I have been shootin 700s with the motiv forza for a while now. And finally i shot my 300 with it!!!!!!!!! This ball is dam right versatile, I would start playing flat wrist throwing at 9 board then transition to cup uncup throwing at 19 board at the arrows. my last game i was standing 28 and throwin 19 at the board, moving half a board every 3 frameish then finally ten in the pit all ten frames!!!