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Title: Pyramid balls
Post by: lilpossum1 on September 25, 2014, 10:14:48 AM
Does anyone throw pyramid equipment? Opinions? They are starting to catch my attention, but I am hesitant to move away from mainstream companies. Possibly looking at the Dark Path, but the video for bowling ball.com make the ball look like it is holding back somehow... And idk if my pro shop will order it in
Title: Re: Pyramid balls
Post by: billdozer on September 25, 2014, 10:32:55 AM
That new divergent path has my attention... That core looks wild.
Title: Re: Pyramid balls
Post by: Gene J Kanak on September 25, 2014, 11:16:13 AM
A buddy of mine was throwing the orange and gray Chosen Path when he subbed for us last year. The ball looked adequate, but it didn't do anything that really made me stand up and take notice. That's not to say it's a bad ball by any means, just that it didn't stand out over anything else I was seeing thrown. If you really want to try something new and different, go for it; however, just be warned that, from my perspective, you aren't necessarily going to be getting anything you haven't seen before.
Title: Re: Pyramid balls
Post by: lilpossum1 on September 25, 2014, 12:22:11 PM
I know a guy that has been throwing the pink and green Chosen path for over a year. He seems to like it, but I haven't seen anything impressive with it either. Just seems like another ball...
Title: Re: Pyramid balls
Post by: MTbowler on September 25, 2014, 12:27:48 PM
I have 2 of the chosen path lime/pink balls, one drilled pin down, and one pin up. The pin up ball is the biggest hooking ball I have ever thrown, from any company. Both seem to carry well, have shot a couple honor scores with both pieces.

They are not anything crazy special, but a quality ball for a good price. They take really well to surface adjustments and the carry and overall reaction seems to be on par with other companies.
Title: Re: Pyramid balls
Post by: suhoney24 on September 25, 2014, 12:37:23 PM
That new divergent path has my attention... That core looks wild.
this...I took the plunge and ordered it (my first pyramid ball)...a super performance ball for about $30 bucks less then competitors top shelf stuff...plus if you pre-ordered you got a cleaning kit
Title: Re: Pyramid balls
Post by: Bowl_Freak on September 25, 2014, 10:39:28 PM
I too am intrigued with the Pyramid brand and am thinking of getting one to try. Some good deals and by the look of things, looks like any other ball out there from the big companies at a lower price. The new Blueprint looks awesome.
Title: Re: Pyramid balls
Post by: LuckyLefty on September 26, 2014, 05:53:10 AM
Mine arrives today!  Chosen Path.

Specs remind me of a Zero Gravity.  I have seen one also in our house and it looks like a cleaner coverstock Zero Gravity. 

Of course I have seen some Zeros polished up and they move similar once higher grits and polished are applied.

We will see....

REgards,

Luckierlefty

Title: Re: Pyramid balls
Post by: LuckyLefty on October 01, 2014, 05:21:35 AM
First impressions. 

It comes back! 

As a fan of slightly lower flare balls, I was not sure how a lower flare high intermediate differential would react, though I had seen videos of these balls and some Zero Gravity's around town.

My impression in detail is that this ball has a coverstock that reminds me of the old superllex from Columbia.  Weaker than the Zero Gravity cover!  In my mind that is good for my house and the push I seek.

Picture an old Ti Messenger Solid with the angularity you can produce with a strong mass bias position!  This is my first impresson.  Still tweaking coverstock (weakening) coverstock to not be so deep.

Angularity without the Jump of my JB Taboo!  Drilled exactly the same!

Regards,

Luckylefty



Title: Re: Pyramid balls
Post by: LuckyLefty on October 02, 2014, 06:30:31 PM
Well, wow!

This is the angular but somehow smooth version of my Jet Black Taboo which is just beautiful for my wet dry top hat.

I have had good sets with my Mission X pin way up version (Jason Couch drilling 1.5 pin buffer!).  6 pins have often been a problem.

But this pin up slightly version now 2000 with polish is just sweet.  No 6 pins,  I had many balls that struck and struck well today but this one just owned the pocket and the carry.  Many walked by and were quite impressed with area and carry!  I joined them nothing was close.

Surprisingly I may try it at just 2000 or just 3000 no polish!  I believe the ball might have originally been shipped in its used condition 1000 and had tremendous recovery but little push.

I will report back.  Oh my....

