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Equipment Boards => Other => Topic started by: 12XSECH on May 12, 2013, 09:52:08 AM
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Picking this ball up tomorrow. Having it drilled for midlane and heavier oil. Will post a review....Anybody else have the Reax?
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It is pretty strong. Don't get too crazy with an early or midlane rolling layout unless you plan on bowling on slicker patterns. It will burrn up on house shots if drilled too strong.
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Personally I never see anything that I have been able to throw the Reax on. The ball i have has a 3.5 inch Pin with a DA layout of 50x4.5x40. I thought I would be able to use it at Nationals for Team Event, but it was still too much ball for me to use on the pattern.
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It is super strong. I played with several differnt surface changes to get a more usable reaction. Heavy polish worked really well. Also sanded at 4000 grit.
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I didnt get it drilled yet. My intention for this ball is tournaments only...not THS league.
The tournaments around here use the Kegel sports pattern which are not that easy to play. The next pattern being used id the "dead mans Curve". In league I avg 221 but on these Kegel patterns I have to slow my speed down to get to the pocket. This is why Im going with the Reax. Hopefully this ball will give me a better look then my Nightmare or Terror.
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It really is a bleeping beast. I am pretty much a stroker, so I need all the help I can get on long oil. This was the one ball I could get to tip on the really heavy, long stuff. I even saw some pretty decent back end when I missed right.
I used it at nationals for team, but hadn't bowled with it enough to really know what it would do, so needed to put it away about mid way through. It does hit hard, way more so than my Defiant (you want it?).
My two cents . . .
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I agree the reax is a beast, i even took the surface of mine to 4000 and its still plenty strong but it is more playable, kind of why i got rid of my defiant , and my 811c/t
jeff
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Im getting it drilled tonight. I might try it out after the leagues are finished but the shot will be worn out. My driller suggested I go with the sharp breakpoint layout that Radical has on their drill sheet. I was planning on going with the heavy roll drilling, but this ball might burn up early with that pattern. Will post a review if I get to use it tonight.
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Why is it that many top bowlers are drilling this ball with such small drill angles?
I note this video...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4negcQrRw4
I have seen this bowlers with wider drill angles? The ball looks great with these drills but I was just curious why I am seeing this.
I also note this video..
The one bowler with a drill angle wider than 45 degrees....the ball looks, well sort of lazy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3dRAAxvV74
Any thoughts?
Regards,
Luckylefty
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with the smaller drill angles, you are trying to get the ball started earlier, burn off energy, and create a smoother ball roll. all the bowlers in these vids have high rev rates and play the middle of the lane. with a larger drill angle, the ball would flip out of the building because of the oil in the middle and the dry on the back. this is just my assumption. Mine has smaller drilling angles as well (65x4.5"x35, small for me) and the ball HOOKS. Im thinking about doing another one and drilling it like my Ravage for the Heavier THS (45x4.5"x40, P2). P1.5-P2.5 really seems to work well for me.
Why is it that many top bowlers are drilling this ball with such small drill angles?
I note this video...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4negcQrRw4
I have seen this bowlers with wider drill angles? The ball looks great with these drills but I was just curious why I am seeing this.
I also note this video..
The one bowler with a drill angle wider than 45 degrees....the ball looks, well sort of lazy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3dRAAxvV74
Any thoughts?
Regards,
Luckylefty
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Righty,
The first set of drillings is 25degrees and 15 degrees. I have seen these bowlers demo many a Storm and Roto or Brunswick ball with much wider drill angles.
These very tight angles surprised me...
Regards,
Luckylefty
PS I am wondering why? The difference
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Perhaps they have low tracks and/or high tilt?
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dR3w,
thats a really good assumption. and maybe they know something we dont. Maybe Mo chose the layouts.
Lefty,
My assumption is still to control the backend by burning energy in the fronts and mids. DeVaney especially, has a huge rev rate and what looks to me to be a high Axis Rotation. That spells automatic backend, (depending on other factors, and with him playing the middle of the lane.
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For some reason they have chosen other drillings for other Assymetrics for Mr. Devany
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PafUZFMRXnI
Also the Hell Raiser Terror
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diCRzDbBbtU
The constant the bowlers the difference the drillings. Why?
Regards,
Luckylefty
Luckylefty
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Bare in mind they chose to keep the angles tight on Delaney s reax
Cause he planned to polish it as In the video
Mike likes all his equipment shined
I myself tried the same layout with the tight angles
And my intention to was to polish it but I never got past 4000 ab
The ball really seems to work best for me at 4000
Just my 2 cents here
Jeff
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Swaff,
I appreciate the comments.
Of course I see this drill sheet and note the forward roll drilling for low track players.
http://wiki.bowlingchat.net/wiki/images/1/1a/Radical_Asymmetrical.pdf
I also note Mr. Devaney's speed, axis rotation and tilt of 15 degrees.
