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Title: KINETIC - Official Thread
Post by: DaveW on December 25, 2008, 03:13:30 AM
Hello all,

I thought I'd start a thread that we could answer any questions about the company and products.

As you've seen already the current ball is the Solaris. Its a low RG, medium differential core - its smooth and revvy and coupled to the strong pearl cover makes it easy to get to your breakpoint with a strong dependable move off it.

If you have questions about us in general post here. If you have questions about getting hold of a ball, email us directly on enquiries@kineticbowling.com

We're working right now on getting the website online, we'll let you know when its live.

Merry Christmas all,

Dave W.
Title: Re: KINETIC - Official Thread
Post by: Nor Cal Bowler on December 25, 2008, 01:50:56 PM
two things. its spelled inquires, and two why did you name your company after a bowling ball thats already been made?
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Title: Re: KINETIC - Official Thread
Post by: noturcuzin on December 25, 2008, 01:59:58 PM
How much oil can the Solaris handle? Does it match up better to synthetics or wood lanes? Thanks!
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Title: Re: KINETIC - Official Thread
Post by: MI 2 AZ on December 25, 2008, 05:14:23 PM
Both spellings are correct.

enquiry - an instance of questioning, a search for knowledge, a systematic investigation of a matter of public interest.

Edited because the semicolons did not work.  Commas substituted.
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Title: Re: KINETIC - Official Thread
Post by: mrbowlingnut on December 25, 2008, 05:30:54 PM
Is your ball a USA release or oversea's release, if you are not making your equipment who pours for you ?????
Title: Re: KINETIC - Official Thread
Post by: DaveW on December 25, 2008, 05:41:21 PM
Thanks for the questions guys ..

quote:
two things. its spelled inquires, and two why did you name your company after a bowling ball thats already been made?


We did check this and either spelling is acceptable.

As for the company name, we chose it prior to the release of the ball you mentioned. We considered changing it, mainly due to search engine results you get when typing 'kinetic' and 'bowling', but decided that a year or more down the line it wouldn't be a big problem.


quote:
How much oil can the Solaris handle? Does it match up better to synthetics or wood lanes? Thanks!


Medium and heavy longer patterns.

When we designed the ball we wanted the strongest pearl available. So what you will get is a strong move off dry boards. The ball is designed with patterns over 40ft in mind, and for tight inside lines, although its all down to how you drill it. The core will give you easy continuous revs for the length of the lane (low rg, med/high diff), and we feel that matching this to the strong cover makes for a controllable but highly entertaining reaction shape!

We played a small tester competition (14 players) on a long multiple angle shot put down by a Kegel machine, and the Solaris placed 1st, 2nd and 3rd, with 2 of our test staff averaging over 230 with it on its first outing (one box finish, one lightly scuffed). We were, needless to say, ecstatic!

Obviously it'll work well on either synthetic or wood. But this particular release will roll well on those wooden lanes that sap the balls energy early.

There will be video of ball reaction on the website. =]


quote:
Is your ball a USA release or oversea's release, if you are not making your equipment who pours for you ?????


The ball is poured by Global 900 in San Antonio.

It's available worldwide. It's availability is not restricted to any particular Zone like many of those Asian only overseas releases. If you can't get your hands on one, then contact us directly or put your local pro shop in contact with us. We are currently have availability in the USA, Canada, UK and Ireland, Germany (and central Europe), with Scandinavia and Australia in negotiations.

Dave W.

Edited on 12/25/2008 7:14 PM
Title: Re: KINETIC - Official Thread
Post by: noturcuzin on December 25, 2008, 06:37:17 PM
The ball is poured by Global 900 in San Antonio.

It's available worldwide. It's availability is not restricted to any particular Zone like many of those Asian only overseas releases. If you can't get your hands on one, then contact us directly or put your local pro shop in contact with us. We are currently have availability in the USA, Canada, UK and Ireland, Germany (and central Europe), with Scandinavia and Australia in negotiations.

