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Title: Banger Bowling
Post by: Mvpbowler on September 06, 2007, 08:32:00 AM
I would like to take a few moments of your time to express my opinions and experiences with Banger.

I was hired to be a sales rep for Banger Bowling back in July. I worked Bowl Expo in the booth and I also made sales calls to try to get this product out into the public. I felt like there was something really good here with this product and the people around the company. My relationship with Banger unfortunately just didn't work. I believe our thought processes just weren't on the same level at this time.

I would also like to say that as much as my personal dealings with Banger Bowling didn't work out, that this company is trying to do the right thing for its customers. I always believed that David's thoughts and ideas were for the good of bowling and his customers!  I am sure that if there are any problems, Banger and Visionary will be able to work them out.

With that I would like to wish him the best of luck with the future of his company. I appreciate everything he did for me and the opportunity he gave me.

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Title: Re: Banger Bowling
Post by: NJStroker on September 06, 2007, 05:54:30 PM
U know George, that was a really good thing u did. Most people, if they didn't have a good experience, would've came on here and started bad mouthing the company. U had enough dignity to come on here and just state, u didn't agree with their ideas so u left. Thanks for being an honest person George and i wish u good luck in ur next endeavors.
Title: Re: Banger Bowling
Post by: NJStroker on September 06, 2007, 08:41:40 PM
IDK if that was a joke or not, but i dont get y it would matter, u can still understand it right, its just shortened.
Title: Re: Banger Bowling
Post by: lsf_21 on September 06, 2007, 10:00:54 PM
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So this is your shot at being different or showing U_R 2nd grade ED-U-Cate-Shun?
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Title: Re: Banger Bowling
Post by: fins4ever88 on September 06, 2007, 10:06:11 PM
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WALTER, U is spelled YOU and UR is spelled YOUR! Now too Banger, If you have to Steal an old Visionary weight Core & Cover like what's been done with the Hole Pounder series and the New OLD Hole Finder series, don't CHARGE higher prices than Visionary did when they sold these balls! If you Truly designed any of your balls and made them, then you (Did U see that Walter, it's spelled You) could sell your balls for Premium prices!
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Well, if you would like to challenge his way of posting, you should be available to be criticized also.

Only proper nouns are capitalized, so your random capitalization of "Steal" "Core", "Cover", "Truly" and "Premium" is incorrect. The fact that you capitalized the length of "OLD" and "CHARGE" is wrong too.

If you want him to be perfect, then I suggest you be perfect too.
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Title: Re: Banger Bowling
Post by: shelley on September 06, 2007, 10:12:29 PM
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WALTER, U is spelled YOU and UR is spelled YOUR! Now too Banger,


If you're going to be picky like that, at least learn the difference between "to", "too", and "two".    And capitalization has rules, you know?  You can't just capitalize words in the middle of sentences willy-nilly.  If you want emphasis, there are ways to do that as well.

SH
Title: Re: Banger Bowling
Post by: TWOHAND834 on September 06, 2007, 10:25:51 PM
I am not so sure that Banger went about this the right way, either.  You are taking a ball that came out roughly 5 years ago, changed the color and the name, and are selling it online almost the same price as the Blue Sparkle at retail in pro shops.  I just dont see the common sense and marketing genius behind this.  Maybe they were fast-tracking to making more money to get the company up and going.  Who knows?  I would love to get my hands on a Hole Pounder Pearl.  However, I can't justify paying almost 200 bucks as an online price just to get one when I can probably locate a NIB Blue Sparkle for less than half that (as I already did a year ago).
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Title: Re: Banger Bowling
Post by: throwitright on September 06, 2007, 10:50:20 PM

I can't justify paying almost 200 bucks as an online price just to get one when I can probably locate a NIB Blue Sparkle for less than half that (as I already did a year ago).
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Just wait, Mr. Atwood will be selling some balls on here for 100.00 real soon, that’s if he can get enough money to get the balls from visionary. (He will have a few here shortly) He finally got up enough money to send the hole finders to USBC.

He did promise shops that he would never sell them on-line. Liar!! People have asked him to explain himself about the ballreview fire sale. He talks out of both sides!!

Visionary does not need this type of publicity; Jason is a class person with a good rep in the bowling industry. IM very surprised he is still with banger, but what I understand is that several hole finders have already been made so Jason had no choice but to give Mr. Atwood another chance.


Title: Re: Banger Bowling
Post by: Bar5003 on September 07, 2007, 05:34:20 AM
And another one lost to the trolls...

