Post by: a_ak57 on November 21, 2004, 04:05:42 AM
Too bad for walter, he has to wait for another day.
GO angelo!
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Post by: a_ak57 on November 21, 2004, 12:07:22 PM
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Post by: Iketown300 on November 21, 2004, 12:08:44 PM
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Post by: charlest on November 21, 2004, 12:10:47 PM
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He sure gets the job done
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throwing the ball thru the nose and almost Brooklyn on TV is "getting the job done". Sorry, I don't understand.
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Post by: Mike Austin on November 21, 2004, 01:07:19 PM
Everybody needs breaks to win, yes, Charlest he got the job done. You can't redo those bad shots, it just happens. Today was Rick's day. He's got two titles, 6-0 on TV lifetime, and exempt for next year too. Job Done!!!
Way to go Ricky!!!
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Post by: JOE FALCO on November 21, 2004, 01:24:25 PM
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Post by: a_ak57 on November 21, 2004, 01:26:55 PM
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Post by: charlest on November 21, 2004, 02:22:30 PM
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I was just saying how his game is soo, blah, but he still made it out there. Not so much the win againest wrw. He did throw some good though.
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I guess he better "get the job done" somehow; he sure is not a stylist.
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Post by: charlest on November 21, 2004, 02:25:50 PM
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Everybody needs breaks to win, yes, Charlest he got the job done. You can't redo those bad shots, it just happens. Today was Rick's day. He's got two titles, 6-0 on TV lifetime, and exempt for next year too. Job Done!!!
Way to go Ricky!!!
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Mike,
My point was he didn't get the job done. Sheer luck gave it to him. He didn't actually stroke a good ball until he had Angelo beaten somewhere around the 8th frame. Only then and there could you see his ability.
Even slipping and sliding all over the place, WRW put 10 of 11 balls in the pocket, with 3 of them weak 10 pins. This is where a good manufacturer's rep could have helped WRW with a better ball selection, I believe. Whatever ... show's over. Not very entertaining, bowling-wise.
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Post by: seadrive on November 21, 2004, 02:42:53 PM
Then, the Rick Lawrence fiasco began. I'm not trying to say the guy can't bowl, but he's, ummmm... shall we say, less than impressive to watch. To the untrained eye, it looks like he has no backswing and gets about 3 or 4 revs (which you can count watching the ball going down the lane), all of which are provided by a robo-brace.
Actually, it probably looks that way to the trained eye, also.
Those two nose jobs which resulted in strikes really made me want to puke, and completely ruined the show. For WRW to lose in that fashion, after all the hype about history in the making, was very depressing.
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Post by: TwoFourEightNineNine on November 21, 2004, 02:55:07 PM
Steady Rick stayed Steady and thats all he had to do today.
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Post by: tonybowls on November 21, 2004, 05:05:44 PM
Post by: JOE FALCO on November 21, 2004, 05:44:02 PM
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Post by: jkiser01 on November 21, 2004, 05:49:42 PM
The bottom line is he is a PBA champion and all of the people complaining about him are not!!
He has been on tour 15 years and won 2 tournamnets and I for one am happy that he won instead of the same old people every week..
Way to go Rick Lawrence, congrats to you!!
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If they only made a ball that would carry that da_n 7 pin (and I am right handed!!)
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Post by: a_ak57 on November 21, 2004, 05:53:09 PM
, i could care less about WRW. I was just sayin, he really shouldn't have gotten those two strikes like that. Not even I get lucky enough to carry two bad shots in a game.--------------------
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Post by: LuckyLefty on November 21, 2004, 05:53:22 PM
I actually like the way the ball rolls on the lane! Good and strong! Heavy roll and hit!
Hey was that the Victory SPT moppin up there? I could not tell at all!
REgards,
Luckylefty
Post by: jkiser01 on November 21, 2004, 07:41:37 PM
Thats why I don't like WRW and am glad he got his butt kicked!!
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Post by: Lane1Redneck on November 21, 2004, 07:44:12 PM
and didn't they say he's never been beaten on Tv yet ???
might not have been all pretty shots.. BUT..