Dave W.

Edited on 12/25/2008 7:14 PM[/quote]

I'm interested in trying it out, as I like to try out other companies because I like to have different equipment than other people. So if I tell my pro shop to order one from your website than you can ship it to him? I'm in the U.S. not overseas somewhere.
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Title: Re: KINETIC - Official Thread
Post by: Nor Cal Bowler on December 25, 2008, 07:29:40 PM
Ok, I understand that about the name. Good luck on your product!!
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www.visionarybowling.com

Looking for the following...
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16# Banger Hole Finder Pearl
16# InSite Revelation

Title: Re: KINETIC - Official Thread
Post by: smash8-10split on December 26, 2008, 08:05:33 AM
the core is obviously different.  As are the RG and DIF numbers.


quote:
So you say you designed this ball? Your design sure does look an aweful lot like this other design that guess what, was also manufactured in the San Antonio plant a few years back: http://bowlingballreviews.com/ball.asp?ballid=2297
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Title: Re: KINETIC - Official Thread
Post by: TheDude on December 27, 2008, 10:58:49 AM
Who is the distributor in canada?
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Title: Re: KINETIC - Official Thread
Post by: DaveW on December 28, 2008, 09:34:30 AM
Hi again, hope everyone had a good Christmas.

quote:
I'm interested in trying it out, as I like to try out other companies because I like to have different equipment than other people. So if I tell my pro shop to order one from your website than you can ship it to him? I'm in the U.S. not overseas somewhere.


It's always nice to be the first person with an exotic new ball! PM me an email address and i'll give it to the relevant person (I dont deal with orders). If you want to give us an email for your proshop as well we shouuld be able to work something out. =]

quote:
So you say you designed this ball? Your design sure does look an aweful lot like this other design that guess what, was also manufactured in the San Antonio plant a few years back: http://bowlingballreviews.com/ball.asp?ballid=2297


While it might look similar, as someone pointed out, the numbers are quite different. We wanted a fast revving ball with a strong controlled breakpoint. The cover should be stronger on the Solaris too.

quote:
Kinetic_DaveW...are you Dave Atwood by chance?


Hehe, no. My surname begins with W.

quote:
Who is the distributor in canada?


Tim, I believe you're in touch with us via email. If i'm wrong about that let me know!

Dave W.
Title: Re: KINETIC - Official Thread
Post by: Whiskey 1966 on December 28, 2008, 02:05:24 PM
Good luck! On bowlingballreviews.com they list 22 active domestic ball companies. very competitive I assume.
Title: Re: KINETIC - Official Thread
Post by: DaveW on December 28, 2008, 04:12:00 PM
quote:
Good luck! On bowlingballreviews.com they list 22 active domestic ball companies. very competitive I assume.


Thanks! We know we'll need to put in a lot of work to try and build a customer base.

Incidentally, the Solaris and all forthcoming balls are and will be USBC approved. I know a few people have already been asking and I hadn't mentioned it.

For info on pricing and getting hold of the ball, whether you are an individual or a Pro Shop, I'd ask that rather than PM me, that you email the http://enquiries@kineticbowling.com address, as that will get your request directly to the person incharge of orders.

Many thanks,

Dave W.
Title: Re: KINETIC - Official Thread
Post by: DaveW on December 28, 2008, 04:33:13 PM
If this works, its a photo of the ball and logo. =]

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/7736/balllogophotofq7.jpg


Title: Re: KINETIC - Official Thread
Post by: themagician on December 28, 2008, 04:59:32 PM
quote:
If this works, its a photo of the ball and logo. =]

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/7736/balllogophotofq7.jpg





It worked and the colors look nice from the small shot, a full picture would be great though -)
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Title: Re: KINETIC - Official Thread
Post by: noturcuzin on December 28, 2008, 05:47:39 PM
quote:
quote:
If this works, its a photo of the ball and logo. =]

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/7736/balllogophotofq7.jpg





It worked and the colors look nice from the small shot, a full picture would be great though -)
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Here you go.

http://www.bowlingballreviews.com/ball.asp?ballid=3671

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Title: Re: KINETIC - Official Thread
Post by: tekneek on December 29, 2008, 01:36:01 PM
like to thank Ryan for calling me back so promptly to answer my questions and for getting the ball rolling, already have some on the way, once I saw 900G was producing the ball there was no hesitation.