Shame to hear that David...
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Title: Re: Banger Bowling
Post by: Amazing on September 07, 2007, 09:39:23 AM
I’m also sorry to hear that David. And speaking of morons, people like him don’t realize what century they are living in. Coming on here and posting a review or opinion is one thing, defaming a person or company is another. Here’s a little tidbit for you people that like to remain anonymous and post these nasty statements about people and companies.

 
Check it out bowlu4it & throwitright, they “CAN” find out who you are.
 
Libel involves false statements knowingly presented as fact. Cyberlibel is a catchphrase for defamation that takes place through the Internet, either on messageboards, email, blogs, chatrooms, personal websites, or other published articles.
In recent years cyberlibel has become an issue. Although many citizens do not yet realize it, comments made to chat boards, newsgroups and even mailing lists are all forms of publication. Criticisms of companies or their goods can be a basis for libel charges if the poster misrepresents facts. Businesses recognize the power of the Internet. Word-of-mouth becomes exponential when comments are posted to a worldwide medium.
 
Good Luck to you and your company David.
Title: Re: Banger Bowling
Post by: KingCranker on September 07, 2007, 02:37:33 PM
David,

I think what your are doing is great and to have Visionary,a top notch ball company by your side is a very good thing,dont bother responding to these yahoos,your bowling company is going in the right direction,once your one of the top companies and get settled in at the new company,you'll start seeing positive things,

Just want to let you know I will stick by your side and support what you do,


Paco
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Title: Re: Banger Bowling
Post by: mainzer on September 08, 2007, 12:16:41 AM
David,

I think you are doing great with Banger I have a HPP and it rocks when the lanes are dry I have great control and energy retention in the pins when there is a meduim shot the ball has more lenght and a stronger backend with the same power in the pins. Havent had a ball this good in awhile and I am waiting for Solid Hole Finder release. Screw these people with small minds that attacking you and the company keep up the good work and keep that model around, Great Bowling balls are even better when she is holding them up for me to see!
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Title: Re: Banger Bowling
Post by: KingCranker on September 08, 2007, 11:13:59 AM
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I'll be nice and stop ripping the old out of production Visionary made Banger's


Do you realize how many companies put new coverstocks on old core and sell them for high prices?..do you? I didnt think you did,for one its called marketing,and by seeing how you are ripping david shows your maturity.
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Now mainzer brought up a Great Point David, Take some more Pictures of that HOT Model and make the First Official Banger Swim Suite calendar! If you can't sell your balls, you can at the very least make a Killing on that Freaking Hot babe!



Did you think this all up on the ride home from the short bus yesterday?why would you rip someone like this?please explain,and for one it didnt seem like mainzer said what you stated,reread the post,

I see why David doesnt want to respond on here anymore..pathetic
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Title: Re: Banger Bowling
Post by: mainzer on September 08, 2007, 03:02:22 PM
If I were David I wouldn't reply on here anymore all people do is rip the product any way they can I personally like Bangers products I would rather throw Bangers stuff over ANYTHING from Storm or Ebonite.
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Title: Re: Banger Bowling
Post by: JOE FALCO on September 08, 2007, 03:14:58 PM
I honestly can't figure this one out .. I know Dav was  moving his shop from RENO to VEGAS and had some bowling balls he offered as a sale to BR members. I saw it and bought one (still haven't drilled it). Why is that upsetting to BR members? Seems to me that they would be overjoyed! I'm missing something .. what is it?

On edit: Incidently GOOD LUCK mvpbowler!

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Edited on 9/8/2007 3:16 PM
Title: Re: Banger Bowling
Post by: TWOHAND834 on September 08, 2007, 03:33:56 PM
Just for the record, considering I am am Visionary Die Hard, I would not rip a person or a company without knowing the facts and that is not really who I am anyway.  Especially those that have any ties to VBP. Since I do have an affiliation to a proshop, I get my equipment at cost.  If I can get "newer" equipment for $100 on average, then why would I want to spend $200 for something that is technically 5 years old?  It is not a limited edition ball.  If I can get something very similar of 100, then why spend double?  That is all I am saying.  

