Post by: Bar5003 on September 30, 2007, 02:32:16 PM
I have had a TON of requests to compare the Black Widow and The Break from 900 Global in video form
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8o6iwWtWpc
My thoughts:
I can only imagine the controversy this is going to cause
In the end NO ONE can take away the success of the Black Widow...It is one of the best balls ever made in my eyes. But after using THE BREAK for a few weeks now, i have noticed that it has a bit more continuation and can handle a little more oil than Widow can. Does that make it better than the widow? I dont know thats for you to decide...they both have their place in my eyes...let the debate begin!Needless to say for 900 Global to get a reaction close to if not stronger than one of the most recently successful bowling balls for their first release, i say BRAVO to them...Great Job Guys!
Disclamer: These are my resuts with these two balls...you may have different results...and i have never claimed to be the most accurate bowler in the world, but i feel i gave both balls a fair look in the video....Thanks for watching!
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Post by: 302efi on October 02, 2007, 06:45:44 AM
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great video! Really nice to see an un-biased comparison of a couple balls.
Matt...Take a closer look, this is all about how good the The Break is and how much better then it is from the Widow.
Why do you think that this is posted in HERE...and NOT the Hammer forum ?
Also, check the qoute :
Needless to say for 900 Global to get a reaction close to if not stronger than one of the most recently successful bowling balls for their first release, i say BRAVO to them...Great Job Guys!
What I don't get is that Britton gets free gear from both these compaines, so why would he even make this kinda video and IMO, bite the hand that feeds him and make the Widow look bad...?
Also, this isnt even posted on the videoballreviews website, just on good 'ole youtube. Can'y put a video bashing a ball your suppose to make look good (Widow) on the actual site...
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Post by: Bar5003 on October 02, 2007, 07:04:14 AM
and it is now being posted in the hammer forum...i posted it here because thats where the discussion was, in the "other" forum
i have no agenda on this one...there was a discussion about this comparison so i made a video of it...
both are great balls, and what i said before was true...the fact that they got close to one of the BEST balls i have ever thrown as far as reaction is great for them...
i have had 3 black widows and put a hundred games on the first two before i retired them....i love that ball
no biting the hand that feeds...if there is a discussion of the break vrs "insert ball here" i will attempt to do the comparison if i have the ball...and i will make it as fair as possible
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Post by: tenpin on October 02, 2007, 08:19:44 AM
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Post by: billy2gun on October 02, 2007, 08:59:09 AM
It's very helpful to see comparison videos, which helps bowlers make wise choices when deciding on balls to purchase for their arsenals. I am looking for a benchmark ball, and I am intrigued with The Break. From what I saw from the video; The Break seems slightly stronger than the BW.
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Post by: 302efi on October 02, 2007, 09:14:06 AM
This vid shows he is or was biased making this vid toward Hammer and the BW.
All I'm saying is if hes going to do video ball reviews, its better to NOT do videos comparing balls from different companies in the same video. Looks bad and biased since this went right to this forum and nowhere else (at first).
What I'm saying Britton is that you got a seperate vid of The Break a seperate vid of the Black Widow on your site. Just let people watch them and make there own conclusions.
Imagine if a big internet proshop like Buddies did a vid like this...Theres a reason they don't do it, just a little food for thought
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Post by: shelley on October 02, 2007, 09:26:44 AM
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the Black Widow...It is one of the best balls ever made in my eyes.
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i have had 3 black widows and put a hundred games on the first two before i retired them....i love that ball
I can't put these two quotes together and still call the BW one of the best ever. I don't see how one of the best balls ever made can possibly be retired (by necessity or otherwise) after only 100 games. 300-500 games, now you've got a ball that's worth calling "one of the best ever".
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Post by: Bar5003 on October 02, 2007, 09:35:07 AM
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the Black Widow...It is one of the best balls ever made in my eyes.quote:
i have had 3 black widows and put a hundred games on the first two before i retired them....i love that ball
I can't put these two quotes together and still call the BW one of the best ever. I don't see how one of the best balls ever made can possibly be retired (by necessity or otherwise) after only 100 games. 300-500 games, now you've got a ball that's worth calling "one of the best ever".
SH
100 games is alot for me...i get so many new balls i throw most balls 10-20 games @ the most...sorry i should have clarified that one shelley
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Post by: Bar5003 on October 02, 2007, 09:44:44 AM
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i could understand your point if he sold balls, but he doesnt. People asked for it and he brought it. its not like he is on someones payroll, if hammer gets upset so be it, nobody has ever said that the BW was a bad ball. Lets face it, that ball is over a year old now, they sold a gazillion of them, do think hammer really cares now?? people will still continue to buy their products, just now some may choose the break over that particular ball at this point. hammer was first now global has made a comparable if not better release. its just business, he is not endorsing just doing a taste test. i dont think hammer should be too concerned over such a small company, if they are i guess global is doing a good job.