Solaris 2.46 0.48 rg diff
Color: charcoal and Gold
Core: Trailblazer
might be a Villain core with one end tapered with the Radar Lock towwer cap on the bottom, inspiring and inovative !!!
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Leading Edge Pro Shop
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Edited on 12/29/2008 2:53 PM
Title: Re: KINETIC - Official Thread
Post by: DaveW on December 29, 2008, 02:56:14 PM
quote:
like to thank Ryan for calling me back so promptly to answer my questions and for getting the ball rolling, already have some on the way, once I saw 900G was producing the ball there was no hesitation.

Solaris 2.46 0.48 rg diff
Color: charcoal and Gold
Core: Trailblazer
might be a Villain core with one end tapered with the Radar Lock towwer cap on the bottom, inspiring and inovative !!!


Ryan is available on ryan@kineticbowling.com to discuss sales opportunities.

The RG on the 15 and 16s is 2.48. We'll get a full table of weights to specs on the website soon.
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Title: Re: KINETIC - Official Thread
Post by: A_P_K on December 29, 2008, 05:21:23 PM
Can you tell us what the cover stock finish is?  Is it something like 600 grit with 2000 grit polish or...????
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Title: Re: KINETIC - Official Thread
Post by: DaveW on December 30, 2008, 03:09:41 PM
quote:
Can you tell us what the cover stock finish is? Is it something like 600 grit with 2000 grit polish or...????
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The original Pin Krusher


The final stage of cover finish for the Solaris is 2000 grit polish.

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KINETIC - Energy in Motion.
http://enquiries@kineticbowling.com
Title: Re: KINETIC - Official Thread
Post by: mrbowlingnut on December 30, 2008, 03:56:33 PM
2000 abralon or 2000 grit plus polish, huge difference to all of us knuckleheads here and only here
Title: Re: KINETIC - Official Thread
Post by: tekneek on December 30, 2008, 04:29:53 PM
a Break Pearl cover with a symmetric core
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Title: Re: KINETIC - Official Thread
Post by: DaveW on December 30, 2008, 08:20:23 PM
quote:
2000 abralon or 2000 grit plus polish, huge difference to all of us knuckleheads here and only here


Its neither 2000 abralon, nor 2000 grit + polish. The '2000 grit polish' brings the ball from 325 grit to 2000 and polishes in one step. Its like a finishing compound.

quote:
Can I point out something that I have an issue with please?
In your marketting section of the new ball, you have the following 2 sentances.

"The low RG Trailblazer core generates an early roll ensuring smoothness throughout the lane. The Kinetic Solaris gives you more length and more back end than ever before. "

This does not make sense. It's early and smooth yet long with more backend?

Please clarify.

Thanks


Early roll and early hook are different things. The pearl cover isn't dull enough to hook early, and the core isn't a high differential flare monster than looks to hook soon or dominate ball reaction on the backend. It just revs fast.

With its medium flare potential won't simply flip and die, it'll be reasonably continuous but its meant to let the cover kick in late and not be overpowered by the core. Now since its a strong pearl and the ball hasn't used energy early or flared out and is still revving fast, the pearl is going to really bite into the backend.