Regards,

Luckylefty
PS a Weighthole just above my VAL and deep taking the ball to 0 side weight was a surprise to me that it still allowed so much reaction.  Often weightholes in this spot lead to little recovery for me and a fairly straight up the boards play!
Title: Re: Pyramid balls
Post by: 900DJ on October 02, 2014, 09:05:34 PM
I had the orange smoke chosen path.  It was the strongest ball I had ever thrown for about 100 games.  After that the ball became weaker and weaker. Performed numerous oil extractions and resurfaced, but no luck.  If I put a fresh 2k surface on it every 3 games it still rolls good.  Awesome core, but seems to suffer from early cover death.

But my Dad still loves his green pearl chosen path.  He shot his second 300 with it tonight.
Title: Re: Pyramid balls
Post by: LuckyLefty on October 02, 2014, 09:33:50 PM
900DJ,

I have no idea of use on mine.  The Videos of the Green Pearl Chosen Path make it look even bigger in the back than the two solids...

I wonder how many games my used one had....he wouldn't tell me anything!  But, I like it!

REgards,

Luckylefty
PS at a seminar they noted dirt AND oil as the problem.  That the dirt clogs the pores and stops absorbtion.  They sold me the Adrenaline wipes.  I am afraid to use them except on some really old dead stuff, on my wet dry house shot.  Probably will soon!
Title: Re: Pyramid balls
Post by: Jorge300 on November 19, 2014, 12:06:51 PM
Does any one have any more updates on their Pyramid Equipment. I see that have new one coming out, Blood Moon. I am interested and giving it some thought. I thought I'd see if anyone has any updates.
 
Lefty, have you seen the "ball death" another poster mentioned with yours?
 
Appreciate everyone's time.
Title: Re: Pyramid balls
Post by: LuckyLefty on November 19, 2014, 02:19:19 PM
Jorge300,

Asking me a question...OK, I'll give my very best answer.

Pyramid balls?  Well I am now the owner of 3 Chosen Paths(lucky me I think).

Solid, Pearl, and Hybrid.

The Chosen Path core reminds me of the Zero Gravity Specs and core shape sort of!
The move of my Solid which I have a little more than a month of experience with is very similar but I perceive the coverstock as a little weaker!  It reminds me of Superflex from say a Ti Messenger solid.  The ball move is really sensational but I may be forced a little too deep to carry sometimes.

Like all Solid balls in this house unless one lofts the ball about 5 to 10 feet one is forced a little deep and then then hopes for a bunch of backend.  My ball which is used with an unknown amount of games seems to have  softened slightly on the backend recently.  However I often have a big game with it early in a set.  I don't doubt my Adrenaline wipe will revive if it has softened.

Yesterday I tried out my still illegal sideweight Pearl Chosen Path!  Oh my!  Not only is this ball sensational looking but incredible performance looks like it may be coming as I get this thing on the lanes with a legal setup.  This thing really hooks!

The Hybrid, I don't have an idea.  Yet.

Over the next two weeks I will know a lot more.  I also picked up a BW Legend and perceive the core and cover as a lot stronger.  What this necessitates is setting up weaker in my strong wet/dry house.

Bottom line I am not sure if assymetric solids are the answer to this house but I have often thought that assymetric pearls and hybrids may be.  The core in these balls are appealing.  Longevity of coverstock I will be exploring shortly.

Regards,

Luckylefty
Title: Re: Pyramid balls
Post by: suhoney24 on November 19, 2014, 11:47:03 PM
i noticed they have increased prices on balls...i thought that was their whole marketing, top tier balls that out do the competitors top ball prices
Title: Re: Pyramid balls
Post by: abide24899 on November 20, 2014, 12:40:50 AM
I drilled a handful of Chosen Paths for a handful of customers in the past year. They were pretty strong. If you know the RG and differential game, know how to lay out balls, and know how to match up your customers' surface, you can find success with these.

Title: Re: Pyramid balls
Post by: LuckyLefty on November 20, 2014, 12:50:31 PM
I think they raised prices on their latest releases which are to have stronger coverstocks.  I believe the old models stayed steady and the new models are $10 more.

I am still a fan.  These Chosen path assymetrics push better than others and have quite a bit on the backend.  The Pearl on first blush looks very big on the back.

Regards,

Luckylefty
PS more results to come...

Title: Re: Pyramid balls
Post by: suhoney24 on November 20, 2014, 03:24:58 PM
I noticed the chosen path pearl went up 10 dollars...
Title: Re: Pyramid balls
Post by: Jorge300 on November 20, 2014, 04:14:53 PM
LuckyLefty,
     Thank you for time. I look forward to hearing more about your results as you move forward.
Title: Re: Pyramid balls
Post by: stormed1 on November 22, 2014, 12:36:43 AM
I had a Chosen Path pearl and was suprised at how stromg it was. I sold it when I changed my fit last year and plan on getting another and drilling it a little weaker. The new Blood Moon as caught my eye as that core looks a lot like the core from the 900Global Lunatic orite balls
Title: Re: Pyramid balls
Post by: charlest on November 22, 2014, 07:10:49 AM
I just happened upon this thread and looked at the new Blood Moon.
Interesting ball, for medium oil - nice.
The core looked familiar; so I researched it - it's from the 900global Lunatic. So does this mean 900G is manufacturing the newer balls from Pyramid now?