To David Atwood,

I apologize if you thought I was bashing you.  I do express my opinions, though I try to do it as repectable as I can.  I do look forward to the release of the new up-in-comings.
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Title: Re: Banger Bowling
Post by: BOWLGNUT on September 08, 2007, 03:53:48 PM
It is sad to lose a BR member because of several troll or morons cut down David Atwood.I have met David in Reno and he is a nice person to talk to.A person who can back up his products and stand behind them as well.He'll suggest a solution to problem you may have about bowling.Thanks to the morons for losing a good member.I think that there should be a forum for trolls and morons so they can chat about basically nothing in which they have no clue as to what in the world they are talking about in the first place.Next time you morons or trolls open your mouth that your mouth runs faster than your brain trying to catch up.It burn me up to see a BR member go because of this.So there for those two are on my ignore list from now on.
Title: Re: Banger Bowling
Post by: MI 2 AZ on September 08, 2007, 04:05:59 PM
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I think that there should be a forum for trolls and morons so they can chat about basically nothing in which they have no clue as to what in the world they are talking about in the first place.


We already have that, just with a nicer name.
http://www.ballreviews.com/Forum/Topics.asp?ForumID=80&CategoryID=5


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Title: Re: Banger Bowling
Post by: CaliBowler300 on September 08, 2007, 05:06:37 PM
I just bought a Hole Pounder Solid, and I have to say I love it. I even took the time to review the ball on here. Banger from what I can tell from the solid is that they make a very good ball. You have to love the name, and can't wait to get my pearl. Every company should have someone on here telling me about their equipment, that way I can make an informed decision about buying my next ball. I bought my banger ball at my pro-shop for 190.00 drilled with grips and slugs. I don't think that was unreasonable for a new ball. I hope to see more posts from David Atwood about Banger. BTW can I get a poster, I will even pay for one.
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Title: Re: Banger Bowling
Post by: I_Bowl4Money on September 08, 2007, 10:05:20 PM
George,

Sorry to hear that things are not working out.  Keep in touch and let me know how things are going.  I would hate to see our friendship become distant since we're no longer representing the same company.

I look forward to seeing you on the lanes and hope we get the chance to cross with one another....although let's try to keep the 9th/10th frame rolloffs til Championship Matches!


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  • Title: Re: Banger Bowling
    Post by: I_Bowl4Money on September 08, 2007, 10:11:45 PM
    BR Bowlers,

    Those of you that have mentioned having issues with the fact that the Pounder is utlizing the Sparkle Gryphon Core, do you feel the same about Ebonite?  If I'm not mistaken, didn't they use a core that is 5+ years old and just put a new Coverstock on it and gave it a different name?
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  • Edited on 9/8/2007 10:14 PM
    Title: Re: Banger Bowling
    Post by: scotts33 on September 08, 2007, 10:45:23 PM
    Stephen,

    I don't think it's that it's the original Gryphon core with a Vis. pearlized cover it's the difference in cost.  Correct me if I am wrong boys.

    BTW....did you give up on Visionary?  I see you dumped them on your sig. and have Banger in it's place.
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    Title: Re: Banger Bowling
    Post by: frontiers2 on September 21, 2007, 06:31:43 PM


    ya know.. by reading some of these posts, you'd think that there would be some more common sense out there.  Does anyone out there think that ALL BOWLING BALL MFG don't borrow from one another.  DOES ANYONE REMEMBER THE TRACK HAVOC???  HMMM isnt that a AMF NIGHTHAWK WGT BLOCK?? brunswick Parker bohn III MVP,(an old bruswick sapphire), track code red (columbia pulse), storms reusing the thunder wgt block on their new stuff, (track, columbia, amf all reuse each others weightblocks)  all there cores just get rolled over to other balls, slap on a new cover stock and a catchy name and you got a new ball out.  even the wgt blocks used on the track machine line, and the ebonite NV line are worth giving a look to.   look at all the ball companies.  track borrows from columbia, columbia borrows from ebonite, etc.  the list goes on and on, but yet nothing gets said about the BIG 3 (bruswick, columbia, ebonite).  how come???  because they have big advertising budgets???  or that they can sell theire equipment for lots less????  granted i can't afford to drop $200 bucks a ball (ball, drilling etc), but sounds like dave atwood is doing what he can to get the name out there, and by moving to vegas, that should help. (maybe he can get eric forkel to an endorsement contract?).  I got a banger fantasy ball and i love it.  (ok its part of my starter kit).  and i have been wanting to try a banger hole pounder, i've read some great things about both the pearl and solid.  just give'em time and exposure and see what happens.

    ok.. just my two cents.. but banger is worth tryng them out.. you might just be surprised.  af
    Title: Re: Banger Bowling
    Post by: throwitright on September 21, 2007, 10:16:55 PM
    eric forkel???
    he wont be able to hook these balls...unless...he has a really big wrist brace on!!!!