We know that there are various was to combine core and cover to get angle, but we didn't want a lope-ing type of reaction that might be hit or miss for some players for our first release, or a big flaring ball that hooked plenty, but more evenly throughout the lane. We thought it best that our first ball makes a bit of angle. =]

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Uj_PjVwQxTk

Youtube savages the quality of .mov files. There will be more videos eventually at a higher quality though.
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Title: Re: KINETIC - Official Thread
Post by: tekneek on December 30, 2008, 08:43:06 PM
Dave was that you or Ryan throwing the Solaris?
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Title: Re: KINETIC - Official Thread
Post by: DaveW on December 30, 2008, 08:52:22 PM
That's Ryan .. I play a little deeper!
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Title: Re: KINETIC - Official Thread
Post by: tekneek on December 30, 2008, 09:02:33 PM
LOL, well now I have a face to put with the voice, I knew it wasn't Eric, not tall enough, lol
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Title: Re: KINETIC - Official Thread
Post by: slashrr69 on December 31, 2008, 12:21:55 AM
hey mr dave w
   Iam up & over here in north tonawanda, ny(near nia falls).. I am willing to be a ginny pig if you need some testing done in my area to get your ball/s noticed as eye candy?? if your company needs players count me in.. otherwise how do we go about getting a ball??   thankss slashrr69
Title: Re: KINETIC - Official Thread
Post by: nextbowler on December 31, 2008, 01:23:26 AM
Do any pro shops in Las Vegas handle your product.  What is suggested
retail?
Title: Re: KINETIC - Official Thread
Post by: Lillen on December 31, 2008, 01:33:17 AM
Or any Pro Shops in the Phoenix area?
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Title: Re: KINETIC - Official Thread
Post by: urbanshaft on December 31, 2008, 03:03:46 AM
sexiest looking ball ive ever seen
if i had the money id buy it ><
Title: Re: KINETIC - Official Thread
Post by: tekneek on December 31, 2008, 06:31:52 AM
after talking to Ryan, and then the R & D guys in S.A. the Solaris uses the S-70 pearl cover, same as on the Break Pearl, so in a nut shell, it uses a symmetric core, by the numbers little earlier than the BP with much the same motion as the BP, same price range, I had a case as of 5pm yesterday, now I've got to order more. Geezz what a bad deal, lol
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Leading Edge Pro Shop
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512-755-2947
 
http://stores.ebay.com/Leading-Edge-Pro-Shop


Title: Re: KINETIC - Official Thread
Post by: DaveW on December 31, 2008, 08:30:54 AM
Appreciate your help answering the questions Steve. =]

Guys, as far as availability goes, we need your help in arranging that pro-shops can get stocked. So either ask your pro-shop to email us (address below), or send us their email address so we can ask them directly. That would be a great help.

As far as test staff goes, we're not really too worried at the moment. We're looking to get the balls into the hands of as many pro-shop owners as possible with a little introductory offer, and they'll be our sales people if they like the ball. The bonus is they're usually respected as the most knowledgeable people in a bowling centre. Its a lower risk than giving a lot of free equipment to players who we don't know.

That's not to say that down the line we won't be looking for players who can win tournaments with our gear. So if you can wave some shiny trophies under our noses you have a better chance. We do have a few European Tour players throwing the ball, one of whom i'll not name unless he uses the gear in competition, but we're extremely excited that he's agreed to try the Solaris!
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Title: Re: KINETIC - Official Thread
Post by: TheDude on December 31, 2008, 08:34:10 AM
These are the guys from RPS. They have the experience from Rotogrip products. so they know what good stuff is gonna have to look like.
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Edmonton, Alberta.
Located inside Ed's Rec Room.(WEST ED MALL)
King Of Roto-Grip In Canada.
Keep them honest!


