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Vengeance
« on: January 15, 2015, 09:00:36 PM »
Pick mine up tomorrow!!  50x43/4x40. Can't wait to throw it tomorrow!!
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Re: Vengeance
« Reply #16 on: January 17, 2015, 12:04:54 PM »
Ive never used ufo but ive heard it's good. Figured that would help. I know ufo isn't supposed to clog the pores like control it not sure if control it would slow it down even more or not.....

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Re: Vengeance
« Reply #17 on: January 17, 2015, 12:53:29 PM »
Didn't like the tribal fire and not crazy about apex.

Why you didn't like the Fire?

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Re: Vengeance
« Reply #18 on: January 17, 2015, 02:01:10 PM »
For me the Cover was too quick to respond to friction without polish but with polish didn't handle oil well enough. I tried multiple surfaces and polishes and either it was too long or too early. I think that cover doesnt match up with my game
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Re: Vengeance
« Reply #19 on: January 17, 2015, 04:09:57 PM »
What layout was on the Fire?

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Re: Vengeance
« Reply #20 on: January 17, 2015, 04:11:39 PM »
40x5x60. P3
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Re: Vengeance
« Reply #21 on: January 17, 2015, 06:20:24 PM »
For me the Cover was too quick to respond to friction without polish but with polish didn't handle oil well enough. I tried multiple surfaces and polishes and either it was too long or too early. I think that cover doesnt match up with my game

How would you define your game? I got one recently and haven't drilled yet...

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Re: Vengeance
« Reply #22 on: January 17, 2015, 06:52:30 PM »
I'm 15-16 mph. 350 rev. 45 rotation 26 tilt.  With my tilt I usually don't have an issue getting the ball down lane. I normally don't use any polish and couldn't get the fire down lane once the first game was over, the cover was very fast to read friction. I even drilled it with a longer pin to pap for me. When I polished it, it wouldn't pick up hard enough on fresh and over reacted on the dry. I had a much easier time with the vengeance cover last night at 4000.

Keep in mind not every ball matches up with every person. I see many many people who love it. I just didn't. That doesn't make it bad.
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Re: Vengeance
« Reply #23 on: January 19, 2015, 09:19:58 AM »
So I tried Motiv this year after throwing mostly Rotocrip last season.  I had toyed with the change, then decided I was pretty comfortable with the RG stuff, and was going to stay with that......then I won a Tribal Fire.  Perfect opportunity to give the brand a try.  I had that drilled and really liked the way it rolled for me.  What puzzled me was it seemed much stronger than a light/dry condition ball. It rolled very early for me at the center I bowl in, so took some getting used to.  Well because of the way it rolled I went and bought a Primal Rage and have had a lot of fun with that ball.  I really like the continuation and hitting power the Motivs have for me.  Because of the shape and strength of the TF, I felt I still needed something that would allow me to move way right when the heads are fried, so I now have an Ascent Apex added to the arsenal.

Here is the frustration.  Seems like every new release, the balls just get better and better!  I know I don't really "need" them, but sure would like to try to keep up with all the new ones too!!  LOL  It's like a drug and I'm becoming addicted.  I was thinking I would get myself a Jackal to add to the upper end of the arsenal...but I normally don't see enough oil for that.  And now this ball??   So confused (but in a fun way)!!  Keep up the good work Motiv!!   (hmmm??  Revolt Vengeance or Jackal?    Or even Octane??)    haha

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Re: Vengeance
« Reply #24 on: January 19, 2015, 09:50:23 AM »
You can always drill the ball with a longer pin to pap to control the flair and save the energy. Also larger angels allow the Motiv balls to be used on lighter patterns. All the covers take surface or polish very well so you have lots of ways to make the Motiv balls fit your game and the house you are bowling in. Plus you get to get a new toy to play with as often as you like. Go Motiv

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Re: Vengeance
« Reply #25 on: January 19, 2015, 10:56:34 AM »
With me being higher tilt I usually dont drill long pin to pap's because I have a hard time controlling them, but I am seeing that motivs stuff is smoother than Storm/roto and looks like I can do it.

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Re: Vengeance
« Reply #26 on: November 09, 2015, 08:15:02 PM »
Just seen this post and saw you have the Haywire on your list. How does the covert vengeance compare to the haywire. Or to the Covert Revolt.  Also seen you post the venom shock was a weaker covert revolt. Was just curious how the tribal would compare to the venom shock. I have the tribal and was wondering if the venom shock would be a better compliment to my Covert Revolt.

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Re: Vengeance
« Reply #27 on: November 09, 2015, 08:49:00 PM »
The Haywire is much stronger and earlier than the Vengeance or Covert.....The Venom Shock is a must have ball....
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Re: Vengeance
« Reply #28 on: November 16, 2015, 06:38:46 PM »
To those of you that own this ball, does it remind you of anything from Storm/Roto?

I have one coming and I have never used a Motiv ball before so I was wondering where it might fit in?

By the way, is this a pretty good choice for my first Motiv ball.

House bowler bowling at a house with AMF Syn/Stone St and Brunswick Syn/shorter pattern than the AMF house.

Currently have,
Critical Theory
IQ Tour
IQ Fusion
IQ 30th coming
Uproar

With the IQ Tour being my main ball this year...Just got the CT

I sounds like it will be like my Fusion but go longer and a bit more angular.

Thoughts?

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Re: Vengeance
« Reply #29 on: November 16, 2015, 06:47:11 PM »
Stronger than Fusion but similar motion I think. I'd say pretty similar to the Marvel Pearl and Optimus, pretty close to a polished Asylum maybe?

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Re: Vengeance
« Reply #30 on: November 16, 2015, 07:02:57 PM »
Stronger than Fusion but similar motion I think. I'd say pretty similar to the Marvel Pearl and Optimus, pretty close to a polished Asylum maybe?

Thanks!