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$800 First Place-- Marathon Tournament
« on: January 06, 2010, 06:58:43 AM »
Colony Park Lanes North is hosting on:
Sunday January 31st..
### THE DON KAUFFMAN MEMORIAL SINGLES TOURNAMENT ####
10am start time-- cost $50-- lineage $10, prize fund $40
10 game marathon on a modified house pattern.
$800 dollars for first place based on ONLY 40 ENTRIES!!!
High game and brackets also being held.
This will be by far the best tournament of the year to attend locally!!!
Call ahead and reserve your spot today.

Colony Park Lanes North
1900 Pennsylvania Ave. York, PA 17404
(717) 848-6262
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Re: $800 First Place-- Marathon Tournament
« Reply #31 on: February 01, 2010, 07:45:44 AM »
I'd have to agree.  8 hours to bowl 10 games is too long of a day.  One third of the house wasn't being used for the tournament.  I know you can't predict how many bowlers you are going to get but if all 36 lanes were used, it could have been 4-5 on a pair instead of 7.  plus i know there were some instances where guys were waiting over half an hour for their next game.  I don't think Rick was prepared for this kind of turnout, so he tried as best as he could considering the situation.

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Re: $800 First Place-- Marathon Tournament
« Reply #32 on: February 01, 2010, 07:51:08 AM »
I think that it was false advertising as far as the pattern was concerned.  It was brutal.  The middle might have been 35 feet but the outsides were like 55 feet, lol.  Not complaining it was tough, just saying this was not expected when I read it was going to be a "modified house shot".

The only way 4 bowlers per lane works is if you have a strike fest and people give 1 lane courtesy.  When it's 2 balls per frame with bowlers still trying to give 2 lane, or even pba courtesy, you have a problem.
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Re: $800 First Place-- Marathon Tournament
« Reply #33 on: February 01, 2010, 07:54:59 AM »
There were too many people on a pair and it took WAY too long.  It shouldn't take 8 hours to bowl 10 games.  Plus some people were still giving 2 lane courtesy even though it was announced that it was only 1 lane.  I understand that more people showed up than expected, but there should be a plan in place of that occurrence.  The pattern was tough especially lanes 1-4 which were blown apart by the 9th & 10th games when I got to the lower end.  I know that tournament patterns should be tougher, but there shouldn't be a huge jump in scores.  The difference between 2nd place and 3rd place was about 70 pin.  I also agree that Kevin should be compensated.  He did a GREAT job getting the scores for the tournament.
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Re: $800 First Place-- Marathon Tournament
« Reply #34 on: February 01, 2010, 09:19:35 AM »
Way too long to bowl 10 games, however the turnout was unexpected so not much Rick could do.  I do believe the Big Show pace was even slower and we only bowled 6 games and it took 7-8 hrs.  

The shot at first was ok, if you threw it good you could score, however by game 7 the heads were shot.  I do believe it should not have been advertised as a modified house shot, because that was the furthest thing from a house shot.  +170 +150ish +110ish was top 3 and then me at +24 was 4th.  took -78 to cash.  Very challenging pattern especially towards the end.  Some pairs were better than others but thats what happens with all those bowlers.  

I do think he will lose some entries next time due to the shot.  I know of a handful of guys that came thinking they could go +200 on a modified house pattern, turns out no one was +200.  

To me do not say what the shot is at all and you wouldn't have that problem.  All in all a decent tournament, just the pace took forever with all those bowlers.

just my .02
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Re: $800 First Place-- Marathon Tournament
« Reply #35 on: February 01, 2010, 12:00:27 PM »
First off, congrats to Don Pyle from Delaware on going +170 to win. I heard it was a shot makers pattern.

As a fellow TD I want to first commend Rick for fielding 82 players that is some accomplishment these days considering 30-40 is the norm. As someone who bowls tournaments, 7 to a pair is a bit much, regardless of the scoring pace. But Rick did what he had to do, allowed some lanes for open play so that Colony could rake in $3-4 a game versus the $1 he charged each bowler per game. Pretty sure had he turned people away, someone would have said why is he turning entries away...or...those turned away would have been mad they drove there and could play.