www.juniorsproshop.com now open serving the world.
Title: Re: KINETIC - Official Thread
Post by: tekneek on December 31, 2008, 08:44:07 AM
correct Dude, just spent 30 minutes on the phone with Ryan, they are really good guys, backed with plenty of bowling expreience and knowledge, going to have a real sweet relationship with them, already out of Solaris have to re-order more today. Get'em while you can !!!!
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Title: Re: KINETIC - Official Thread
Post by: slashrr69 on December 31, 2008, 12:05:52 PM
I know you have mentioned for us to try and get our local pro shops to order the balls for us, but I cant even get them to get us some 900 global balls.. there is one shop that carries them in my area and he is taking advantage of the situation and I "will not" deal with him.. so is there anyone you can refer us to?? as for free bowling equipment as staffers are concerned, I myself was not asking for a freebie, just wanted to know if you were going to give any deals on the balls in new areas(some of the first guys to get them..) thankss for your time and happy new years!! be safe everyone!!  slashrr69
Title: Re: KINETIC - Official Thread
Post by: nextbowler on January 02, 2009, 04:52:01 PM
Why do you need the customer's help in marketing your product?  Do your
job and get the pro shops yourself.  Again, what is the suggested retail
price and what is the availability in Las Vegas?
Title: Re: KINETIC - Official Thread
Post by: tekneek on January 03, 2009, 07:18:14 AM
After talking with Ryan if you are a pro shop use the link to contact Ryan in the original post, balls are being made available for the USA, and can be shipped from TX. If you are an indivudual looking for a Solaris I can most likely help you out. I'll have several more cases being delivered early this week.
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Leading Edge Pro Shop
www.leadingedgeproshop.net
512-755-2947
 
http://stores.ebay.com/Leading-Edge-Pro-Shop


Title: Re: KINETIC - Official Thread
Post by: noturcuzin on January 03, 2009, 02:41:02 PM
quote:
Where can I find the video? You've said it is poured by 900 Global. Is it a 900 Global ball or another company?


Go to youtube and type in, solaris bowling. The reaction on this ball is wicked in the video!
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Title: Re: KINETIC - Official Thread
Post by: slashrr69 on January 04, 2009, 07:35:38 AM
dave w
  someone else has asked too about the drilling in the ball used in the video?? can you find out what the oil pattern/fresh stripped backends and the drilling layout in the ball for us?? also can you find out the end resulting static weights of the finger/thumb/side and so on etc. etc..    
                                                        thankss slashrr69
Title: Re: KINETIC - Official Thread
Post by: DaveW on January 04, 2009, 02:28:45 PM
quote:
what is the suggested retail for these, and can we expect to see them
on buddies or other net shops soon?


RRP is $199. We are waiting for a reply from Buddies, and yes they will be available via online pro-shops. I believe that Steve from http://www.leadingedgeproshop.net is charging $150 shipped via the net. (Correct me if thats wrong Steve.)


quote:
WHAT DRILLING YOU HAVE ON THAT BALL IN THE VIDEO?


Its drilled 4.5" by 65*, or 4.5" by 4". Theres 0.25oz of positive side weight. Cover is box condition. Lanes were 39ft, medium volume, with about 6 games on them.


quote:
Why do you need the customer's help in marketing your product? Do your
job and get the pro shops yourself.


That's not exactly what I meant. I meant that if a potential customer reading this thread wants a ball, then they must notify us of their local pro-shop. Otherwise it might take longer than the customer wants to wait to create availability in their area.
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Title: Re: KINETIC - Official Thread
Post by: nextbowler on January 04, 2009, 02:38:29 PM
Clarification noted and accepted.  Thank you.
Title: Re: KINETIC - Official Thread
Post by: kidlost2000 on January 11, 2009, 12:01:25 AM
the ball looks great. I'm glad to see that AMF/Global900/Kinetic are going to continue the great bowling stuff so many people have become fans of. I'm a big Track fan from before the buy out and just haven't been pleased with the new stuff. It's nice but it's Ebonite it's not Track if that makes sense.

I'd like to see some of the old core in new stuff that were used buy columbia/amf/and track. ebonite still uses a lot of their old core but for some reason don't like looking back on some of tracks great core designs. Just food for thought.

