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DP3

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How's the NS2 anyone?
« on: January 01, 2006, 07:03:11 AM »
I heard this is supposed to be like the Ultimate control ball.  With a heavy particle load I'm wondering how versatile it could actually be?   Anyone's thoughs on this ball.  I'm not asking if it'll fit my game, I just want to know what you guys think of it that have used/drilled it.
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Re: How's the NS2 anyone?
« Reply #1 on: January 02, 2006, 07:24:16 AM »
Ask JS (userid here); he seems to like his.

I do not YET have one, but from what I have seen and heard so far:
- Although they say it's a control ball, it seems to still hook a good deal.
- Although it's a medium to heavy load of particles, it's still intended for medium oil conditions.
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Re: How's the NS2 anyone?
« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2006, 02:46:12 PM »
I like mine again a ball that I ONLY use on specific conditions.  Reminds me a lot of the Col. Alter Ego.....which also is a great control ball.

Mine is laid out 4 1/2" x 2 1/2" a 50 deg. layout with an X-hole on my PAP 5/8" hole 1 3/4" deep leaves 7/8 oz. pos.  See my profile stats.

I have mine 800 grit and I would call it a medium particle ball NOT heavy particle.  IMO.....in comparison to both Visionary's Granite Gargoyle or Midnight Scorcher are heavy particle balls.

I use it on med. heavy sport conditions and on one league that is med. heavy blended longer length 40' for first game.  Good ball to break down condition especially if you have others working with you on the same trajectory.

I haven't found many other good control balls out there this gets great marks in my book.
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Re: How's the NS2 anyone?
« Reply #3 on: January 02, 2006, 03:09:03 PM »
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I have mine 800 grit and I would call it a medium particle ball NOT heavy particle.  IMO.....in comparison to both Visionary's Granite Gargoyle or Midnight Scorcher are heavy particle balls.
balls out there this gets great marks in my book.
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Scott,

You're making a false assumption: that heavy load particle balls are strictly for heavy oil. The NS2, according to every Legend document I have seen, has a heavy load of particles. The NS2 is not an early grabbing ball, like the Granite or the Scorcher. It is more like the Yeah Baby!, which also has a heavy load of particles. I get wonderful length from my YB on any oil pattern with more than medium oil. Of course, unless I use it on medium-heavy oil, I get immense amount of hook also.

The NS2 is designed to handle longer medium oil patterns; this is from the horse's mouth. Of course, shorter (not short) medium-heavy oil patterns, like some sport shots, can look like long pattern of medium oil.

Again, not having used one yet and being a rev-dominant player, I would probably be able to use it on medium-heavy oil also. Thus my hesitancy, at this point in time, to get an NS2. After all, I already have the YB, drilled for control (3"x5").
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Re: How's the NS2 anyone?
« Reply #4 on: January 02, 2006, 03:47:05 PM »
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You're making a false assumption: that heavy load particle balls are strictly for heavy oil.  


Jeff--It's just how I look at particle balls vs. a mfg.  By all means go with what the mfg. says......BUT then again Legends/LM says the Kong is designed for medium to heavy patterns and this is not the case from what I am hearing from JS and yourself.  As always YMMV.  


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The NS2 is not an early grabbing ball, like the Granite or the Scorcher.

I am rev. dominant also.  I never could use an NS2 on lighter medium conditions.  It's an arcy ball to start...it's not as early as a GG or Midnight Scorcher but is in no way a length ball either.  Therefore makes sense as a control ball.

I always cringe when people ask how a ball will work for them....as most will not match up like you have.  Our stats./games/techniques/comfort zones, lane condtions used on, etc. may not be the same nor close to the same.  It's why video's as you have mentioned before or of lil value to most.

For the record, I have liked ALL of the Legends/LM balls I have bought this year.  NS<used> and these all new..... NS2, Big Kahuna and Masterpiece.  Have shot honor scores with them all.  I sure can't say that about any other line of balls from top to bottom.


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Re: How's the NS2 anyone?
« Reply #5 on: January 02, 2006, 04:59:30 PM »
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You're making a false assumption: that heavy load particle balls are strictly for heavy oil.  


Jeff--It's just how I look at particle balls vs. a mfg.  By all means go with what the mfg. says......BUT then again Legends/LM says the Kong is designed for medium to heavy patterns and this is not the case from what I am hearing from JS and yourself.  As always YMMV.


I'm thinking JS and I got a King coverstock without the particles. But I like it so much the way it is, as does JS, neither of us are going to say, "boo", to anyone abou them.

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The NS2 is not an early grabbing ball, like the Granite or the Scorcher.

I am rev. dominant also.  I never could use an NS2 on lighter medium conditions.  It's an arcy ball to start...it's not as early as a GG or Midnight Scorcher but is in no way a length ball either.  Therefore makes sense as a control ball.


Length is a relative thing. On long medium amounts of oil, we might very well call that a mediumhevay oil "pattern".

Let's face it: on new Brunswick AnvilLanes, the slickest synthetics made, it takes very little amount of oil  to make the "condition" appear to be a medium-heavy oil pattern. On old wood lanes, it takes a ton of oil to make it look like a medium oil pattern.

This is why I have proposed (somewhere on one of these forums) that we call the patterns medium-heavy or medium friction patterns, not referring to the amount of oil which is almost inappropriate these days.

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I always cringe when people ask how a ball will work for them....as most will not match up like you have.  Our stats./games/techniques/comfort zones, lane condtions used on, etc. may not be the same nor close to the same.  It's why video's as you have mentioned before or of lil value to most.


Yet everyone here asks for a drilling recommendation or a ball + drilling when the guys's deliver/release is not documented and neither is his house's oil pattern. And people tell him how to drill that ball. Yoiks!

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For the record, I have liked ALL of the Legends/LM balls I have bought this year.  NS<used> and these all new..... NS2, Big Kahuna and Masterpiece.  Have shot honor scores with them all.  I sure can't say that about any other line of balls from top to bottom.
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Good for you. COngrats!
I had a 289 with the Kong, but I refused to throw the last 2 strikes for a 300 because I didn't deserve it. I had hit anywhere from the 12 board to the 8 board all game long and every strike was dead flush. It would have been too emabarassing to claim an honor score under those conditions. I've had several 700s this year, but no big deal. 700 is hardly an honor score these days, unless you know the condition was messed up.
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Re: How's the NS2 anyone?
« Reply #6 on: January 02, 2006, 05:07:07 PM »
charlest is right, it is for longer medium oil patterns. from what i have seen from this ball(i havent thrown it yet) it seems to be pretty versitle
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Re: How's the NS2 anyone?
« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2006, 11:44:10 AM »
The NS2 is all about control. I cannot stress enough how wonderfull this ball is.  I would say it is like a track slash on steriods.  This is one ball that I would NEVER alter the surface.  You would not be dissapointed if you picked up one of these gems.
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