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Title: My new toys are HERE!! Actual pictures of the new Global Balls inside!
Post by: Bar5003 on August 22, 2007, 10:30:25 AM
http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=6389975

I had a nice surprise waiting for me when i got home today...

As far as layouts go i think im doing the following

Break #1 5 x 5MB x 3"up
Break #2 4 x 4MB x 1.5"up

Creature #1 4.5 x 4.5
Creature #2 3.75 x 2

Heist-Not sure yet but i will be knocking the polish off of it to complement my first one...

Orbit Ex 3.5 x 3.5

Heres the rest of the pictures!

http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=6389975

Enjoy!

And of course, Videos to come soon...
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Edited on 8/22/2007 6:31 PM
Title: Re: My new toys are HERE!! Actual pictures of the new Global Balls inside!
Post by: WSUstroker on August 22, 2007, 07:25:56 PM
*Shakes fist angrily at Bar!!!*

Looking forward to seeing how those things roll for you.
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Title: Re: My new toys are HERE!! Actual pictures of the new Global Balls inside!
Post by: BuddiesProShopcom - Bill on August 24, 2007, 01:57:16 AM
Looks like the Breaks are being made by Storm and the Creature is being made in the new Global 900 plant.
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Title: Re: My new toys are HERE!! Actual pictures of the new Global Balls inside!
Post by: Bar5003 on August 24, 2007, 07:31:08 AM
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Looks like the Breaks are being made by Storm and the Creature is being made in the new Global 900 plant.
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You got it Bill...The breaks are made by storm, but with Global's Resins...
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Title: Re: My new toys are HERE!! Actual pictures of the new Global Balls inside!
Post by: Djarum on August 24, 2007, 01:13:14 PM
Who makes the creature and whats it all about?

Dj
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Title: Re: My new toys are HERE!! Actual pictures of the new Global Balls inside!
Post by: jkiser01 on August 24, 2007, 01:20:28 PM
Global 900 makes the Creature.. You can read all about it on their website..
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Title: Re: My new toys are HERE!! Actual pictures of the new Global Balls inside!
Post by: Xfest on August 25, 2007, 12:28:18 AM
Ball hoe .

I wouldn't mind trying out one of those Breaks. Where can I get one of these, because our pro-shop orders from a distributor. Ace Mitchell - and you guys don't deal with the distributors, so how and where can I get one of these?
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Title: Re: My new toys are HERE!! Actual pictures of the new Global Balls inside!
Post by: 302efi on August 25, 2007, 03:01:01 PM
Not to piss on anyones parade, but those are the most boring colored and named balls I've ever seen.

I mean there are all solid colored and just lack luster in todays market.

Heist, Creature & Break ?


These look like something that the former AMF company would put out...

I think we all know that these ball will not sale at retail prices next to the other high end balls from the other companies...

Just my .02
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Title: Re: My new toys are HERE!! Actual pictures of the new Global Balls inside!
Post by: RealBowler on August 25, 2007, 04:56:28 PM
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Not to piss on anyones parade, but those are the most boring colored and named balls I've ever seen.

I mean there are all solid colored and just lack luster in todays market.

Heist, Creature & Break ?


These look like something that the former AMF company would put out...

I think we all know that these ball will not sale at retail prices next to the other high end balls from the other companies...

Just my .02
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Roto-Grip

When faced with a difficult situation, Jesus asks himself, "What would Chuck Norris do?"

Robo-Arm bowlers SUCK...


Yes, we all buy balls based on the names and colors!

Eric Bischoff once said that a bald wrestler with a goatee wearing black trunks wouldn't be marketable.


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Title: Re: My new toys are HERE!! Actual pictures of the new Global Balls inside!
Post by: EricThomas on August 27, 2007, 08:51:16 AM
quote:
Not to piss on anyones parade, but those are the most boring colored and named balls I've ever seen.

I mean there are all solid colored and just lack luster in todays market.

Heist, Creature & Break ?


These look like something that the former AMF company would put out...

I think we all know that these ball will not sale at retail prices next to the other high end balls from the other companies...

Just my .02
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Roto-Grip

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Robo-Arm bowlers SUCK...


