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scotts33

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MOTIV
« on: December 14, 2008, 09:41:14 PM »
I am going to get a new MOTIV ball but not sure if it will be the TX-1 or SX-1.  Depends on what they send to my driller.  He bought a case and should see them mid to end of this week.  

So, my question is copied from charlest's post in mainzer's GX-1 topic.  I and many others I believe would like to know.

I am curious about its traits:

What type of ball is it?
What amount of oil does it handle?
What type of ball reaction does it have with a "normal" or average drilling?
How does it take to surface changes?
Does it stay flippy if polished?
Does it become arc-like if sanded or does it stay flippy?
How reliable is the coverstock?
Does it take to rejuvenation"
How fast does it absorb oil?
Does it still hook strongly if it doesn't absorb oil?
How flexible is the core?
Is it low RG or high RG?
How well does the cover and the core match up?
Does it match up for high rev bowlers OR low rev bowlers?
etc.


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Artimust

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Re: MOTIV
« Reply #46 on: February 23, 2009, 05:51:44 PM »
Since it seems like the TX-1(blue) has a problem with carry down, would you guys suggest maybe just getting a SX-1(black)?  I'm debating between the two and would like one that would be good on most conditions.

Zef Olantar

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Re: MOTIV
« Reply #47 on: February 23, 2009, 07:03:33 PM »
Both balls have the similar issues with carrydown.  The TX1 is actually more angular at the breakpoint and handles the carrydown marginally better, but both are similar because the coverstock is identical on both the SX1 and TX1.

The SX1 is finished to 2000 Abralon while the TX1 is 1000 Abralon which is why it's a bit better handling oil in the backend.  Hope that helps.
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Re: MOTIV
« Reply #48 on: February 23, 2009, 08:40:08 PM »
I am selling my TX-1 if anyone is interested.  It's 15 single drill about 2 games total on it. LH, finger grips and slug, no xhole.

I tried to move down to 15 lbs, and it's not going to happen, I'm piping this bad boy.

$80 shipped or trade for something 16.

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Re: MOTIV
« Reply #49 on: March 09, 2009, 03:58:26 PM »
Ok here's my take.  Got a single drill used one that was said to have one game on it.  It is drilled pin just above and right of ring with the cg in palm.  pretty much a label drill - my axis is 4 3/4 over and 1/2 inch up.

threw it on an easy THS shot and was amazed at how little it hooked.  not going ot be judgemental about this ball after throwing a few league games BUT my fury pearl was easily outhooking by 7-10 boards.  I tried 4 other balls that same nite and they all easily outhooked the TX-1.  I had to go way right and roll straight up the drier boards to get to wrinkle.  I applied a scotch brite after league and threw again and then it did pickup a hair earlier but if it caught carrydown it didnt move at all.  I can see this ball being wonderful on flying backends, maybe even a dream ball.  super cool looking and the logos are sweet.  I was amazed cuz when I read the ads on the motiv website and the few reviews on here, I thought it would move a good bit but it didnt.  I am in contact with motic tech support so see if this ball reaction I am getting it is the norm for this ball.  It definitley has a urethane feel to it.  I almost got the sense it was not reactive at all.  not a bad thing just an observation.  the ball rolled beautifully and flared about 4-5 inches.  will keep all posted.  we have one house with flying corners and backends, might be just what the doctor ordered.  doug
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Zef Olantar

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Re: MOTIV
« Reply #50 on: March 09, 2009, 04:09:17 PM »
Your observations are correct, Doug!
I have the TX-1 and the SX-1 and they both have that urethane look and feel
to them......when the backends are flying and your bowling on a shorter
pattern, these balls are KILLERS!

You'll also notice that the oil does NOT absorb into the ball, which is one
of the reasons this coverstock (same on both balls) does not like carrydown.

Having said that, both of the MOTIV balls are always in my bag.
Especially when I'm travelling to tournaments.  If you're bowling on
a Sport or PBA pattern, these will help you control the lane.

Cheers!  

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fishbowler

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Re: MOTIV
« Reply #51 on: March 09, 2009, 04:15:34 PM »
OK so I didnt get a dud like I thought  seems the advertising for this ball is kind of misleading as I saw no reference to the ball providing a "urethane" look and feel.  And yes when the ball comes back it is just soaked on the outside with oil sitting on the surface.  wont a cover like this also help create a bad carrydown situation due to oil staying outside the cover?
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Re: MOTIV
« Reply #52 on: March 09, 2009, 04:38:13 PM »
Yes, oil on the cover doesn't help when the ball is trying to make the turn
into the pocket......that's why the new "soaker" coverstocks are better for
handling carrydown.

The coverstock on the 2 Motiv balls also appears to be less "tacky" than most
other reactive covers on the market, which will also contribute to the lower
hook potential of the balls.

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