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CHILLX

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KING PIN SUMMER SCRATCH CLASSIC
« on: February 17, 2011, 04:30:43 AM »

AUGUST 5TH - 7TH, 2011



AMF BOULEVARD LANES - GOLDSBORO, NC



$4,000.00 FIRST PLACE GUARANTEED



BASED ON 150 ENTRIES



ENTRY FEE $ 120.00 



 



ROUND 1 - BOWL 6 GAMES OF QUALIFYING TOTAL PIN FALL DOES NOT CARRY OVER TO THE NEXT ROUND -  CUT TO TOP 20



TOP 2 QUALIFIERS FROM EACH ROUND WILL AUTOMATICALLY ADVANCE TO TOP 20



TOP 20 ARE GUARANTEED TO CASH !!!!

 

ROUND 2 - 3 GAMES , CUT TO TOP 10 TOTAL PINS CARRY OVER

ROUND 3 - 1 GAME, CUT TO TOP 5 FOR STEP LADDER FINALS

 



UNLIMITED BRACKETS AND SIDE POTS 



 



PRIZE FUND PAYOUT AS FOLLOWS: 



 



2ND PLACE - $1800.00



3RD PLACE - $ 900.00



4TH PLACE - $ 800.00



5TH PLACE - $700.00



6TH - 10TH - $500.00



11TH - 15TH - $400.00



16TH - 20TH - $ 300.00 



 



CONTACT ME DIRECT WITH ANY QUESTIONS. FLYERS WILL BE AVAILABLE TOWARDS THE END OF APRIL.



 



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Edited by CHILLX on 2/28/2011 at 1:35 PM

 

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Re: KING PIN SUMMER SCRATCH CLASSIC
« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2011, 02:19:28 PM »
Here are a few suggestions.  This is your tournament to run, and please don't take these personally, just giving you my thought process (I bowl a good amount of tournaments).

 

1) Why the large jump from $4000/1st to $1800/2nd?  I like that you have kept 20th place over double your entry fee, but quite honestly you should spread that first place money out more.  Unfortunately, everyone is so obsessed with "guaranteed" prize funds that many won't even look past the first place payout, then be upset when they get 2nd and are only getting $1800.  The rule of thumb is 2nd should be AT LEAST half of 1st, and many would prefer closer to 2/3rds.  The bowler who wins is a happy camper whether they win $2500, $3000, or $4000.  But the lower places are going to think, "Wow, I bowled that well and was within ___ sticks of winning the tournament, but I only got some small percentage of what 1st place got".  This goes into my next suggestion.

 

2) Pay at least 1:6, if not 1:5.  Paying only 1:7.5 is in my (and other knowledgeable bowlers) opinion a cheap way to jack up the higher place payouts ($4000 for first in this situation).  A majority of people are going to drive X amount of hours looking to cash, and if they get all the right breaks, win.  But, only 1 person can win, so why not make 10 more people happy and pay top 30?  Ideally, I would like to see a $2500 guaranteed 1st place payout, then $1400/2nd, etc.  Use the extra money saved to at least give the last casher their entry fee back. The last casher will probably now end up +$200 on the weekend instead of +$80 (if they got in pots, brackets, etc), which makes a big difference (at least in our minds).  There is a very large tournament run in Baltimore in August that guarantees $2500 for first and both squads fill up each year.  The TD is able to pay 1:5 and give the last casher double their entry back.  I think this is why tons of people attend, and many are bowling just to cash, because they know they will need a CAREER weekend to win.  This is how you attract those bowlers who are on the fence; and if they see that huge 1st place payout and a low cash ratio, they will quickly decide not to attend. 

 

3) More qualifying games! I say 8 games is a perfect number, which you are close with 6 games.  But, I feel that with 6 games, one bad game can cost you whereas with 8 games, you can recover from a bad one. I am unsure how many squads you plan to run, but once again I will bring up the Baltimore tournament in for an example (as I believe this is one of the best run tournaments on the East Coast).  The TD runs two squads, both on Saturday, at 9:00am and 4:30pm. 9 games of round robin match play is on Sunday for those who make cut. He even has a 6 game sweeper Friday night, which helps to make the trip worth it for people who will be traveling from afar.  Many bowlers choose to bowl both squads, as there is tons of side action to go around.