Starting out we had to make due with what we had.  The colors may be lackluster compared to others, i will give you that.  However the performance doesnt miss a beat.  I really dont care what the name is or what the color looks like, if i am burying you in a tournament all i care about is winning.  Looks are important in todays market, we will have a better variety in the future.  But think outside the box and base your judgement on performance characteristics.  Dont get me wrong, we appreciate the "constructive" comments, these will be apart of the growth of our company.
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Title: Re: My new toys are HERE!! Actual pictures of the new Global Balls inside!
Post by: tekneek on August 27, 2007, 09:28:24 AM
I haven't had any problems selling the "boring Balls", nor have I had any negitive feed back regarding them. Well only one, The Break hooks too much, if that were really a problem in today's market, oh hum....
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Title: Re: My new toys are HERE!! Actual pictures of the new Global Balls inside!
Post by: charlest on August 28, 2007, 06:39:30 AM
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Looks like the Breaks are being made by Storm and the Creature is being made in the new Global 900 plant.
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You got it Bill...The breaks are made by storm, but with Global's Resins...
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I realize all 900Global balls will be made with their own "choice" of resins, but I thought some either from 900Global or with contacts within 900Global already posted here on ballreviews that the Break's coverstock was Storm's R2S solid???
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Title: Re: My new toys are HERE!! Actual pictures of the new Global Balls inside!
Post by: bowlingmytmouse on August 28, 2007, 07:27:13 AM
Personally, I love the color scheme.  I like a plain looking ball.  I don't need all them colors, it looks retro and I love it!!  I will more than likely never throw one, but they do look very nice.

BMM
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Title: Re: My new toys are HERE!! Actual pictures of the new Global Balls inside!
Post by: newguy on August 28, 2007, 12:13:25 PM
We do tell the truth, the resin formula for the Break is one developed by the resin supplier for us. The Core is my design.
The Heist has densities in the flip block never use in that combination before and the body of the core has a totally different density.
Why would you think we need to lie, performance speaks for itself. If the balls do not perform they do not sell.
"We do not need you to believe" anything, it is what it is.
Storm built the ball for us as we said all along using our specs. This occurred once before in the history of Bowling where a company had built a ball for another company.
900 Global builds balls for Storm as well, are they Global balls or Storm balls.
Title: Re: My new toys are HERE!! Actual pictures of the new Global Balls inside!
Post by: tenpin on August 28, 2007, 12:14:58 PM
That some guy you are talking about is the designer of the equipment so I would believe that he knows the difference
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Title: Re: My new toys are HERE!! Actual pictures of the new Global Balls inside!
Post by: Fluff E Bunnie on August 28, 2007, 12:25:27 PM
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Not to piss on anyones parade, but those are the most boring colored and named balls I've ever seen.


I disagree.  I prefer solid colored stuff and I think the Break in particular looks pretty sweet.
Title: Re: My new toys are HERE!! Actual pictures of the new Global Balls inside!
Post by: shelley on August 28, 2007, 12:33:13 PM
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then some guy says the flip blocks are different, and has different densities. The pictures sure look the same. just tell the truth


Maybe you can tell the density of a certain bit of material just by looking at it but I have to weigh it and compute the volume first.  Are, say blue colored pieces more dense than, say, yellow colored pieces?

Companies re-use cores all the time with various tweaks.  Phil puts together some great balls and not every core is the most ingenious, groundbreaking, new thing since sliced break but the performance of the balls is as good as anything out there.  One might ask just how many lightbulb cores we need (Elements, Vendettas) but I've never heard of someone disliking those balls.

Maybe it looks like the Artillery core.  It probably also looks a lot like the Revmaster core.  And knowing Columbia, another dozen balls on top of those two.  But if the ball rolls well and hits hard for a lot of users, so what?

SH
Title: Re: My new toys are HERE!! Actual pictures of the new Global Balls inside!
Post by: tenpin on August 28, 2007, 12:51:34 PM
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Not to piss on anyones parade, but those are the most boring colored and named balls I've ever seen.


That's funny not bothering my parade,  My "boring" looking Break Hooks a whole lot more the my Total NV and my V2.  My Creature also is one of the best pearl balls I have ever used.  Besides what is boring about using a ball that will carry well and win me lots of money this year.  These balls do exactly what they are said to do bottom line.
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Title: Re: My new toys are HERE!! Actual pictures of the new Global Balls inside!
Post by: Bar5003 on August 28, 2007, 01:03:56 PM
Why is it my nice, innocent posts always get into heated debates lol

I finally get to drill my breaks tonight and will be throwing them tomorrow in league and i will share my first reactions then...