(granted almost anything can be thrown into a ball and get similar or identical RG and dif) lol
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Title: Re: KINETIC - Official Thread
Post by: noturcuzin on January 11, 2009, 02:11:41 PM
RRP is $199. We are waiting for a reply from Buddies, and yes they will be available via online pro-shops. I believe that Steve from http://www.leadingedgeproshop.net is charging $150 shipped via the net. (Correct me if thats wrong Steve.)

You are correct, I bought one from Steve. $150 shipped for a NIB Solaris from tekneek(Steve). Can't wait to throw it.


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JOHN CANDY:1950-1994
JOHN BELUSHI:1949-1982  
 
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Title: Re: KINETIC - Official Thread
Post by: LaneHammer20 on January 11, 2009, 02:15:41 PM
ya I got a 2nd from Steve and I cant wait to get it punched up, might replace my stubborn Cell pearl.
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Title: Re: KINETIC - Official Thread
Post by: noturcuzin on January 11, 2009, 02:18:08 PM
quote:
Can someone post a video if they get a chance. I would love to see this ball on a few more shots.

Thanks


I would if I had a video camera. Nor Cal Bowler or bltbyj have one and I will be bowling with them on the 17th of January. I'll see if they can videotape some shots of us with it.
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JOHN BELUSHI:1949-1982  
 
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Title: Re: KINETIC - Official Thread
Post by: LaneHammer20 on January 11, 2009, 03:02:24 PM
i have recently been experimenting with filming myself. I would be glad to show a video of this ball when it comes in and I get it punched up. I would do the video of this ball at 2 different locations.

I am going to do a video of all my equipment and post them up. Hope I can get some tips on flaws in my style as well when I do it.
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Title: Re: KINETIC - Official Thread
Post by: Gunny on January 11, 2009, 05:26:18 PM
as soon as i get mine, i will post a vid of it.  im waiting to see what this Solaris can do....

who has thrown theirs yet, and what layout is on it, along with how the reaction shape is?
Title: Re: KINETIC - Official Thread
Post by: gmd300 on January 12, 2009, 04:37:42 PM
Hi all, a couple more short video clips of the Solaris for you. One from the same angle as the previous preview posted and one close up at lane level to give some idea of the reaction I'm getting from this ball.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaWlrC478FY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XKF90XZsM8

Grant
Title: Re: KINETIC - Official Thread
Post by: noturcuzin on January 12, 2009, 05:05:25 PM
quote:
Hi all, a couple more short video clips of the Solaris for you. One from the same angle as the previous preview posted and one close up at lane level to give some idea of the reaction I'm getting from this ball.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaWlrC478FY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XKF90XZsM8

Grant


Thanks! The ball looks great! I can't wait until mine gets here.
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JOHN CANDY:1950-1994
JOHN BELUSHI:1949-1982  
 
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Title: Re: KINETIC - Official Thread
Post by: DaveW on January 19, 2009, 02:31:38 PM
Another short video.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=zSlyBBTP-4A

Watch in High Quality, YouTube loves to murder video.
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http://enquiries@kineticbowling.com
Title: Re: KINETIC - Official Thread
Post by: DaveW on January 29, 2009, 01:00:41 PM
Just a few things ..

I have a comparison video similar to the one linked to above. I won't mention the ball here in case its taken the wrong way, although needless to say i think its a fantastic ball otherwise i wouldn't have one, but you never know.

If you'd like to see the video, its 45 seconds so its 2.8meg, PM we leaving your email address and i'll send it.

It was mentioned that we may have a ball ready for release in about a month. There must have been some crossed wires, and although we will be producing new equipment, it won't be quite that soon.

Glad to see the Solaris suits so many of you, thanks for the positive feedback! =]

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Title: Re: KINETIC - Official Thread
Post by: tekneek on January 29, 2009, 04:46:58 PM
close but no cigar, Villan core with Radar series tower cap on the bottom
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Title: Re: KINETIC - Official Thread
Post by: noturcuzin on January 29, 2009, 06:40:41 PM
quote:
So this company is basically like a rehash, redo, mix and match, company like Motiv and Elite are too Brunswick? Is Kinetic actually designing their own stuff  or will they do one or two balls and quit like so many others?


