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Equipment Boards => Other => Topic started by: JustinWi on September 21, 2009, 04:04:50 AM
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It is fast becoming very appropriate for MOTIV to have a place to centralize threads. As a dominant force in the "other" forum, I petition to create a MOTIV section.
Not only will this allow discussion to be in one easy to find place, it will also allow the videos of the gear I'll be posting over the coming weeks to be centralized. It is my belief that MOTIV will continue to exponentially grow, as well as solidify itself as a top manufacturer.
Please give the brand the respect is deserves in the creation of a "MOTIV" equipment section.
Regards,
Justin
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+1
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.....and here comes Ddrev in 3...2...1.....
but seriously.....
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I second the motion.
MOTIV in the Detroit area,and the central mid-west is a fast growing brand.
I have numbers of people that I have encountered ask about MOTIV equipment and,
who makes them and what each ball does.Just on my summer sport league, and the first two weeks of my fall leagues, I have had ten people purchase MOTIV for
the first time.Each and everyone of them love what the equipment does.They
are using the polish and cleaners and rave about them.Our wholesaler in
Detroit likes the product and carries it, which makes it easier for the people
in this area to find it.The more people who see these products being used
during 300/800's are very interested.What most pro shops are waiting for is
the entry and mid-level and plastic balls before they carry MOTIV.Selling to
the lower average bowlers something they can pay less for,then become interested
in the higher end products,is what they are telling me.With that said,more
shops are finding out about MOTIV and starting to carry the brand.It will take some time but,with quality products,MOTIV is going to continue to grow.MOTIV
is very active in college,junior,and adult scratch tournaments in Michigan.This grass roots involvement during a down economy is showing people that they
do care about the bowler.The bowling balls are U.S. made with the best U.S.
chemicals and U.S. employees.During Bowl Expo there was many top bowlers
coming to the MOTIV booth asking about the company.This was a very bright spot for Motiv.With MOTIV being registered with the PBA for regional an senior
events this hopefully with help the brand get more notice across the country.
With four great balls on the market and,one more on the way,this is a great
start in first year for a new bowling equipment company.
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I agree 100%
If a discontinued company like Dynothane can have a forum than I think all ball companies that actually produce new equipment should have their own forum.
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I have numbers of people that I have encountered ask about MOTIV equipment and, who makes them and what each ball does.
So who makes (pours) them? What does each ball do (difference between them)?
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MOTIV is the brand name for the ball company.The are owned by
Tech-Line Products. http://www.techlineproducts.com
TECH-LINE PRODUCTS
18570 Trimble Court
Spring Lake, MI 49456
Phone: 1.616.850.9868
Fax: 1.616.846.1473
Toll-Free: 1.800.235.8324
http://www.mlive.com/news/muskegon/index.ssf/2009/01/things_are_rolling_for_motiv_b.html
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MOTIV GIRL
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Just got an email from the PBA. in regards to membership, you get discounts on PBA registered products which apparently now includes MOTIV. Or at least they are advertising a discounted rate for the ball.
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http://www.mlive.com/news/muskegon/index.ssf/2009/01/things_are_rolling_for_motiv_b.html
Cool, so what's the "GX1"
Edited on 9/21/2009 2:12 PM
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The GX1 doesn't exist. It was a planned release, but the GT1 was released instead. Some Ace Mitchell price sheets show it as well.
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I have numbers of people that I have encountered ask about MOTIV equipment and, who makes them and what each ball does.
So who makes (pours) them? What does each ball do (difference between them)?
Tech-Line designs and pours them all in house, 100% manufactured in the USA. Tech-line has at one point in their history done work for just about every major manufacturer in various capacity.
In a nutshell, *granted drilling and surface are major factors*, the SX1 is longest, the TX1 is the smoothest, the GT1 is a superb benchmark, and the TR2 simply hooks.
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Just got an email from the PBA. in regards to membership, you get discounts on PBA registered products which apparently now includes MOTIV.
The MOTIV balls are cleared for Regional and Senior PBA events, except televised events.
Edited on 9/21/2009 3:06 PM
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n a nutshell, *granted drilling and surface are major factors*, the SX1 is longest, the TX1 is the smoothest, the GT1 is a superb benchmark, and the TR2 simply hooks.
People people YMMV. All bases are not covered but other manufacturers don't have all the bases covered either.
IMO the SX1 is the earliest rolling. So you won't get me to agree that it's the longest unless you put a high gloss polish over a very smooth underneath grit AND drill the guts out of it....and that was not the intention of Motiv when the ball came out to make it a drier lane ball. Lane conditioner stands up on top of the cover on both the SX1 and TX1 which now make them the drier and smoothest lane balls. It's the cover that made them with this factor IMO. One user of an SX1 that I know uses his on Shark as an underneath ball to go to.