Mike hit it on the head, don't announce the pattern and then no one comes in with high hopes.
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Re: $800 First Place-- Marathon Tournament
« Reply #36 on: February 01, 2010, 12:16:51 PM »
I completely agree with Mike.  I think too many people came in expecting to put up decent scores, instead of a complete grind from start to finish.  It was as far from modified as it gets.  All in all it wasn't a bad tourney.  I got to see numerous flag 5 pins and a 91 beating a 90 in a bracket.  What more could you ask for?

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Re: $800 First Place-- Marathon Tournament
« Reply #37 on: February 01, 2010, 12:26:45 PM »
How many spots did he pay out?

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Re: $800 First Place-- Marathon Tournament
« Reply #38 on: February 01, 2010, 12:33:37 PM »
I believe there were 80 bowlers and they paid out 16...well actually 14.  I think the 15th and 16th spot got a 30 dollar credit towards an entry into a future tournament at CPN.

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Re: $800 First Place-- Marathon Tournament
« Reply #39 on: February 01, 2010, 01:05:27 PM »
He got 82 guys for a reason
MODIFIED HOUSE SHOT 10 GAMES FOR ONLY $50 WITH $800 ON TOP

However he probably will lose alot of guys because of the pattern.  I for one would much rather bowl on that pattern, but I want 80 guys to bowl, not 30.  Personally I bowl for the side action, the prize fund is a bonus in most cases, so the more bowlers the more brackets they will have.  I was in 100 total yesterday, whens the last time anything in the balt/northern va had 100?  The reason why is because alot of guys thought it would be a fairly easy shot and thats why the turnout was so good.  Every month at Hagerstown, theres 100 single and 30 doubles brackets and the tournament cost $25 a bowler, but they get 90 bowlers EVERY month.  Make it easy and cheap and you will get bowlers, its a fact!
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Re: $800 First Place-- Marathon Tournament
« Reply #40 on: February 01, 2010, 01:53:25 PM »
So let me get this straight, the TD lied as to what the lane condition would be?

Said one thing to get entries and did another after the entries showed up?

That's pretty low.

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Re: $800 First Place-- Marathon Tournament
« Reply #41 on: February 01, 2010, 02:31:14 PM »
No he didn't lie. He said it was a modified house shot.

You are the low one for making this assertion.

Who made you the judge any way?

 Were you even there???

Either bowl in these tournaments that you keep on trashing or shut up and go away.

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Re: $800 First Place-- Marathon Tournament
« Reply #42 on: February 01, 2010, 02:39:59 PM »
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No he didn't lie. He said it was a modified house shot.

You are the low one for making this assertion.

Who made you the judge any way?

 Were you even there???

Either bowl in these tournaments that you keep on trashing or shut up and go away.



Sorry but the east coast has too many good bowlers to ever have a -74 cash cut on any modified house condition and to only have 7 bowlers plus out of 82??

Sorry but not buying it.

Nice try but the TD really should fess up!

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Re: $800 First Place-- Marathon Tournament
« Reply #43 on: February 01, 2010, 02:57:47 PM »
Trump,

Your are an idiot.  A modified house shot could be anything.  Yes did most people think it would be easier of course, but something modified could be almost anything.  Did you bowl?  Ive seen many threats from you on here about people, who are you?  what do you bowl?  put up or shut up!
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Re: $800 First Place-- Marathon Tournament
« Reply #44 on: February 01, 2010, 03:55:48 PM »
Mike I agree with you. Donald Trump shut the f up. If you didn't bowl don't comment on the tournament. Rick did not lie he posted the pattern on this website. My biggest problem with the tourney was it took to long. Like I said before can't put 7 bowlers on a pair when the shot was that tough.
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Re: $800 First Place-- Marathon Tournament
« Reply #45 on: February 01, 2010, 07:52:04 PM »
I did not feel like traveling down from NY to bowl but if you want me to believe that a 35 foot flat pattern produces such a difficult scoring pace then you're smoking crack.  Just hearing the names of who bowled tells me this wasn't anywhere near a 35 foot flat pattern.  These guys bowl in eastern regionals all of the time on this pattern and shoot decent numbers and now -74 is 16th place out of 82 bowlers?  Sorry, still not buying it.

False advertising is right