HE GOTTER DONE...
always likes the underdog...
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Post by: channel surfer on November 22, 2004, 05:00:12 AM
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Rick has one of the lowest backswings I've ever seen a pro on TV have..
and didn't they say he's never been beaten on Tv yet ???
might not have been all pretty shots.. BUT..
HE GOTTER DONE...
always likes the underdog...
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Post by: lefty50 on November 22, 2004, 05:36:17 AM
Remember we all talk about the fact that bowling has become easy. They get mad when they can't hook the ball 20 boards,and go for style over substance, whining when they don't get a break.
Read back thru the comments. Here it is again....
"Lousy style", "lucky shot", "weak".
Boys, your mother and I insist that you stop whining or we'll have to ground you.
He has a style, he has a game, he had some luck. His, style, his game, his way to knock down 10 pins.
He got it done.
And by the way, you can't be 6-0 on TV without having a a game.
Deal with it.
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Post by: scotts33 on November 22, 2004, 05:49:16 AM
Thing I liked about the show very equal show 2 lefties two righties.
Scott
Post by: Robert on November 22, 2004, 05:52:07 AM
You are so right!! I kind of lost the taste for bowling now after what WRW did to Rick on national TV. I thought the PBA had high standards and sportsmanship was one of them. Even when Brad was having it bad and was saying things, he did congradulate Rick at the end. He even was asking for help from the audience at the end.
We all get breaks now and then. I even shot 2 through the nose at my league and put all ten in the pit. It's about time we see different people on top. I would like to see Mica bowl again. He has an unusual style. He lofts the ball 20' down the lane and gets the job done.
All I have to say is good job RL. Keep it up.
Cheers
Robert
Post by: jkiser01 on November 22, 2004, 06:21:19 AM
I am glad someone else saw what an a@@ WRW was when he lost his match. I guess he thinks his opponents should just roll over and die when they are facing the legend. I agree, WRW is a great bowler but I lost alot of respect for him when he dissed a 15 year tour member that just beat him.. Its not like Lawrence is some rookie, so what if he carried a couple of lucky shots. Thats just part of the game and WRW should know that with 40 titles..
Once again, congrats to Rick Lawrence on your 2nd PBA title!!
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If they only made a ball that would carry that da_n 7 pin (and I am right handed!!)
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Post by: allengrace62 on November 22, 2004, 06:24:45 AM
In a rerun it showed WRW shaking his hand at the end of
the match. He did ignore him later but he did shake
hands. My biggest surprise was how bad Angelo bowled. He
had a strike on the left lane and then tried a different
line two frames in row that resulted in splits. Perhaps
he felt the stike he got when he swung the ball out to
about the three board was lucky and that is why he changed
lines.
Post by: allengrace62 on November 22, 2004, 06:24:59 AM
In a rerun it showed WRW shaking his hand at the end of
the match. He did ignore him later but he did shake
hands. My biggest surprise was how bad Angelo bowled. He
had a strike on the left lane and then tried a different
line two frames in row that resulted in splits. Perhaps
he felt the stike he got when he swung the ball out to
about the three board was lucky and that is why he changed
lines.
Post by: jkiser01 on November 22, 2004, 06:37:10 AM
I watched it twice and didn't see that.. If he did shake his hand earlier, I stand corrected, but he still dissed him at the end.
I know I saw that and it was horrible sportsmanship..
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If they only made a ball that would carry that da_n 7 pin (and I am right handed!!)
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Post by: scotts33 on November 22, 2004, 08:13:55 AM
I feel most of them are down right killer mentality and you better have it or forget it. I believe off the lanes most of them say 95% are the best of friends. In the heat of the moment so what if they don't give the other player the winner a handshake. They're gathering their stuff between TV commercials and getting off the lanes so the next guy can come on.
IMO....they are ticked at themselves for not executing the shots not ticked off at the other guy. I'll bet after the show was done WRW Jr. shook his hand and said job well done. I'd bet on that. Rick Lawrence is not some rookie.
These guys are a bigger family than most of you might think.