The Black Friday price of $79.99 is very reasonable these days, for an older core. I wonder which 900G coverstock this is?
Title: Re: Pyramid balls
Post by: rackattack on November 22, 2014, 10:31:21 AM
So Storm is making Global and Global is making Pyramid. Wacky business.
Title: Re: Pyramid balls
Post by: charlest on November 22, 2014, 02:07:51 PM
So Storm is making Global and Global is making Pyramid. Wacky business.

Storm owns a controlling interest in 900Global. That's a different thing from Storm making Global. Storm labelled balls can be made in the 900 Global manufacturing plant, and 900G labelled balls can be made in the Storm manufacturing plant. Pyramid, if they are made by 900Global, is a different relationship. Pyramid (BowlingBall.com) contracts with 900G to make their balls.
Title: Re: Pyramid balls
Post by: Pattayabowler on November 23, 2014, 07:40:05 AM
Maybe some of the Pyramid balls are made by 900 Global, but I just picked up a Chosen Path Pearl and it says both on the box and on a sticker attached to the ball that it is designed in the USA and made in China.
Title: Re: Pyramid balls
Post by: charlest on November 23, 2014, 12:20:49 PM
Maybe some of the Pyramid balls are made by 900 Global, but I just picked up a Chosen Path Pearl and it says both on the box and on a sticker attached to the ball that it is designed in the USA and made in China.

When I said,
"So does this mean 900G is manufacturing the newer balls from Pyramid now?", I was referring to the Blood Moon. The Chosen Path is NOT one of their newer balls. I would guess that most or all of the "PATH" balls are/were made in China.
Title: Re: Pyramid balls
Post by: Bowler19525 on November 23, 2014, 02:40:19 PM
I just happened upon this thread and looked at the new Blood Moon.
Interesting ball, for medium oil - nice.
The core looked familiar; so I researched it - it's from the 900global Lunatic. So does this mean 900G is manufacturing the newer balls from Pyramid now?

The Black Friday price of $79.99 is very reasonable these days, for an older core. I wonder which 900G coverstock this is?

The Blood Moon has the same core that was also in the 900Global Jewel. 

If I didn't have such horrible results with the 900Global Network earlier this year, and someone else I bowl with didn't dislike their Jewel so much, I would pick one of these Blood Moons up for the $80.  I am just not going to deal with something based on 900Global tech at this point.  If the coverstock is NOT a 900Global formulation it may be worth trying, but I am not taking that risk. 

The Chosen Path is a good, strong ball.  I was hoping to see the Dark Path Hybrid at a better Black Friday price than $115.  If they were to bring that down to $90 or so I would order one.

I am currently using an Elite Treason, manufactured in China.  Really liking the performance of the ball.  I would have no qualms about getting another bowling ball made in China (aside from initial guilt of not buying a Made in USA product.)
Title: Re: Pyramid balls
Post by: LuckyLefty on November 24, 2014, 12:49:53 PM
Is the Blood Moon a Solid?

Regards,

Luckylefty
Title: Re: Pyramid balls
Post by: LuckyLefty on November 25, 2014, 12:49:19 PM
OK,

So I called BowlingBall.com/Pyramid and got a confirm the Blood Moon is a Solid.

Hmmmmm....I sure like the looks of the Jewel and old Global 900 Lunatic on the Youtube......In our house on the left.....Solid is often the best......Of course their video looks great ....similar spec/numbers to the Hysteria though a dramatically different looking core.....I have liked the Hysteria in a ball Demo!

Hmmmmm,,,,,,?

Regards,

Luckylefty
PS Black Friday price is very appealing!
Title: Re: Pyramid balls
Post by: suhoney24 on November 25, 2014, 03:11:30 PM
Went ahead and ordered a blood moom...for $80 I figured it was worth based on the backend movement this ball seems to have
Title: Re: Pyramid balls
Post by: Jorge300 on April 02, 2015, 10:46:40 AM
I wanted to bring this back to the top.
 
For those of you who purchased Pyramid balls on Black Friday, what was your take on them?
 
Also wanted to see if anyone has tried the Dark Path Hybrid 19.5 yet?
 
