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tommygn

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Urethane Bowling League
« on: January 07, 2010, 12:42:40 AM »
Red Crown bowling center in Harrisburg, PA will be running a urethane only league. It will be Tuesday evenings with a start time of 7:00 we will be starting on February 2nd. League will be bowled on a low volume house condition.
Approved balls are Storm’s Natural, AMF Hype urethane and Angle urethane remake, Seismic Desperado, Visionary Ogre urethane, Lane #1 Liberator, and Brunswick urethane Groove.
Rules on plugged balls are as follows no more than 3/8” plug material around any hole. No plugged balance holes will be permitted.  
League will consist of 4 games, bowling against all bowlers every game, with a bonus point awarded to high bowler for each game, and subsequent points based on total number of league bowlers. This is a scratch league.
The league will run for twelve weeks ending April 20th.

No polyester balls for spares will be allowed.

All urethane balls will be permitted (Hammers, Angles, Sumos, LT48s, etc..) as long as plug rules are followed.
Cost will be $15 a week.


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Re: Urethane Bowling League
« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2010, 09:37:44 AM »
Sounds like a fun league for sure...

...but why the restriction on plastic spare balls?
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Re: Urethane Bowling League
« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2010, 11:52:00 AM »
The idea is to isolate the use of only one form of technology, level the playing field if you will. I thought through this, and figure that there will probably be at least one person wanting to use plastic for a strike ball, and this would defeat the purpose of the league. How do you tell someone they cannot use plastic for their first ball, but they can for shooting at spares. This is why I decided to allow urethane only.
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Re: Urethane Bowling League
« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2010, 12:11:43 PM »
My apologies for forgetting about the Visionary balls. Yes, they can be used. As far as leagues are concerned, you can put any rules into bylaws you want to. The USBC rule book takes over if there isn't a rule in place.
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Re: Urethane Bowling League
« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2010, 12:25:42 PM »
Chapter 2, rule number 1 of the USBC rule book (page 14).

Leagues and tournaments must be organized and bowled in accordance with USBC bylaws, rules and regulations. These events must be scheduled on lanes that currently are USBC certified and ONLY USBC approved equipment may be used.

No where in the rule book, at least that I have found, says that you have to allow all bowling balls in play.
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Re: Urethane Bowling League
« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2010, 01:06:36 PM »
I run the pro shop. We are offering a special on Storm Natural's. Purchase a Natural at our regular price of $135.00 (drilling included, thumb solids and inserts are extra), and after completion of the league (and all dues have been paid, you will receive a $25.00 gift card towards the bowling center. This brings the cost of the ball down to $115.00. The reason for the league to be completed first, is so that I don't have bowlers drilling balls for the sale price, and then not bowling the league. The main objective is to build a league, and if I got a little business from it, great. I have this on the flyer for the league. I was originally going to make it a one ball league, but I am most concerned about getting bowlers out and enjoying this great game. Hopefully, if all goes well, we may be able to bring a few bowlers out of retirement that have quit since the advent of resin.
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Re: Urethane Bowling League
« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2010, 01:27:54 PM »
I've been around bowling for a long time and in this business I've learned many things. This without a doubt is a good idea for a league...from a bowler's point of view. The vision is more ideal for a tournament, but not a league. Even though this league is 12 weeks long, you can't expect a lot of bowlers to congregate and bowl this league. It forces them to buy equipment or hunt for items that are hard to find for some.

The vision for a sport shot league with give-a-ways (cash/prizes) is more ideal, rather than using all balls with the same shell. All of the balls you've mentioned have different RG's and Diff's and can be laid out differently as well. You can't tell people what to throw not unless there is something to bowl for (a lot of cash - then its worth the while!). Someone was trying to run something like this a while back and really didn't turn any heads. I really hope I'm wrong and wish you the best.
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Re: Urethane Bowling League
« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2010, 01:52:27 PM »
Thank you for sharing strikezone.
I feel it makes more sense to buy a ball (if you do not already own one and wish to bowl this league) for a 12 week league, rather than for a one day tournament. If all goes well, we will run the league again. But for now, I really think that to keep bowling centers a float, we need to look at any and all possibilities at getting some of the millions of bowlers we lost back into the centers, even if it is only for 12 weeks at a time.


