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Post by: Brunner on April 06, 2007, 08:42:22 AM
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Post by: Bar5003 on April 06, 2007, 09:31:06 AM
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3 days till the announcement.
3 whole days?!? but we want to know NOW!
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Post by: TTforshort on April 06, 2007, 09:53:34 AM
I am holding off on buying a ball until I find out what Phil will be up to.
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Post by: FastTracker33 on April 06, 2007, 10:09:49 AM
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Post by: Bar5003 on April 06, 2007, 10:12:15 AM
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C'mon has it been 3 days yet! I want to know more info before i die! .. Guess im not buying that Action Attack i found on ebay.. im saving me money for 300 Global
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Post by: B Pirnie on April 06, 2007, 10:12:45 AM
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Post by: Brunner on April 06, 2007, 10:28:19 AM
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Post by: directdrill on April 07, 2007, 04:24:11 PM
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Post by: 102101 on April 07, 2007, 06:10:10 PM
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Post by: Rev_O on April 08, 2007, 02:13:34 AM
I'm sure Phil will let us all know when the time is right. Personally, I can't wait to see what he has planned for the near future! IF I bowl next season, I'll be sure to punch out a few of his latest and greatest!
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Post by: FastTracker33 on April 09, 2007, 01:10:41 AM
GIVE ME INFO, OR GIVE ME DEATH!
Me want PHOENIX!
Almost time people!
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Post by: revTrex on April 09, 2007, 01:32:37 AM
Perhaps we could know the time zone of the company?
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Post by: legend4life95 on April 09, 2007, 07:00:29 AM
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Post by: legend4life95 on April 09, 2007, 01:30:10 PM
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Would the announcement come on the dynothane website or this one.
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I don't think Phil has any ties to D/T anymore so I don't think it would be posted there.
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Post by: MAJM on April 09, 2007, 01:40:05 PM
quote:quote:
Would the announcement come on the dynothane website or this one.
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I don't think Phil has any ties to D/T anymore so I don't think it would be posted there.
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I made a mistake. I meant the dynothane forum or this forum. Sorry.
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Post by: CharlieBrown on April 09, 2007, 04:35:47 PM
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Post by: 20 YRS LATER on April 26, 2007, 01:51:43 PM
BECAUSE I'VE SEEN IT IN ALOT OF DIFFERENT POSTS.
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Post by: thirtyclean on April 26, 2007, 01:57:44 PM
I need another Threshhold NGS, which I was lucky enough to
get one of the few seeds ! 15 in a row (across two games, shucks)
the other night with this baby !
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To
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Post by: fins4ever88 on April 26, 2007, 02:07:48 PM
Or The Big Thing?
Or you're just saying this stuff and the fact that Next is capitalized is just a mistake on your part and I'm trying to get clues from nothing
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Post by: charlest on April 26, 2007, 06:59:42 PM
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Post by: tekneek on April 30, 2007, 07:23:49 AM
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Post by: fins4ever88 on April 30, 2007, 01:34:59 PM
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heard rumor, it was solid soaker type cover, with new core
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Post by: newguy on May 01, 2007, 09:07:55 AM
quote:quote:
heard rumor, it was solid soaker type cover, with new core
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Hopefully before. finalizing production as we speak.
Post by: manu57 on May 01, 2007, 09:43:49 AM
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Post by: fins4ever88 on May 01, 2007, 01:28:31 PM
quote:quote:quote:
heard rumor, it was solid soaker type cover, with new core
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Hopefully before. finalizing production as we speak.
Sweet! I was planning on sticking to 3G as my main company as soon as they came out. My dad is gettin' me a new ball soon and I wanted to get a Vendetta or some other Dyno-Thane for their durability, but I guess now I can wait for the first 3G release!
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Post by: DanH78 on May 01, 2007, 01:38:27 PM
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I think one big question Phil is where will production be located? I know there has been a lot of speculation about Brunswick. Is there any truth to it?
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They bought the old Columbia 300 facility
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5005 west is the main Columbia headquarters plant and warehouse. 4837 is the office and warehouse adjacent it also housed the Columbia test center. Former Track offices. So now we all know and there is no need to speculate.