 

4) The oil pattern needs to be more of a middle range pattern. I like that you make the lane conditions very demanding, but 48 feet flat really freaks people out (unfortunately). I would like to see something in the 38-41 foot range that can cater to many styles of play. Many people will hear 48 feet and say, "Well I can't rev the ball up enough to score on that!" which we know is completely untrue, as you can rev it up all you want and the ball will not think about moving. Basically, you might be scaring people away with that long of a pattern, and think a medium length 2:1 ratio pattern would cater to more bowlers. 

 

Again, these are only suggestions, but if you do decide to take these into account, I (along with several other of my friends) may entertain the idea of driving down there. Hope this helps.    

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Re: KING PIN SUMMER SCRATCH CLASSIC
« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2011, 04:42:05 AM »
I already have a truck full of people ready to make the trip down there again. let me know when you get the flyer out so I can show it around and get a few more people interested.


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Re: KING PIN SUMMER SCRATCH CLASSIC
« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2011, 08:57:21 AM »
OK, there's a problem with several things that you have suggested. 8 game block would only increase the lineage and make the prize fund smaller unless I increase the entry fee which I can do. For $120.00 though I do not think you can get a better payout. Eric Ramos runs a tournament down in Florida and the entry is $250.00 and pays out really good. When I first got interested in doing this tournament 6 years ago I asked around and people liked the $100 to $120 range. For the money being paid I think its great the way it is. 

 

Thanks for you input but no changes need to be made in my opinion. And I learned a long time ago you cannot let the bowlers run the tournament and format, that is why I set the prize fund this time and that will be what it is.  


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Re: KING PIN SUMMER SCRATCH CLASSIC
« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2011, 11:02:10 AM »
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Re: KING PIN SUMMER SCRATCH CLASSIC
« Reply #5 on: April 07, 2011, 12:22:41 PM »
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Re: KING PIN SUMMER SCRATCH CLASSIC
« Reply #6 on: April 28, 2011, 09:06:58 AM »
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Re: KING PIN SUMMER SCRATCH CLASSIC
« Reply #7 on: April 28, 2011, 10:07:21 AM »
I have a question about Round 1, Is there only 1 squad of 6 games to qualifier for the top 20? Or are there more squads in Round 1?

 

That is a big drop off from 1 to 2 but the prize fund looks good.... Like you said IT is what it is! Love It! A tournament director with a backbone!


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Re: KING PIN SUMMER SCRATCH CLASSIC
« Reply #8 on: April 28, 2011, 11:02:45 AM »
Yes backbone is good !!!

 

But anyway the 6 games cut to top 20 after all 5 squads.

 

 


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Re: KING PIN SUMMER SCRATCH CLASSIC
« Reply #9 on: April 28, 2011, 11:10:12 AM »
Would like to know the times of the squads? Very interested in the tournament.


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Re: KING PIN SUMMER SCRATCH CLASSIC
« Reply #10 on: April 28, 2011, 11:17:01 AM »
FRIDAY 4PM & 8PM (TOP 2 FROM EACH SQUAD ADVANCE

SATURDAY 4PM & 8PM (TOP 2 FROM EACH SQUAD ADVANCE

SUNDAY @ 10AM (TOP 12 ADVANCE)

 

FINALS BEGIN @ 1PM SUNDAY

 


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Re: KING PIN SUMMER SCRATCH CLASSIC
« Reply #11 on: May 09, 2011, 11:42:00 AM »
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Re: KING PIN SUMMER SCRATCH CLASSIC
« Reply #12 on: May 24, 2011, 06:23:59 AM »
BUMP !!!

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Re: KING PIN SUMMER SCRATCH CLASSIC
« Reply #13 on: May 24, 2011, 12:17:23 PM »
Still can't wait for this one. Have two car loads full ready to make the trip from MD. Might get a few more before its time to go.


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Re: KING PIN SUMMER SCRATCH CLASSIC
« Reply #14 on: May 24, 2011, 12:51:55 PM »
COOL THANKS, SHOULD HELP THAT I AM GUARANTEEING THE TOP 2 FROM EACH SQAUD A SPOT !!!!!

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