Scott
Post by: SUKIE on November 22, 2004, 08:22:24 AM
Post by: SUKIE on November 22, 2004, 08:22:33 AM
Post by: Ramtart on November 22, 2004, 08:50:47 AM
By the looks of the camera work after the match, it did look like Walter "Dissed," Rick after it looked like trying to shake his hand. I was pretty dissapointed with that. Maybe they shook hands later on in the day...
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Post by: Iketown300 on November 22, 2004, 10:18:33 AM
I do NOT agree with this at all. Walter Ray's had 1 lucky shot in the game against lawerence and that was when the 6 barely tapped out the 10 pin but it still was a pocket shot. As up to now every pba telecast of this year on espn, I haven't seen a lucky strike like the 2 rick lawerence had. I am not dissing rick because he did throw a lot of great shots especially in the last game against angelo. The part I MAJORLY DISAGREE with in IceEmQuick's reply is the part that lawerence went through the same field as everyone else. If you watch the show again, his opponents in matchplay only averaged 204 against him. That is extremely low for the matchplay portion of the tournament. So I don't see how you can say he went through the same field as walter ray or the others when walter averaged 240 to get there. But like they always say better to be lucky than good.
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Post by: jkiser01 on November 22, 2004, 10:39:29 AM
what they average doesn't mean squat when it comes to the TV show. Lawrence still had to go thru match play and beat 4 opponent's in the best of 7 games to make the show, which he did..
Like I said before, big deal that Lawrence got 2 breaks, he still beat WRW and then destroyed that big baby Angelo..
Its not like he is a rookie.. He has been out there putting in his time and dues for 15 years, so why can't people just be happy for the guy..
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jkiser01
Post by: Iketown300 on November 22, 2004, 10:50:37 AM
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Post by: Brickguy221 on November 22, 2004, 10:50:52 AM
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To the untrained eye, it looks like he has no backswing and gets about 3 or 4 revs (which you can count watching the ball going down the lane), all of which are provided by a robo-brace.
Soooo, what's wrong with that? I too have almost no back swing and low revs and wear a Moro Extended Pro-Release.
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Post by: Brickguy221 on November 22, 2004, 10:56:56 AM
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Those two nose jobs which resulted in strikes really made me want to puke, and completely ruined the show. For WRW to lose in that fashion, after all the hype about history in the making, was very depressing.
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WRW lost because he was using the wrong ball and not because of two of Lawrence's strikes. The backend on WRW's ball was almost nil. I'm really surprised that a man of his caliber with his experience and knowledge, that he stayed with a ball that had no backend.
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Post by: Brickguy221 on November 22, 2004, 11:00:08 AM
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Man, I just got home from traveling league and read this post and can't believe all the comments about Lawrence getting all the breaks and how he throws the ball like crap, etc.. Big deal if he got a couple of breaks, I guess Walter Ray has never gotten a break before has he?? Come on..
jkiser, that's exactly the way I see it too. You spoke for both of us here.
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Post by: jkiser01 on November 22, 2004, 11:01:47 AM
Bowling is a game of skill and some luck. Lawrence got 2 lucky strikes and once again I say so what.. I almost guarantee WRW got some breaks to even make it to the show. Its not like WRW's game is not full of some luck, everyone gets breaks, period..
Lawrence thru the ball very well (except those 2 lucky shots that you are talking abut) and deserved to win..
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If they only made a ball that would carry that da_n 7 pin (and I am right handed!!)
jkiser01
Post by: seadrive on November 22, 2004, 11:02:31 AM
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Soooo, what's wrong with that? I too have almost no back swing and low revs and wear a Robbys Extended Pro-Release.
Hey Brick, when you tell me you're taking your no-rev, robo-assisted game out on tour, I'll let ya know what's wrong with that.
Wow, you guys are so nice! If I slammed the pocket 9 out of 10 frames, and got beat by some guy with a dial-a-hook, who tripped not one, but two three-pin split leaves (what, the trip 2-7-10 and the trip 6-7-10???), I'd be jumping up and down like a maniac! You guys would go buy him a beer and pat him on the back!