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Post by: tenpin on May 01, 2007, 06:42:18 PM
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Post by: DanH78 on May 01, 2007, 10:56:33 PM
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Won't the ball/balls have to be approved by USBC before they could announce a release date?
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Why?
Sanctioned leagues are done for the year.
And I don't know the process, but I could see a new manufacturer submitting a ball but requesting that it not be made official until the company makes it public
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Post by: shelley on May 01, 2007, 11:03:09 PM
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Why?
Sanctioned leagues are done for the year.
Summer leagues, anyone? The ones I bowl in are sanctioned.
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And I don't know the process, but I could see a new manufacturer submitting a ball but requesting that it not be made official until the company makes it public
Typically we find out about new releases from the approved ball lists from the USBC or the PBA. At least the name if no other details.
SH
Post by: EricThomas on May 02, 2007, 09:22:56 AM
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Post by: thirtyclean on May 02, 2007, 09:37:57 AM
old Columbia plant sold also ? Would this meen that Global 300 would have to
bring in their own pouring and processing equipment ? Rumor here in Chicago,
is that it is just an empty building, but this guy probably dont know
what he is talking about, but hears stuff from his pro shop ball reps.
Oh well, will have to sit and wait and see the good stuff from Global300 !
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Post by: shelley on May 04, 2007, 02:51:03 PM
quote:
When Ebonite bought Columbia/Track/Dynothane/AMF, was the equipment in the
old Columbia plant sold also ?
Ebonite didn't get the manufacturing equipment, it stayed in San Antonio. Storm, however, did buy some if not all of it. Storm had been contracting with C300 to make the Tropicals and Jolts, and they bought the equipment to expand their capacity and bring all their manufacturing back under the Storm roof.
Maybe 300G kept some of it for themselves so that they can do their own manufacturing, I don't know.
SH
Post by: qstick777 on May 04, 2007, 03:22:10 PM
quote:quote:
When Ebonite bought Columbia/Track/Dynothane/AMF, was the equipment in the
old Columbia plant sold also ?
Ebonite didn't get the manufacturing equipment, it stayed in San Antonio. Storm, however, did buy some if not all of it. Storm had been contracting with C300 to make the Tropicals and Jolts, and they bought the equipment to expand their capacity and bring all their manufacturing back under the Storm roof.
Maybe 300G kept some of it for themselves so that they can do their own manufacturing, I don't know.
SH
Since we're all spectulating......
It was an asset purchase. Who says that Ebonite did not get the manufacturing equipment? People have already said that Ebonite was continuing to run the equipment until April 8th, at which point they were going to move the equipment to their factory in Kentucky. That was presumably to finish out the contract for pouring the Lane#1 equipment.
It was also mentioned that Storm had purchased some of the equipment to expand their production capabilities. I wonder from whom they purchased it?
"Maybe 300G kept some of it...." Kept some of it? It wasn't their's to begin with! Now, perhaps Phil did manage to buy some of the equipment....we don't know.
The press release from 300G said "300 Global will distribute and is in the midst of securing manufacturing, its own brand of high performance high tech products." What does that mean? We don't know. Did they manage to purchase some equipment? We know that they are operating out of the old Track headquarters. It was always said that Ebonite didn't have any need/use for the buildings, so for another company to take over the payments/lease isn't unthinkable. It was assumed that the purchase was for the value of the equipment and the names.
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Post by: REVerse on May 05, 2007, 06:10:34 PM
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How soon until we see a website?
300Global must have the website in the works:
This error (HTTP 403 Forbidden) means that Internet Explorer was able to connect to the website, but it does not have permission to view the webpage.
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Post by: EricThomas on May 10, 2007, 08:35:36 AM
Web Posted: 05/10/2007 02:53 AM CDT
Harry Page and Travis E. Poling
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Former executives of two defunct San Antonio bowling ball manufacturers are preparing to get back into the business with the formation of 300 Global LLC.
Columbia Industries, best known for its Columbia 300 balls, also owned the Track brand, and Cardinale had become an executive with Columbia.