How is Motiv like Brunswick? I thought they produced their own covers and cores for their bowling balls?
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Title: Re: KINETIC - Official Thread
Post by: A_P_K on January 30, 2009, 05:25:00 AM
http://www.bowlingballreviews.com/ball.asp?ballid=3488

plus the top cap

http://www.bowlingballreviews.com/ball.asp?ballid=2915

equals

http://www.bowlingballreviews.com/ball.asp?ballid=3671

with the flip cap on bottom.

So no I'd say you didn't win the cigar can't even remotely see the Justice core in these pics.


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Title: Re: KINETIC - Official Thread
Post by: DaveW on January 30, 2009, 01:48:08 PM
quote:
So this company is basically like a rehash, redo, mix and match, company like Motiv and Elite are too Brunswick? Is Kinetic actually designing their own stuff  or will they do one or two balls and quit like so many others?


This is valid question, although I have answered it to an extent earlier in this thread.

We are bowlers, we are not rich business owners moving into the bowling market, and we are starting out in a tough economic time. We simply do not have the huge amount of money needed to wade into the market trading blows with the likes of Storm and Brunswick on the R&D front. That will hopefully come in time, success permitting.

We think it's much more sensible to start by working with an established and respected company with plenty of experience, and get proven technology and a high performance ball or two out there first, to show that we know what a good ball should roll like, and to pave the way for expansion of the R&D side of the business.

As far as the core questions and the rehashing opinions go, we notice that some bowlers seem to believe that if a core shape is similar in 2 balls, they must roll similarly. You can't tell core densities from a graphic. The numbers of the balls in question are different, and the balls will roll differently. The covers of the balls are different, making another difference in reaction.

We start with an idea of what we want the ball reaction characteristics to be, and what lane conditions the ball needs to suit, then the specs of the ball are decided upon, then tested and tweaked until the ball is ready for production. It's far from the random or chance process suggested by terms such as 'mix 'n' match'.

I realize that people can be dubious about the quality and longevity of new companies, and can understand if they want to reserve judgment. So until then we must try to impress via developing strong product lines, innovating, and demonstrating our experience by helping bowlers improve their scores and enjoyment of the game. Those are the things that as bowlers, we know we must work on, not our ability to pump out enough marketing to sell a new ball every month.

In the meantime, we must rely on (and thank!) the bowlers that take a chance on us, and especially the ones that help our cause by remarking when they do have a positive experience with our equipment.

We just want to put ourselves in the position to be sitting here a few years down the line producing great product. Since we bowl too, we're not going to be making anything we wouldn't throw ourselves.

I'll not turn this into a long winded post by going on any more. =p

Feel free to keep asking any questions, i'll do my best to keep answering.

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Title: Re: KINETIC - Official Thread
Post by: 230-n-up-or-bust on January 30, 2009, 01:56:17 PM
Dave, we put holes in our first Solaris last night.  First of all, it has all the shelf appeal you'd ever need in a ball.  It looks great.  Second, it's got that great "crack" of a dedicated reactive pearl when it hits the pocket.  We utilized a double thumb drilling on a long pin second.  This ball is not the second coming.  It won't place a 20% better scoring guarantee for some stupid gimmick.  Just proven cores underneath great looking and performing coverstocks.
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Title: Re: KINETIC - Official Thread
Post by: tekneek on January 30, 2009, 02:04:48 PM
drilled one last week for a customer in AZ, called last night to tell me he thought it was going to be money, shot 792 last night in league,  the first time out with his.
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Title: Re: KINETIC - Official Thread
Post by: Helsie on February 01, 2009, 02:08:40 PM
Finally had mine drilled today. Only had a few shots with it after to check that it was comfortable etc, but was very impressed. Looking forward to bowling with it properly.