Must be a New York thing, we're just not that nice.
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Cogito ergo bowl
Post by: Brickguy221 on November 22, 2004, 11:10:41 AM
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You are so right!! I kind of lost the taste for bowling now after what WRW did to Rick on national TV. I
Robert, You are so right, here. I see it the same way. In fact I've personally experienced it first hand in the past towards amueters when WRW bowled in the Pro-Am where I live. In fact I was his partner in one of them. Ozio and Baker were great. WRW was a.........well you get the point.
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Post by: Iketown300 on November 22, 2004, 11:11:41 AM
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Post by: Brickguy221 on November 22, 2004, 11:28:42 AM
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I just don't understand how you can say big whoop on that he got 2 breaks.
Ike, do you honestly think WRW has never had any lucky breaks to win a match?... Come on, all people get breaks in bowling, not just Rick Lawrence. I think the problem with yesterdays match and today's WRW whiners is that there was an opportunity there for history to be made and it didn't happen, but could have happened if WRW would have changed balls when it was plain as day that his ball was going almost straight, hardly hooking, and had no backend.
Relax everyone, this isn't the end of the world or WRW's chances to still accomplish 41 wins followed by more. WRW will have many more chances if he will use better judgement in the future to change balls when the one he is using isn't working.
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Post by: Ragnar on November 22, 2004, 11:50:11 AM
1. Angelo is coached by Baker - no foul, no penalty.
2. WRW fouls - no call, no penalty.
3. Lawrence shot better than his opponents all week. Check the rules guys, it doesn't say you have to shoot better than the field, it doesn't say it has to be pretty, it does say you have to beat your opponent. Lawrence did that. Me, if I could get the ball to roll the way he does I'd be thrilled. You say he had no revs? Hmm, "skid, roll, hook." Isn't that what his ball did? You take a bit of loft, some speed and the pattern and you get early skid (i.e.,no revs early), ball reads dry and picks up enough roll (revs) to carry when flush (or even when not sometimes). Ball hooks into pocket and carries. And when he hit the hole did it appear to you that it hit with authority? Seemed that way to me.
4. WRW has a crappy ball reaction, gets one break on a soft 10 that gets tapped out, but won't change balls. I'd surmise that in his head "it was all the fault of the lousy approach."
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Post by: Brickguy221 on November 22, 2004, 11:59:23 AM
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Hey Brick, when you tell me you're taking your no-rev, robo-assisted game out on tour, I'll let ya know what's wrong with that.
Seadrive, why wait until I get on the tour, (which will never happen..lol) come to where I bowl and tell me what's wrong now.
Remember, style counts nothing. It's how many pins a person knocks down is what counts.
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Post by: Iketown300 on November 22, 2004, 12:02:07 PM
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Post by: Brickguy221 on November 22, 2004, 12:09:05 PM
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Post by: jkiser01 on November 22, 2004, 12:09:14 PM
2. WRW fouls - no call, no penalty.
Did you see that part of the show?? Just curious.. WRW did foul and he wasn't even prefessional enough to say he did..
I understand what you are saying but breaks are part of EVERY players games regardless if your a PBA member or not..
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If they only made a ball that would carry that da_n 7 pin (and I am right handed!!)
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Post by: DanH78 on November 22, 2004, 12:09:40 PM
EVeryone benefits from a break now and then, just like everyone suffers from breaks not gotten now and then, it just so happened that Rick got 2 pretty big ones against WRW while on TV. He still threw a ton of shots that had nothing to do with luck, but instead were the direct result of using the correct ball, with the correct release, over the correct target with, with the proper speed.
Angelo and WRW both had plenty of chances to do what Lawrence did, and for whatever reason, they didn't. Why can't everyone just say good job Rick for outbowling his opponents instead of cr*pping all over his acomplishments?
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Post by: Brickguy221 on November 22, 2004, 12:12:20 PM
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I never said in any post that walter never got a break and if you actually check out another post that i did, i actually wrote about the same lucky break that walter go on the weak 10. But I don't think i can ever recall walter ray going through the nose twice to get strike ON TELEVISION. Can't say for matchplay or qualifying rounds of previous years. Like I said I can only speak for what i saw on television.