Earlier this year, Ebonite International bought the brand name of Columbia 300 and its other products, including Track, and is moving production to Kentucky. About 100 people locally lost their jobs.
Some of those employees will be rehired in the coming months when production starts again with 10 to 20 hourly employees, domestic sales manager Eric Thomas said.
"The heritage that was in this building was just incredible," Cardinale said of starting the new company in the 40-year-old Columbia plant with some of the remaining manufacturing equipment. The first employees back will be those with a long history "who knew everything about building a bowling ball from the core to the finish," he said.
Cardinale said he expects to have San Antonio-made products for sale again by June.
"We have some of the most experienced people in the industry available to us, as well as some of the best resins, too," Sellers said. "If you add up all the experienced people and contacts we have, it would be unfair to call this a startup operation."
300 Global will be the umbrella company under which it will distribute Dynoroos, AMF300 and its own brand of 300 Global performance balls worldwide.
Dynoroos, a high-end bowling shoe, soon will be sold by 300 Global as 3G. Ebonite acquired the Dynoroos name in the Columbia acquisition, but Cardinale owns the technology rights to the shoe itself.
300 Global will distribute its own brand of high-performance high-tech products. It is in the midst of securing manufacturing for those products.
Thomas said the feedback from bowling retail outlets has been positive.
"They still want the little guy around" to keep the larger players competitive, Thomas said.
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Post by: KDawg77 on May 10, 2007, 08:38:23 AM
Can 300 Global use the "Bowls the World over" slogan? It seems more appropriate now.
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Post by: trogdor on May 10, 2007, 10:57:20 AM
www.300global.com
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Post by: newguy on May 23, 2007, 05:41:05 PM
Post by: fins4ever88 on May 23, 2007, 05:42:41 PM
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Very soon!!!!!
Very soon...as in in the next hour!? Haha, j/k.
I'm really excited about 300 Global, I hope to be able to get the first release or maybe one of the first releases?
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Post by: zdfuhsdsbdbd on May 31, 2007, 06:48:03 PM
Post by: tenpin on May 31, 2007, 08:02:58 PM
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Post by: spinner031 on May 31, 2007, 08:05:09 PM
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I hear Global is going to be made by Ebonite! Wow, I thought they were going to pour their own stuff.
And yes, I agree, Tenpin, if he heard that, his sources must not be good at all. Why is there a rumor that EVERY company is being manufactured by or bought out by Ebonite International? Some say Brunswick, and now Global. I don't buy any of it?
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Post by: newguy on June 04, 2007, 09:03:55 AM
This would be a great forum to share info, especially if we share facts!!!! I'll be happy to answer questions pertaining to our company if it is info I feel should be shared. Speculation and myth just waste time and cause rumors. By the way did you hear we bought Brunswick
Post by: KDawg77 on June 04, 2007, 09:11:58 AM
All I can say is "I'm extremely curious and my interest is piqued."
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I'll be happy to answer questions
When do I get a free ball...........
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Post by: KDawg77 on June 04, 2007, 09:27:05 AM
quote:quote:
I'll be happy to answer questions
When do I get a free ball...........
DITTO!
Yeah, help a current San Antonian and a currently displaced San Antonian (in Georgia) advertise your new product and venture.
(psst...seed ball)
LOL!
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Post by: CharlieBrown on June 04, 2007, 09:28:06 AM
Good luck 300 Global!!!!!!!
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Post by: newguy on June 04, 2007, 09:54:27 AM
quote:quote:
I'll be happy to answer questions
When do I get a free ball...........
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quote:quote:quote:
I'll be happy to answer questions
When do I get a free ball...........
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Post by: KDawg77 on June 04, 2007, 10:23:07 AM
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Post by: jls on June 04, 2007, 12:11:56 PM
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It is not a Phoenix/ Inferno copy, I have no idea who makes this stuff up. We have developed our own core, much of the input came from the survey on this site. Production should start end of this week begining of next.