We already run PBAX leagues. They are sunday nights, and are doubles/scratch. They run for 10 weeks a time.
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Re: Urethane Bowling League
« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2010, 02:38:56 PM »
Awesome idea Tommy!
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Re: Urethane Bowling League
« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2010, 02:52:47 PM »
Great idea! Just wish i lived closer
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Re: Urethane Bowling League
« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2010, 05:23:57 PM »
Tommy, Excellent idea, too bad I run a league at North, and who cares if it has certification or not. The type of bowler you will draw probably already has a ton of award scores and they just want to do something different or become better at their accuracy.
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Re: Urethane Bowling League
« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2010, 05:33:15 PM »
Don't get me wrong. I totally understand where your idea is going. But what are the benefits other than the obvious? Those bowlers are gone and you have to deal with it. I'm the president of the league that I sponsor and you just can't tell a bowler to buy from you and bowl in this league. You can't act like you need to profit from the bowler, tell him this is the only kind of ball you need, and bowl this league. You need to target the bowlers that have no clue about the sport and allow them to embrace any league because of your well doing, not because you're forcing this idea upon them. You can't sell the idea of bowling. The only way to get these people in the doorway is by the little things you do - educate them.

I hope you don't take it the wrong way, but that is why I had mentioned it's more suitable for a tournament. Your targeting a certain group. If the group likes the idea of the tournament then come up with a bragging rights league or something along the lines. It's just too obvious and laid out for whomever is walking in the doorway. It feels like there are too many questions to be had on the customers end. Given our current economic status, you can't expect a bowler to buy a ball from you and that's what it's coming down too. Everyone needs to make a buck, but don't feel like there are any strings attached.

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Thank you for sharing strikezone.
I feel it makes more sense to buy a ball (if you do not already own one and wish to bowl this league) for a 12 week league, rather than for a one day tournament. If all goes well, we will run the league again. But for now, I really think that to keep bowling centers a float, we need to look at any and all possibilities at getting some of the millions of bowlers we lost back into the centers, even if it is only for 12 weeks at a time.


We already run PBAX leagues. They are sunday nights, and are doubles/scratch. They run for 10 weeks a time.
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Re: Urethane Bowling League
« Reply #12 on: January 07, 2010, 06:04:56 PM »
This is a great idea,I have 10-14 people that would join now if this was in the lower west coast
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Re: Urethane Bowling League
« Reply #13 on: January 08, 2010, 07:58:01 AM »
StrikeZone - He's not saying the participant has to buy anything from his shop. All he's running is a special. Buy the ball for $40 less than retail from him and bowl the league, he'll give you credit for the center/shop.  Never stated that the urethane equipment needs to be bought from his shop at Red Crown.
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Re: Urethane Bowling League
« Reply #14 on: January 08, 2010, 08:40:26 AM »
First off, thank you to all who have posted so far. All of your input is greatly appreciated. I do want to clear a few things up, though. This league is about getting bowlers into the bowling center, who may have dropped out after the reactive resin days, or are looking to hone their shot making abilities.

It is not my intention to make a bunch of bowlers go out and buy a ball from me. This is why I didn't include my special on the original post. I said that in response too another comment.

Strike, I see that you work in the pro shop, so I know that you know that after the price break and time and materials spent to drill, my profit for the ball, if purchased through me, is very very minimal.

On the other hand though, any competitive tournament bowler should have a urethane piece in his or her bag, in my opinion. This gives that said tournament bowler an opportunity to use that ball for a minimum of 12 weeks. how often have bowlers gone out and bought the latest release, only to find out that they can only use it once maybe every few months, when they encounter enough oil, or enough friction for that ball to shine.
It will also allow said bowler 12 weeks of working on different hand positions, and different spin and speed techniques, without the option of just switching cover stocks. It will force the bowlers to work on their game.

I also feel that it will give the bowlers a chance to bowl in an enviroment that will not change as quickly, do too some of the high friction balls that some bowlers use at the wrong times in regular leagues today.

Bowlers will have to work on flattening out their releases for spares, as we are not allowing plastic balls. This will help them in tournaments when using a reactive ball, and the best look is going straighter, alla Norm Duke.

There are really many advantages to a league of this sort, and hopefully we will get enough participation for it to run with multiple sessions throughout the year.

I think modern technology is great!! I do think, though, we are quick to change balls, when maybe a subtle change in technique would benefit, and this league will help hone those skills.
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