I was a little surprised to see great the drilling looked for Joshua with only 10 degrees of tilt!
I actually was surprised how good this drilling looked for him a higher track player on this ball.
This is a drilling set up that I have tended to like on 40 foot oil shots. Right now bowling on a 35 foot shot most of the time.
But I have a drilling like this on a Brunswick 3.5 I picked up....I may get the ball to fit my hand and give it a whirl... My axis rotation like Mike Devany's, My tilt like Joshua's, my speed more like Aunt Margaret's! (kidding about 15 at the pins on a fast day)
Regards,
Luckylefty
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Used it last night in league. Fresh oil, the pattern is a modified Kegel Main Street. This "modified" pattern has larger volumes of oil. I kept in OOB... its drilled pin up slightly to right of ring finger,,,GC about 2 inches out of center of grip and on the mid line..MB about 2 inches to right of thumb. Im not a driller..but the drill angle is 45 degrees. Im a tweener, avg 221, avg speed avg revs. I like to play this pattern up the boards around 10, swing to 5 and the ball comes back....THIS BALL I couldnt play that line. I had to hit more oil so I moved left threw it inside of 3rd arrow to around 5 and the ball came roaring back. A banana type hook. What I like most is that this ball revs MUCH more then my Nightmare or Revenge. Also I had to increase my speed to get it to the pocket...I was looking like a cranker..lol. Only 3 solid ten pins the entire night. Sunday Im using it a tournament with the Kegel "dead mans curve" pattern. Hopefully it eats up this pattern to!
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I got to throw my Reax last night, (i say "got to" because I RARELY get to throw it, LOL!, it decides whether or not there enough oil to use it) and unlike the subject about another posters Reax dying, mine hooks more than when I drilled it. It chews oil and its the only Heavy Oil Asym I've had to make a big move on the backend with multiple surface changes since the RotoGrip Cell.
I start the night with it and shoot 255. The lanes played extremely tight and the middle of the lane in Walnut Hill is a no mans land and the Reax was the only ball to move so I started out playing 6 to 4. By the end of game 1, I was 9 to 5... Considering Im left handed and the only one on the pair.... thats a 4 board target move.... and thats a lot kiddies. Its a strong ball, almost no matter how you drill it.... lol!
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I havnt seen posts on the reax dieing....I hope that isnt true!
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I havnt seen posts on the reax dieing....I hope that isnt true!
There was a subject about Radical Covers and one of the posters stated that his father's and his had died after 20 games. I got about 20 on mine it's seems like it is just getting started. Although it has the cover from the DV8 Nightmare, from my understanding, I didn't like the Nightmare at all. It never seemed like it had enough in oil and on the dry it puked. The Reax delivers for me what the Nightmare couldn't.
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I have the nightmare also, didnt know it was same cover....For me the nightmare is spotty..but when the condition is right the ball is awesome! I read on Radicals site that the Slant HD has a cover that the more its used the stronger it gets. I was hoping the same for the Reax.
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The Reax is strong. Every ball will change based on the conditions and the surface.
Every time your throwing the ball the lane is resurfacing the track area. The smoother the lanes surface is like using a softer grit sanding pad on the ball. The rough the lanes surface (such as wood) the rougher the bowling balls surface will become.
Example, you have the Reax at box finish of 1500 grit and you bowl every week on a very smooth synthetic set of lanes. The balls surface in your track will change towards the surface of the lanes. After 3-6 games the track area could easily be closer to 3000 grit.
Same ball on a rougher wood set of lanes after 3-6 games could be closer to 1000 or 800 grit.
The ball looks the same but may not react the same.
Take time (4:30) to watch the vid. Or at least watch from the 3:15 mark on
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMwsO2JCZxY
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I havnt seen posts on the reax dieing....I hope that isnt true!
There was a subject about Radical Covers and one of the posters stated that his father's and his had died after 20 games. I got about 20 on mine it's seems like it is just getting started. Although it has the cover from the DV8 Nightmare, from my understanding, I didn't like the Nightmare at all. It never seemed like it had enough in oil and on the dry it puked. The Reax delivers for me what the Nightmare couldn't.
The cover is not the same as the Nightmare. As Phil stated in a different post, the covers are unique to Radical.
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Why is it that many top bowlers are drilling this ball with such small drill angles?
I note this video...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4negcQrRw4
I have seen this bowlers with wider drill angles? The ball looks great with these drills but I was just curious why I am seeing this.
I also note this video..
The one bowler with a drill angle wider than 45 degrees....the ball looks, well sort of lazy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3dRAAxvV74
Any thoughts?
Regards,
Luckylefty
(In regards to the ball looking lazy) If you look at Dustin's other videos, I think you see a very similar reaction. It is kind of hard to tell with an all black ball, but I think he has very low axis rotation, and thus you won't really see the ball jump off the dry like you would for others with hight Axis Rotation. Perhaps being two handed, he controls the high revs with that low AR. Could just be me though :)