This would be a great forum to share info, especially if we share facts!!!! I'll be happy to answer questions pertaining to our company if it is info I feel should be shared. Speculation and myth just waste time and cause rumors. By the way did you hear we bought Brunswick
newguy, is that the same brunswick that bought storm?
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Post by: newguy on June 04, 2007, 01:53:08 PM
15# 2.47 .056 mid diff .020 new S70 coverstock. Black.
Post by: revTrex on June 04, 2007, 02:22:02 PM
Post by: newguy on June 04, 2007, 02:49:44 PM
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Post by: LowRG on June 04, 2007, 03:09:59 PM
Post by: CoachLefty on June 04, 2007, 03:12:21 PM
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Post by: shelley on June 04, 2007, 03:13:09 PM
quote:
ahhhh....me, sir new guy, want...sounds like a bad@$$ black vendetta on steroids...
Not sure about that. Given the large mid-diff, this sounds like a strong asymmetric ball, compared to the symmetric Black.
SH
Post by: revTrex on June 04, 2007, 04:03:36 PM
Post by: fins4ever88 on June 04, 2007, 04:33:40 PM
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Post by: tenpin on June 04, 2007, 05:33:50 PM
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Post by: fins4ever88 on June 04, 2007, 08:56:57 PM
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Im gonna say that we wont know a name until it is released, seeing as ebonite already stole the first one, don't want that to happen again.
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Can you say which one it was? The Gamebreaker or Raid possibly?
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Post by: Xfest on June 04, 2007, 09:04:39 PM
quote:quote:
Im gonna say that we wont know a name until it is released, seeing as ebonite already stole the first one, don't want that to happen again.
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Can you say which one it was? The Gamebreaker or Raid possibly?
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"Next" - it's going to be released in the Fall season. After bowl expo.
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Post by: DanH78 on June 05, 2007, 01:45:59 PM
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I am still wondering why somebody would say a inferno/phoenix copy. Why would you copy a ball that was not even part of the whole mix and then copy the phoenix which was already released in small quantitiy and cover and block is owned by now by Ebonite. I can't believe some of these people. Guess some people in other companies are just to worried about 300 Global they have to start spreading some of these rumors.....
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I'm wondering why the word "copy" would be used period. With all the bowling balls that Phil has developed over the years, I really don't think he has the need or desire to "copy" anything.
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Post by: tenpin on June 05, 2007, 05:40:02 PM
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I'm wondering why the word "copy" would be used period. With all the bowling balls that Phil has developed over the years, I really don't think he has the need or desire to "copy" anything.
EXACTLY!!!!!
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Post by: RealBowler on June 05, 2007, 09:13:46 PM
quote:quote:
I'm wondering why the word "copy" would be used period. With all the bowling balls that Phil has developed over the years, I really don't think he has the need or desire to "copy" anything.
EXACTLY!!!!!
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Phil rocks! It sucks if Ebonite stole the name, but that doesn't matter. They can steal all the names they want, but they can't take what is in Phil's head.
300G will rock! When are we going to see some balls?
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Post by: Nickonaut on June 05, 2007, 09:49:13 PM
2.47Rg? still staying down in the lower range? .020 is all for the Int. DIff...why not .035 or something higher than .020??
Really though, what is this new monster of a core design that makes the vendetta look like a sissy?
Post by: newguy on June 06, 2007, 08:24:13 AM
Post by: Djarum on June 06, 2007, 08:59:31 AM
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Post by: newguy on June 06, 2007, 09:32:07 AM
I'm assuming 1000 or less with go even sooner. 500 no polish just ate up the oil,so anywhere from 500 to 4000 had a place in the arsenal.
We are using very durable resin (hint) and a very versitle formula.
Post by: DanH78 on June 06, 2007, 09:50:48 AM
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We are tageting versitility. I am throwing mine with 4000 aberlon and high polish. Works well on mediums. I threw it with 2000 and no polish and it goes early. I used a really exotic drilling (over the label) with the spin spot just under my thumb. My version of a trick drilling.
I'm assuming 1000 or less with go even sooner. 500 no polish just ate up the oil,so anywhere from 500 to 4000 had a place in the arsenal.