Thanks for the time.
Title: Re: Pyramid balls
Post by: billdozer on April 02, 2015, 07:45:59 PM
I still say that divergent path core is killer, being its 3 color any proof it is a 900 or a storm pour?
Title: Re: Pyramid balls
Post by: bowlingman817 on April 02, 2015, 11:25:17 PM
If I were going to buy pyramid I would get the blueprint and the dark path hybrid, both look pretty solid in the vids.
Title: Re: Pyramid balls
Post by: suhoney24 on April 03, 2015, 07:46:35 PM
Purchased the blood moon and can't find myself liking the ball no matter what...It's nowhere near as agressive for me as I thought it would be even with the sanded finish (strong roll/strong backend)
Title: Re: Pyramid balls
Post by: dougb on April 04, 2015, 03:35:01 AM
Purchased the blood moon and can't find myself liking the ball no matter what...It's nowhere near as agressive for me as I thought it would be even with the sanded finish (strong roll/strong backend)

That's the ball I'm most interested in! Have you played with the surface yet? How did you lay it out and what are your specs?
Title: Re: Pyramid balls
Post by: suhoney24 on April 05, 2015, 06:17:13 PM
Purchased the blood moon and can't find myself liking the ball no matter what...It's nowhere near as agressive for me as I thought it would be even with the sanded finish (strong roll/strong backend)

That's the ball I'm most interested in! Have you played with the surface yet? How did you lay it out and what are your specs?
sorry man i know none of that tech layout stuff...i just have a basic pin up drilling, ball is already sanded as i choose the strong roll/strong backend option...it hits hard but it just doesn't move like i thought it would
Title: Re: Pyramid balls
Post by: dougb on June 12, 2015, 06:25:47 AM
I got a Blood Moon for dirt cheap and couldn't like it any better. I went with a fairly aggressive layout and put it at 3000 abralon sanded as I don't see much oil around here and I am a low revs/speed stroker. This is not a strong ball for me either, but an excellent control piece and exactly what I need in a benchmark. Absolutely predictable and very good carry. The smooth roll and gentle arc reminds me of some of my Brunswick pieces.
Title: Re: Pyramid balls
Post by: JJM on June 13, 2015, 11:03:11 AM
Within the last couple of months I purchased the "Blueprint".  Can't  say enough about this ball, absolutely incredible, one of the best I've had in a long time.
Title: Re: Pyramid balls
Post by: dougb on June 13, 2015, 12:46:39 PM
Within the last couple of months I purchased the "Blueprint".  Can't  say enough about this ball, absolutely incredible, one of the best I've had in a long time.

I've been eyeing the Blueprint. Does anybody know how this ball would fit together with the Blood Moon?
Title: Re: Pyramid balls
Post by: JJM on June 13, 2015, 01:53:12 PM
I had the bloodmoon,  wound  up selling it early on didn't like it much. The Blueprint is longer,  extremely smooth and a VERY strong pronounced back end,  just awesome,  the perfect ball in my opinion. The bloodmoon was tame compared to the Blueprint.   
Title: Re: Pyramid balls
Post by: dougb on June 13, 2015, 02:04:02 PM
I had the bloodmoon,  wound  up selling it early on didn't like it much. The Blueprint is longer,  extremely smooth and a VERY strong pronounced back end,  just awesome,  the perfect ball in my opinion. The bloodmoon was tame compared to the Blueprint.   

Looking at their web site, it looks the two together would make a great 1-2 punch. The Blood Moon for the first two games when you want to play more direct and the Blueprint for when you want to open it up.
Title: Re: Pyramid balls
Post by: LuckyLefty on June 14, 2015, 02:18:14 PM
I own 3 of them.

Two Chosen Path's the Solid and the pearl.  Like the Solid a little too smooth for me might move the weighthole off the PAP.  Haven't gotten the Pearl set up quite right!

The Dark Path is sitting ready to go!  Recently bowled in a tournament and a no thumber made that thing sing.  Smooth and strong and lots of comeback!

As to the Dark Moon.  A friend had it brand new and looked real good with it for about 10 weeks, maybe 15.  In all reality for him it is sort of dead now.  He has replaced it with an old Marvel Pearl!  Looking great!  I am surprised as my Chosen Paths are much older and still hooking!

Regards,

Luckylefty
Title: Re: Pyramid balls
Post by: Schwanstuker on July 05, 2015, 10:24:39 PM
I replaced my hammer Bad Ass & Bad Intensions with the Solid & pearl Divergent Path balls and raised my average of barely touching 600 to nothing less than 680 the last 3 weeks, yesterday I shot a 737 with the pearl and won a doubles tournament.