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Edited on 8/28/2007 1:04 PM
Title: Re: My new toys are HERE!! Actual pictures of the new Global Balls inside!
Post by: dw23 on August 28, 2007, 01:40:49 PM
I think the core was first used in the original Track Stomp which (correct me if I'm wrong Phil) was a Phil design. It is a proven core and I myself have no problem with a company making tweaks to match todays lane conditions.

I've loved the Track cores and covers for a long time and have had a lot of success with them. I think I need equipment similar to those from the past to continue my success so I'll be trying the new 900 Global/AMF equipment this season.
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Title: Re: My new toys are HERE!! Actual pictures of the new Global Balls inside!
Post by: KDawg77 on August 28, 2007, 01:44:05 PM
One trap I hope 900Global does not fall into is the dreaded "lack of creative cores" trap. I see where the Pulse/Total Chaos/Titan-shaped core is in the Creature. It's a great core, but please do not make the mistake C300 did. The Break is a great first step.
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Title: Re: My new toys are HERE!! Actual pictures of the new Global Balls inside!
Post by: revTrex on August 28, 2007, 02:10:46 PM
In an email, ET told me -- "The Global ball will be ready as soon as they arrive,
we had Storm build this release because we didn't know if our core pouring area would be up in time. As you know by now it was and is running, however we didn't want to take the chance. The cover on that ball
is Storm's hp cover I believe RS2 I don't know much about the terms of theirs. As for reaction, let me say long and strong. Thus the name, Break because when it gets there its very very violent. The Creature will be a great mid price addition and will utilize the old Titan core with a new blended reactive BASF resin. "

Thus, charlest, my reason for saying what I did about the R2S...

Sorry if I caused/cause any confusion...
Title: Re: My new toys are HERE!! Actual pictures of the new Global Balls inside!
Post by: billy2gun on August 28, 2007, 02:46:56 PM
quote:
http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=6389975

I had a nice surprise waiting for me when i got home today...

As far as layouts go i think im doing the following

Break #1 5 x 5MB x 3"up
Break #2 4 x 4MB x 1.5"up

Creature #1 4.5 x 4.5
Creature #2 3.75 x 2

Heist-Not sure yet but i will be knocking the polish off of it to complement my first one...

Orbit Ex 3.5 x 3.5

Heres the rest of the pictures!

http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=6389975

Enjoy!

And of course, Videos to come soon...
--------------------
~Britton~

Owner and Operator of

www.videoballreviews.com


Edited on 8/22/2007 6:31 PM


Is the Orbit EX the same ball that's been out or a new one? BTW: I also like solid colored balls.

Billy
Title: Re: My new toys are HERE!! Actual pictures of the new Global Balls inside!
Post by: revTrex on August 28, 2007, 06:23:43 PM
bombsaway --

Thanks for your appreciation. However, I believe there has been some confusion about pieces of info along the way, and that, as a result, bad info has gotten out into the marketplace (including my most recent comment). The Break's cover is NOT R2S. They had Storm pour it, that's it.

And on another note to bombsaway...The Hei$t's core has different densities and core numbers than some of the other cores with similar/identical "shapes," such as the Artillery's, Revmaster's, etc. But the "identical" or "almost the same" core shape itself, if the numbers themselves are different, has nothing to do with ball reaction. That is, if you take the USBC's latest research into consideration. The Revmaster core and the Hei$t core might look the same, but if the numbers are different, and the covers are different, they are too entirely different balls.

Title: Re: My new toys are HERE!! Actual pictures of the new Global Balls inside!
Post by: revTrex on August 28, 2007, 09:06:41 PM
They are not trying to mislead customers. They are trying to inform customers, which is why ET and Phil come on here in the first place and talk about their products. Now, if some information is mistakenly given, who are you to say they are "misleading" them??? A mistake is not a lie, nor is it an attempt to deceive customers. A mistake is the product of openness about company policies gone wrong, and nothing more -- and if you really wanted to criticize companies for "deceptive tactics," why don't you attack others less transparent than 900G?

Furthermore, they have never claimed these cores or covers were "all new." They have only claimed they are the best combinations available to the consumer today. Which is, I think, not the most heinous thing in the world to do, especially considering how it's their job to do so.