As he said i am on no-ones payroll...i am supplying everyone with an unbiased opinion of both balls...i have friends at both hammer and global so i was not playing favorites...
I dont get paid to do these videos...sure i get lots free equipment and accessories, which is a form of payment...some may say, well you can sell those balls to make a profit...i make it a policy to not sell anything i got for free until it is discontinued...if i paid for it on the otherhand, that would be a different story...
SO that being said why should i be biased towards one company and not another...all the companies i do work for treat me very well, i wouldnt do anything to screw that up...i will be happy to accomidate some requests for other inter-company comparisons if a discussion arrises and i feel the need for one...and all companies will get a fair chance, the better ball will show through....
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Post by: Bar5003 on October 02, 2007, 10:02:21 AM
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nice video, the results are exactly as they should have been, Black Widow is higher RG, and contrary to the beliefs of some, the mass bias is substantially less in the Black Widow, so the Widow should hook less. Would it be possible to get a comparison video for the Infinite One and the Break? Those two have eerily similar numbers and weightblocks, that way we could compare coverstocks.
I think some of you are missing the point, the comparison is nice, but it is not a fair test, the Black Widow has a smaller engine, wouldn't it be great to compare different companies equipment that have similar cores, then we could truly see the differences in covers. That would definately save me some money.
Agreed...your first post was right on...im still waiting for my infinite one
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Post by: newguy on October 02, 2007, 10:35:21 AM
I think a fair comparison is price points than you can see what you are getting for your hard earned cash.
Post by: shelley on October 02, 2007, 10:48:39 AM
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100 games is alot for me...i get so many new balls i throw most balls 10-20 games @ the most...sorry i should have clarified that one shelley
But it isn't for me or most people. 100 games is basically one league season, not counting practice outside of leagues. If I have to retire a ball after 100 games, then I've basically spent $2/game above what the house charges me. If I can't get 300+ games out of a ball, it simply isn't worth buying. I can't buy a lot of balls, and no ball, to me, can be called one of the best without that longevity.
I buy one or two balls a year, I bowl in two winter leagues plus summer leagues. I bowl a few tournaments and practice from time to time. In a year, I'll throw 200-300 games on each ball. I'd get my butt kicked for replacing a ball with only 100 games on it.
SH
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Post by: Bar5003 on October 02, 2007, 11:00:30 AM
simply put I retired them so i could throw all the other equipment i get not because they died @ 100 games
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100 games is alot for me...i get so many new balls i throw most balls 10-20 games @ the most...sorry i should have clarified that one shelley
But it isn't for me or most people. 100 games is basically one league season, not counting practice outside of leagues. If I have to retire a ball after 100 games, then I've basically spent $2/game above what the house charges me. If I can't get 300+ games out of a ball, it simply isn't worth buying. I can't buy a lot of balls, and no ball, to me, can be called one of the best without that longevity.
I buy one or two balls a year, I bowl in two winter leagues plus summer leagues. I bowl a few tournaments and practice from time to time. In a year, I'll throw 200-300 games on each ball. I'd get my butt kicked for replacing a ball with only 100 games on it.
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Post by: 302efi on October 03, 2007, 09:46:26 AM
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i could understand your point if he sold balls, but he doesn't. People asked for it and he brought it. its not like he is on someone payroll, if hammer gets upset so be it, nobody has ever said that the BW was a bad ball. Lets face it, that ball is over a year old now, they sold a gazillion of them, do think hammer really cares now?? people will still continue to buy their products, just now some may choose the break over that particular ball at this point. hammer was first now global has made a comparable if not better release. its just business, he is not endorsing just doing a taste test. i don't think hammer should be too concerned over such a small company, if they are i guess global is doing a good job.
You don't think hammer would have a problem with this showing how there ball didn't fair better in the video ?? It doesn't matter how many they sold in the past, the BW is still is still in production. Like someone else said, Hammer could say that test wasn't fair because the balls were too different.
Small company or not, consider this: Most bowlers are wanting the biggest hooking ball, correct ?...Watch the video and tell me which ball you would pick based on that..The Break.
You think Hammer would support that ?
I would find it hard for any company to support (meaning: free balls and gear) videos making there gear look bad.
Britton as a unbiased ball tester, I'm not sure how you can say this:
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the better ball will show through....
Better ball ? What exactly is "the better ball" ?
So based on that, your saying The Break is "the better ball" based this video ?