And it looks awesome too.
Title: Re: KINETIC - Official Thread
Post by: mainzer on February 02, 2009, 06:38:17 AM
I am waiting for a Solid to come out and I will try it, I have alot of pearl stuff already simply adding another strong pearl to the three i have already doesn't make sense to me. I would like to take Primal Rage out service and replace with say a Solid Solaris when it comes about.
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Title: Re: KINETIC - Official Thread
Post by: tekneek on February 13, 2009, 08:02:18 PM
Mainzer, you won't have to wait too much longer, I spoke with Ryan for about an hour by phone today, its in the works now. So hold on to your bag and balls, lol
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Title: Re: KINETIC - Official Thread
Post by: jbuzz31 on February 24, 2009, 07:52:18 AM
So it would appear kinetic is changing there name to Seismic


"Dear Bowlers,

In the few months since the release of our first ball, the Solaris, we have been overwhelmed by the response from our customers, and flattered by the compliments we have been given. It seems almost everyone who has used the Solaris already is eagerly awaiting our second ball. The reviews have been better than we could have expected.

However, with such fast growth we have become aware of a possible conflict of interests with another company’s product. As we are still in our early life as a company we have decided that it is best to address this issue now, and will be changing our name, to Seismic Bowling.

To mark this change, and to reassure our customers that we are here to stay, we are very proud to announce our second release! By popular demand, the next ball in the Solaris line will be hitting the market early April 09!

We would like to reassure you that our company ethos remains the same, every member of our staff remains the same, and all agreements and contracts with distributors, proshops and bowlers will remain. All the information from our original website, including recommended proshop listings, will be transferred to our new website, http://www.seismicbowling.com in the near future. We will be very happy to answer any queries you may have, and you can contact us at our old email address, or at our new address enquiries@seismicbowling.com.

The original Solaris bowling ball is still available for purchase, but for a limited period only! If you want to get your hands on this amazing ball, which is surely going to be a collectors item with the original logos, now is the time to order! If you have yet to try out the Solaris, please feel free to contact us and we will put you in touch with a recommended retailer.

Looking forward to a bright future,

The Seismic Bowling Team. "
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Title: Re: KINETIC - Official Thread
Post by: mainzer on February 24, 2009, 08:17:39 AM
Cool Calender is marked for April I am looking forward to the next ball.
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Title: Re: KINETIC - Official Thread
Post by: kidlost2000 on February 24, 2009, 03:17:34 PM
Will the Solaris be released under the new company name?
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Title: Re: KINETIC - Official Thread
Post by: tekneek on February 25, 2009, 07:53:24 AM
Dave or Ryan would be the one's to answer that Q
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Title: Re: KINETIC - Official Thread
Post by: DaveW on February 25, 2009, 06:34:36 PM
Hi again,

We don't have any imminent plans to release the pearl Solaris under the Seismic brand.  Theres a chance of a re-release if the sales of the solid are strong and there is demand for more pearl balls, but our immediate plans are the development of the solid version of the Solaris, and then on to a new line of balls developed round a new core. This should take us into late 2009 so we may make a decision closer to that time.

=]
Title: Re: KINETIC - Official Thread
Post by: bowlerdawg on March 10, 2009, 10:10:06 PM
Dave are you still making this ball ?

or are you just selling off all that's left under the kinetic name that was originally poured in San Antonio ?

also If I wanted to get this ball back to OOB condition how would you recommend I do that ?

I got one, and I'm more impressed every time I bring it out to play with.
Carry is some of the best I've seen, and it matches up very well to my game.

just a sick back end.

LMK
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Title: Re: KINETIC - Official Thread
Post by: tekneek on March 10, 2009, 11:22:24 PM
rec'd 2 cases today 3/10, some of the last !!!
thread in bif f/s forum and in the AMF fourm !!!
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