than the Desert. More to come as I get time to use mine and get video with it.
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Distributor posted the Blue Tank today. May 18 release date. Also confirmed this will be a MCP cover, not traditional urethane.
He confirmed it will be MCP? I posted a picture of the actual box, which clearly states MCP, weeks ago. Can you get him to confirm tonight's lottery numbers tomorrow?
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Is the Blue Tank a remake of the Desert Tank?
Numbers posted look identical.
Why did Motiv discontinue the Tank Blitz????????????
Why don't they bring that back?
Cover is a new version of Microcell Polymer Pearl, and the core is the one from the Top Thrill so it has more differential than the Desert Tank had. I can tell you from throwing the Blue it is a noticeable amount stronger than the Desert Tank, both in starting earlier and hooking more downlane. This is much closer in strength to Tank Blitz than the Desert. More to come as I get time to use mine and get video with it.
In fact, Motiv has the Blue Tank in the same ball guide position as the Tank Blitz.
The Blue Tank is 2.59/.023 while the Desert Tank was 2.57/.015 so definitely stronger in the way that the Top Thrill is stronger than the original Thrill.
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MJS - word had it there were actually 2 Blue Tanks at one point and there was a release delay from the initial introduction months ago. Blue Tank was supposed to be the April release and the Coral the may release, but they were switched. Why were they switched? Did a change occur? Don't know so I wanted to hear the final info from the company or in a release of information from the company.
If I still had them, I could show you a picture of a few test balls over the years I had that the cover on the test ball was not the cover on the officially released ball, so until I get confirmation from the company or actual distributed information, I don't pass anything along to my customers. As far as I know, the pic you or anyone else got was from a test ball and not the ball that will be released.
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Don - I don't know where you are looking, but I know Bowlersmart.com has the WRONG core pic and the WRONG core specs. Bowlersmart.com has the Desert Tank core and core specs for the Blue Tank, not the Halogen V2 core and core specs. That may be where your confusion is coming from....
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There have never been two Blue Tanks. The reason for the delay is that Brett had not been happy with the color and sheen of the Blue Tank and there have been at least three color changes since the balls were first given to the pros (which may be what you're referring to). They are trying to match the appearance and sheen of the Purple Hammer.
The info on Bowlersmart has been up since Wesley Low used the ball on TV and it was purely speculative. Their info is based on the Purple Tank and their picture of the Blue Tank is a color-Photoshopped Purple Tank.
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Gotcha. Someone said (obviously wrong) that there was a MCP Blue Tank (the one we are getting) and a true urethane pearl Blue Tank (obviously never was).
I had heard about the surface causing the delay....and wanting it to get more like the Purple Hammer appearance.
I ordered the 2 ball intro pack and am drilling one for myself so we shall see. Hope they arrive soon.
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How soon? Maybe I'd buy the other one from you.
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Don't know when they will arrive. I received the Coral Venom 2 ball pack on Friday April 1 (they are shipped direct from Motiv) when the Coral was to be released on Wednesday April 13. So about 2 weeks prior to the release date.
I have already sold the other "intro" pack ball and have an additional 9 on order from my distributor from pre-orders already. My customers that love Motiv loved the MCP balls so once I knew this was MCP, I knew I would sell a ton.
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The two ball packs typically ship 10-14 days before the release date if they ordered as soon as they are listed available to order. Release date of the blue tank is May 18, so Id say the 9th would be realistic to start seeing them.
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Just in time for me to take to Nationals! I leave on the 21st so regardless I should be good to go. Thinking about drilling a 2nd Blue Tank as well....
Probably will be taking some mix of the following:
1. Blue Tank #1
2. Blue Tank #2
3. Desert Tank
4. Covert Tank
5. Tank Blitz
6. Purple Tank
7. Venom Recoil
8. Spare ball
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That's a lot of urethane for the patterns I just experienced. And the Venom Recoil is not enough ball to make up the difference.
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Even on the left side? Our side is usually sooooo squeaky clean.....
I threw a Brunswick poured Purple Hammer last year for 8+ of the 9 games....
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Even on the left side? Our side is usually sooooo squeaky clean.....
I threw a Brunswick poured Purple Hammer last year for 8+ of the 9 games....
We had some lefties and they had the same issues. I saw urethane used effectively during Singles by a few, but not in Team and Doubles. But that was just a limited observation in my group and the sets I observed.
The UC3 had the best look of the urethane balls I saw being thrown, but I put mine right back in the bag and did much better with the Hy-Road, even in the last game of singles. I'm more speed dominate though.
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Gotcha - thanks for the notes.
I will throw a Shock into the mix then as well. The Coral probably won't make the cut...
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Gotcha - thanks for the notes.
I will throw a Shock into the mix then as well. The Coral probably won't make the cut...
I loved the look of my Coral in practice, but there was a lot more friction in the bowling center. The tournament venue played longer than what we saw in our practice session.
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I booked a practice session as well.
The Bowling Center ALWAYS has way more friction than the Plaza - so no doubt about the pattern playing longer in the Plaza.