I tend to believe real users instead of staffers that get free equipment. Non-staffers will give an unbiased opinion.
BTW....these are NOT cheap balls. Decent equipment I will agree. I can base my judgement from using (1) SX1 and (2) TX1's.
BTW...since AZO has been around way longer than Motiv where's their forum?
DynoThane and Faball forums should not be deleted IMO as in the database (if the search function would work better) are hundreds of posts of valuable information
Also, if you want Motiv info go here ----> http://www.motivbowling.com/forum
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Scott
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It is very unfortunate you don't consider staffers opinions to be valid and unbiased. I will completely agree there are those fanboys out there that will big up their company regardless, but I promise you one thing... My views will be unbiased. They have some really great gear, and are admittedly not the answer for everyone, but one thing that sets them apart is the whole attitude and vibe of the company. They are great people completely absorbed in being the best at what they do, while not losing touch with the end user. I have had the pleasure of talking to them pretty much daily for the last month, and these guys are different. I'd say it comes from the 25 years of refinement.
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IT's time
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It is very unfortunate you don't consider staffers opinions to be valid and unbiased.
Justin,
How can staffers be considered NOT biased, when they are paid, if only in equipment, to make that line of balls sound good? And that goes for staffers of any brand.
Now if you know the bowler personally, you can vouch for his integrity, BUT who knows if, even the fact that he is being paid makes him subconsciously feel like he has to make any ball seem better than it actually acted for him. It's human nature.
By the way, although I am the owner of only one Motiv ball, an SX-1, I do think the line is big enough, good enough, and has enough users to warrant its own forum.
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"None are so blind as those who will not see."
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agreed
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Justin,
How can staffers be considered NOT biased, when they are paid, if only in equipment, to make that line of balls sound good? And that goes for staffers of any brand.
Hopefully over time the validity of one's opinions can gain more clout, if proven worthy, regardless of staff position. High opinions don't always have to be bought.
I think there are those that are just out there to sell balls for the sake of sales, and then those that are committed to forwarding their brand by using it to help people become more successful.
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Always true, Justin.
Among the ones here, on br.com, that I never knew before, but now after reading so many of their reviews and talking to one of them, one to one a few times, RSalas of Brunswick and riggs of Storm, I feel I can trust exactly waht they say all the time, regarding balls. While I don't think he is a staffer (but probably should be), I feel I can alway strust what Pat Patterson has to say about Lanemaster balls.
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scotts33
IMO the SX1 is the earliest rolling. So you won't get me to agree that it's the longest unless you put a high gloss polish over a very smooth underneath grit AND drill the guts out of it....and that was not the intention of Motiv when the ball came out to make it a drier lane ball. Lane conditioner stands up on top of the cover on both the SX1 and TX1 which now make them the drier and smoothest lane balls. It's the cover that made them with this factor IMO. One user of an SX1 that I know uses his on Shark as an underneath ball to go to.
Scott.The SX1 is is very good ball for the shark.I used the SX1 sanded
to 500 abralon,the pin above the fingers 5 1/2" x 4".And a X-hole on my PAP.
During the weeks before getting the TR2 I averaged 217 with the SX1 on
the shark pattern.I mostly used the same surface on the SX1 at the USBC QUEENS
and averaged about 210 for 21 games.I believe the key with the SX1 is the cover,
because putting polish over a 2000-4000 surface allows me great length
and a smooth arc on drying surfaces.This is a very good ball.
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Scott.The SX1 is is very good ball for the shark.I used the SX1 sanded
to 500 abralon,the pin above the fingers 5 1/2" x 4".And a X-hole on my PAP.
During the weeks before getting the TR2 I averaged 217 with the SX1 on
the shark pattern.I mostly used the same surface on the SX1 at the USBC QUEENS
and averaged about 210 for 21 games.I believe the key with the SX1 is the cover,
because putting polish over a 2000-4000 surface allows me great length
and a smooth arc on drying surfaces.This is a very good ball.
I don't disagree Angela. I do disagree that the SX1 was designed as a dry lane ball...it is not IMO.
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Scott
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+1 on the Motiv forum. It's time for more Motiv.
A general cleanup of the defunct brands and addition of the new ones would be nice too. I mean, Banger?... Seriously?
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I bowl a lot of tournament and having a pro shop and working in a bowling center, I'm always looking at what others are using! I know the guys that bowl and know their abilities and have seen several guys use Motiv bowling balls. I've been impressed so far to what I've seen and the guys were using several different Motiv balls. I have used Techline products in my shop for years and they make a quality product. By the way, Dyno-Thane hasn't been discontinued, but it's products are Internation releases only and not for the USA!
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