I'll go tell all my buddies to go order a Break off the net...lol
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Post by: 302efi on October 03, 2007, 10:02:20 AM
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302 why are you get so mad about this? If I remember right Ebonite did this exact same thing on there web site a few months back comparing The One Series to just about every ball out at the time. Does anyone remember that?
Not mad Ironhorse, just an impressionable consumer
I think I remember the Ebonite test. Were the balls donated to Ebonite ?
lol
To be honest I'm pretty sure that Britton didn't mean to make either ball look bad.....
....but after watching the video, ask yourself, does it make either ball look bad or make one look better ?
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Post by: Bar5003 on October 03, 2007, 10:17:40 AM
i made a video comparing the two balls
take it as you will...im no expert and i never claimed to be an expert
i made the video as fair as possible (how many times have you seen comparison videos and they have completly different layouts and surfaces)
The break hooked more...is that always a good thing? NO Maybe it can be interpreted as the Black widow is more controllable...everyone will interpret this video different...i just supplied the visual for it
and i said the better ball will show through because it is an interpretation...someone may look at that video and say i dont like how the break turns the corner that hard i think the WIDOW is the better ball...
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Post by: qstick777 on October 03, 2007, 10:27:48 AM
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plain and simple...there was a discussion about comparing the two balls...
i made a video comparing the two balls
take it as you will...im no expert and i never claimed to be an expert
i made the video as fair as possible (how many times have you seen comparison videos and they have completly different layouts and surfaces)
The break hooked more...is that always a good thing? NO Maybe it can be interpreted as the Black widow is more controllable...everyone will interpret this video different...i just supplied the visual for it
and i said the better ball will show through because it is an interpretation...someone may look at that video and say i dont like how the break turns the corner that hard i think the WIDOW is the better ball...
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I think they're just mad because you didn't show the BW striking.
You only showed the line that made The Break strike and the BW not strike. To appease everybody, you'll have to go back and throw a different line which causes the BW to strike and The Break to either come in light or too high.
Of course, it may turn out that using "that line" may also cause The Break to strike.
I think they are probably looking for something more like what you did with the AMF comparison videos - The Break strikes playing X at the arrows and Y at the breakpoint. In order for the BW to strike I had to move Z boards at the arrows and W boards at the break.
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Post by: Bar5003 on October 03, 2007, 10:42:26 AM
but that does make sense qstick...i have gotten away from doing that (saying where i stand, what i hit)...part of the reason why is my ability to do the overlay shots now with my new software...so you can actually see that the balls are right on top of each other in the front part of the lane and seperate downlane
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Post by: 302efi on October 03, 2007, 11:36:06 AM
Actually you for saw this coming in your original post:
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I can only imagine the controversy this is going to cause...
You say people might see the Black Widow as controllable ? Yeah thats Hammer markets the ball. The BW is most controllable ball in their line-up. See they even said so in the ball description:
"...the Black Widow goes long and attacks violently on the backend."
http://hammerbowling.com/products/balls/detail.php?PRKey=51
So I'm not allowed to question anything about the video ?
Ok man you win. The Break is the bestest ball I ever seen, its way better then the Black Widow.
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Post by: Bar5003 on October 03, 2007, 12:07:37 PM
I made a video, take it as you will...i know what was going through my head when i made it, and it was not to make either ball look better...
ask Eric Thomas from global, he was one of the MANY to request the video...i told him i was going to do this fair and square and let the true reactions of the balls show through...even if it made THE BREAK look like a turd...
the only thing that slightly angers me is people puting words in my mouth and telling me what my intentions were with this video or any video i do for that matter...
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Post by: Bar5003 on October 03, 2007, 12:29:13 PM
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I'm po'd at Britton because I thought I had a great source of quailty used 16lb equipment until he man -downed and went to 15's...
Lol...sorry, what can i say, i'm a whimp
i still have quite a few quality 16# balls for sale...come to PA Vince and you can haul them away free
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Post by: Djarum on October 03, 2007, 12:50:39 PM
Its not about which ball is better.
Its about having the right ball for the right condition. Plain and simple.
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Post by: oprahsdouche on October 03, 2007, 02:49:22 PM
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This thread is so silly.
Its not about which ball is better.
Its about having the right ball for the right condition. Plain and simple.
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This may be silly, but both are marketed for the same conditions (med/heavy oil). Thanks Bar for shedding some light on the matter. When I did a thread on this many weeks back about Eric and myself comparing the Break and the Widow, people were having a hard time believing that this IS a much more versatile ball and does hook more (comparing layouts as we did and lane conditions). Sometimes you just can't convince anyone if they are just set in their ways and not willing to step outside the box.