We are using very durable resin (hint) and a very versitle formula.
Me want
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Post by: shelley on June 06, 2007, 10:00:51 AM
SH
Post by: themagician on June 06, 2007, 10:03:04 AM
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We are using very durable resin (hint\
Soaker?!?!?
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Post by: qstick777 on June 06, 2007, 03:22:56 PM
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We are tageting versitility. I am throwing mine with 4000 aberlon and high polish. Works well on mediums. I threw it with 2000 and no polish and it goes early. I used a really exotic drilling (over the label) with the spin spot just under my thumb. My version of a trick drilling.
I'm assuming 1000 or less with go even sooner. 500 no polish just ate up the oil,so anywhere from 500 to 4000 had a place in the arsenal.
We are using very durable resin (hint) and a very versitle formula.
When will I be throwing mine? I haven't received it yet. Do I need to send my address again? I'm pretty sure you said you were going to send me one to test......I'll have to see if I can find that message!
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Post by: onlybowling on July 20, 2007, 08:41:41 AM
I don't have to get a ball with the most extreme every-thing. I want a ball that works. I think that you discovered something with the Threshold and now with the Heist - you know how to make a ball that will work for a wide range of bowlers. I want to be able to build an arsenal that I can be confident in, regardless of the condition, without having to buy several different balls for the same condition in an effort to find the one that will work for my game.
Thank you for staying in the game.
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Post by: qstick777 on July 27, 2007, 07:29:49 PM
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I assure you it is not 900 global.
I believe jls is referring to this post:
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Playndag's got 15lb NIB Track stuff out the wazoo (Rick). Just bought a (once again) 15lb NIB Track EQUATION for $60, shipping included! Unbeatable. His e-mail address is 300 Global related. Maybe that has something to do with these things selling so dirt cheap.
Whatever!
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yes if so, it is so nice to see the people at global 300 undercutting pro shops.
yes, that makes me want to run out an order their new line of balls.
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I really don't think you can count the "deal" on the old Track stuff as "undercutting" pro shops.
I think it's widely known that some incredible deals were made on that stuff right around the time when the buyout happened. We all saw the postings about the large list of close-outs and discounts, although nobody ever said anything about the prices that were listed.
If people were selling the Circle balls for $60 shipped and still making money, I don't think it is unreasonable to believe that somebody can sell Equations at that cost and still be making money.
There are a ton of new releases coming out, so maybe they are trying to reduce inventory to make room for the new stuff.
Nobody will talk about pricing, but it's been said that it costs under $20 to make a ball. So, if the manufacturer has a 100% markup to the distributor, that's $40 a ball. If the distributor marks up another 100%, we have $80.
Now if the manufacturer wanted to dump the rest of the inventory before the buyout, they might be happy to make $5-10 a ball, so the distributor buys more and can (doesn't mean they will) sell for $50-60 and keep the same profit margin.
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Post by: Bar5003 on July 27, 2007, 09:55:20 PM
btw look what i started with this topic..almost 13,000 views!
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Post by: jls on July 31, 2007, 12:53:47 PM
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im gonna have to agree with playndag on this one...how is him selling track equipment, which he purchased for his shop unfair to other shops...they could have done the same thing...i must be missing something
btw look what i started with this topic..almost 13,000 views!
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not unfair at all for a pro shop to reduce and sell old equipment.
however the buyer said his e-mail address was global300 related.
which can be taken to mean that the seller of the equipment was not a pro shop, but a ball company.
which can be taken to mean that the ball company was selling directly to the consumer, bypassing the pro shops. if true!!!!
as it now appears, the buyer bought these ball from a pro shop on closeout.
don't understand where the global300 e-mail related thing came into play.
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Post by: tenpin on July 31, 2007, 05:41:51 PM
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Post by: newguy on August 01, 2007, 09:06:48 PM
Post by: jls on August 02, 2007, 05:43:24 PM
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I guess I am still confused by Jls. as playndog is a pro shop and there was a list that went out on closeouts. It is not undercutting pro shops but there was some stock left over at Globals warehouse after the buyout. I don't see anything wrong with Global trying to get rid of equipment that is just sitting around taking up space in their warehouse. I believe that the closeout list was givin to all proshops and staff members but I might be wrong. If that is the case how is that selling to the general public?