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Post by: 302efi on October 04, 2007, 09:17:33 AM
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...people were having a hard time believing that this IS a much more versatile ball and does hook more.
Yep...Hooks more...Guess that means its better !!!
I told a couple people about it last night and they said they are going to order one off the net today !
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Post by: oprahsdouche on October 04, 2007, 09:34:28 AM
Post by: Bar5003 on October 04, 2007, 09:36:33 AM
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I told a couple people about it last night and they said they are going to order one off the net today !
...I'll update back when they get them !
Remember, Global stuff is only available via pro shops and is not sold by any online e-tailers...so if they cant find them, they will either have to go through their local shop or contact global directly...
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Post by: Djarum on October 04, 2007, 10:54:37 AM
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This thread is so silly.
Its not about which ball is better.
Its about having the right ball for the right condition. Plain and simple.
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This may be silly, but both are marketed for the same conditions (med/heavy oil). Thanks Bar for shedding some light on the matter. When I did a thread on this many weeks back about Eric and myself comparing the Break and the Widow, people were having a hard time believing that this IS a much more versatile ball and does hook more (comparing layouts as we did and lane conditions). Sometimes you just can't convince anyone if they are just set in their ways and not willing to step outside the box.
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I appologize. I meant the bickering is silly. Thats fine that you feel the break is more versatile. My point is that two balls can be marketed the same way, but have slightly different places in an arsenal. Someone with more revs might appreciate the less hook potential of the BW, where someone who has less revs will appreciate the Breaks greater hook potential. Versatility is completly subjective for the most part. There, in the past, have been a few pieces that no matter what you did were still condition specific for many bowlers.
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Post by: qstick777 on October 04, 2007, 11:01:45 AM
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hijack time, exactly whats the diff in no selling on the net, and "PM me and I 'll sell you one"?
That's an individual pro shop selling his own stock - he's adding a couple of dollars to the price, tacking on shipping and making a little bit of money. It's not Ace Mitchell ordering 400 cases of the ball and selling them to pro shops for one set price and dumping the rest to bowlingball.com for a lower price.
Basically, distributors aren't making any money off the balls. Pro shops aren't complaining because the customers can buy the ball cheaper online than the shop can get it from the distributor.
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Post by: Bowl4Dough on October 04, 2007, 08:33:20 PM
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Remember, Global stuff is only available via pro shops and is not sold by any online e-tailers...so if they cant find them, they will either have to go through their local shop or contact global directly...
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we all know why Britton showcases 900 Global and AMF on his bowling review site,doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure it out,He receives free balls from them,many sources on here have confirmed that,even ex-AMF sale Reps.
Hes been getting freebies from AMF for a while now,thats why he suddenly went all AMF awhile back,now its 900 Global,in a way it did put down Hammer if you ask me.
once you compare a ball to another big time Name like Hammer,you'd better expect not only us users,but thecompany to come down on you....like a HAMMER!!!
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Post by: RealBowler on October 04, 2007, 11:43:52 PM
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Remember, Global stuff is only available via pro shops and is not sold by any online e-tailers...so if they cant find them, they will either have to go through their local shop or contact global directly...
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we all know why Britton showcases 900 Global and AMF on his bowling review site,doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure it out,He receives free balls from them,many sources on here have confirmed that,even ex-AMF sale Reps.
Hes been getting freebies from AMF for a while now,thats why he suddenly went all AMF awhile back,now its 900 Global,in a way it did put down Hammer if you ask me.
once you compare a ball to another big time Name like Hammer,you'd better expect not only us users,but thecompany to come down on you....like a HAMMER!!!
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Wow, genius! Hey, I bet that every ball he has made a video was FREE!
How about you go out, buy a camera (or 2 or 3), some nice video editing software (not the free stuff with Windows), get your own domain name and webhosting, go out and film the shots, and then spend hours working on a 2-3 minute video.....all to get a free bowling ball that probably cost the company all of about $45 to produce.
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Post by: Bar5003 on October 05, 2007, 04:42:38 AM
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Wow, genius! Hey, I bet that every ball he has made a video was FREE!
Just about...some i have paid for but not many lol
Examples: i paid for the extra secret agent in that video and the widow for this video...
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Post by: RealBowler on October 05, 2007, 10:00:14 AM
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Wow, genius! Hey, I bet that every ball he has made a video was FREE!
Just about...some i have paid for but not many lol
Examples: i paid for the extra secret agent in that video and the widow for this video...
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Better man than me. I personally wouldn't spend my time making a "nice" video for a company unless they wanted to send me the product.
I might make a video, but I wouldn't go through all the extras that you do to fully advertise the product. I wouldn't give them the "whole package."
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