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tenpin, the person who bought the ball was the general public.
now if he bought it from a pro shop>>> no problem. but he was the one who brought up global300 " related e-mail" not me.
and if "a" ball maker sells closeouts directly to the public, they are indeed undercutting their pro shop customers.
now it appears>>> that "did not" happen here!!!!!!
now as for this so called closeout list.
never saw that, from global.
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Post by: jls on August 02, 2007, 05:47:35 PM
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We at Global had nothing to do with this. Eboite had purchased all the remiaining inventory, my assumption is that they sold it off or dumped it. I assure you all we could not legally sell it after Feb 9th. I do not understand how we are even mentioned in this.
newguy
the buyer stated " global 300 e-mail address related"
" maybe thats why they were so cheap"
that would lead some to believe that global was involved.
now you have said, you were not, and the pro shop said who he was.
and what he did.
no wrong doing here!!!!
but if you read the original post, the buyer brought up global300.
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Post by: revTrex on August 03, 2007, 04:56:33 PM
Hope this helps until newguy himself responds.
Post by: tenpin on August 03, 2007, 05:36:32 PM
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The reason for Storm pouring The Break was so that the ball would be definitely ready and so that nothing would go wrong with 900G's first release. After this one, they will be pouring everything themselves (or so I have been led to believe).
That is also what I was told. They just wanted to get the first ball out and did not have all of the tooling when the Break was planned by the time Storm was in the process they had all of the tooling and equipment. All further releases will be poured by Global including the Creature when it comes out. Which will probably be around Late August or possibly early September.
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Post by: Strapper_Squared on August 03, 2007, 08:53:51 PM
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Post by: EricThomas on August 09, 2007, 01:40:37 PM
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Post by: shelley on August 13, 2007, 10:47:44 AM
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Just the shoes will be registered or will the balls be registered as well?
Hardly seems worth registering when you only have one or two balls out. And no national staff, too. But there are a lot of guys who use the shoes.
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Post by: onlybowling on August 20, 2007, 06:22:09 AM
I don't think the move to include asymmetrical core shapes was sudden. If anything it was a slow methodical move. Production is based on demand and demand is based on perceived value. Strong asyms have a high market value. Every producer of balls wants to be the worlds largest seller. You can't fill a demand with products you don't have.
I could be wrong but, I think the Centrifugal Mass was Phils' first asym shape. And the CM was a really well received first entry into this market.
I am thinking that asym design is not new because tinkering with flip blocks, core densities, as well setting the core off center and at various degrees of angle is a form of asym design. The basic light bulb shape is a perfect example of the root of asym design because so much as been done with it. How the core weight distributed in the ball defines asym design.
We are seeing all of the companies experiment with core shape, and the way core shape alone influences hook shape and roll. Does this make sense... Single density cores are easier to produce, and it is easier to produce a ball that has a desirable alignment of the pin, CG, and MB, if a single core material is used?
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Post by: newguy on August 20, 2007, 09:18:39 AM
Several things have happened since the advent of asym. balls. The epiphany came when we study the influence of the spin spot (called Mb by marketers). We found that a mid diff of 0 (sym.) and a mid diff of .010-.015 performed differently but mid diffs greater than .015 had no added influence. What we did notice was that the shape of the core not the values of the mid diff influenced the motion. So in essence its the chicken or the egg theory. Is it the numbers or is the shape the answer and the numbers simply a by-product. We, (I) have always been a proponent of geometry as all of you know. The geometric shape of the core has the greatest influence on ball performance (next to friction ) that is. So I have started to design cores based on shape not numbers. What ever numbers we get from the shape are the numbers we will use, unless of course they are out of USBC spec.
Ironically we can duplicate all the numbers of one shape in another ball by changing densities or flip blocks, but found that they do not roll the same, so shape is the culprit here not the rg's diff's and strength of mid diff.
This is simply my findings and now applications.
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