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Post by: jkiser01 on November 22, 2004, 12:21:58 PM
I could not have said it better.. I just don't see what the big deal is that he carried two lucky shots. He bowled well enough all week to make the show and bowled well enough on the show to win the title, so be happy for the guy instead.
WRW will get probably #41 before Lawrence gets #3, so just say congrats to the guy and move on..
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If they only made a ball that would carry that da_n 7 pin (and I am right handed!!)
jkiser01
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Post by: Iketown300 on November 22, 2004, 12:24:02 PM
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Post by: jkiser01 on November 22, 2004, 12:33:26 PM
Come on man, you bowl enough to know the foul lights don't always go off when you foul. Its called the "honor" system..
Also, comparing the baseball player taking ball 4 to this sutuation is not just. Its totally different..
Also, making quality shots is great, but nine times out of 10, thats not what wins the money!! Its the final score that counts in ALL sports and you know that..
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If they only made a ball that would carry that da_n 7 pin (and I am right handed!!)
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Post by: Iketown300 on November 22, 2004, 12:37:01 PM
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Post by: scotts33 on November 22, 2004, 12:47:28 PM
The other one that crossed over....oh well that's bowling boys.
Scott
Post by: a_ak57 on November 22, 2004, 01:32:55 PM
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That guy Rick Lawrence got some crazy breaks! That one shot was even high for a brooklyn, and on another shot he really should have left the 6-7-10.
Too bad for walter, he has to wait for another day.
GO angelo!
What is so offensive? Would you agree that he got some crazy breaks? Yes you would or else you have never seen a flush strike. Did i say he sucked and WRW was God? No. Please explain to me what i said where there is such a need to have over 60 posts about it.
BTW, look at my second post. I even said that he took advantage of those breaks, and then ran away to win it. never said he sucked or that he is horrible and shouldn't be bowling.
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Post by: jkiser01 on November 22, 2004, 01:37:05 PM
It wasn't what you said, its just all the talk after your original post about him getting the breaks, blah, blah, blah..
I agree, he did get the breaks but big deal, thats the way bowling anbd life is sometimes..
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If they only made a ball that would carry that da_n 7 pin (and I am right handed!!)
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Post by: Brickguy221 on November 22, 2004, 01:46:45 PM
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See I don't see it as 10 pins down is 10 pins down. I like quality shots whether they carry or not
Ike, for what ever reason, either you don't get it or you don't want to get it. I repeat once again, style means nothing. The bottom line is how many pins went down. If style counted, people like Brian Voss, David Ozio, Patrick Allen, Parkert Bohn and many others would be in the finals all of the time. Unfortunately, if style counted, WRW would never be in the finals.
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Post by: Ragnar on November 22, 2004, 01:52:29 PM
Four guys put themselves into position to win. One guy won. I'd guess he won by keeping the ball in play for the week, taking advantage of both his opponents problems and his gifts, and concerning himself with what he could control.
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Post by: Mike Austin on November 23, 2004, 12:15:33 AM
Rick's game will never be considered pretty, but he repeats shots like a mother! His mental game is terrific. He is solid at the line, and at release point. I've beat him some, but lost to him more. (Don't know about head to head matches) He's a super nice guy, hard worker, and I guess the best compliment would be that he's a good Christian. I'm not getting off on any religious tangent, I'm not a good Christian in my opinion, but I know one when I see one.
If WRW had gotten those same breaks, we wouldn't even be talking about this. If Angelo or Couch had gotten and taken advantage of similar breaks, we wouldn't be talking about this. Some of you are tearing Rick down, like HE TRIED TO carry those hits. With WRW having been on TV more than anyone else, 145 times???, I guarantee he has had two similar breaks, it just has to have happened. WRW would have taken them in a heart beat, and probably have been thankful (just like Rick).
In 1989 I won a PBA Regional in Albuquerque NM, on ABC TV affiliate. For the title I bowled Todd Thompson, then of Vegas I think. He was touring at that time. Threw the ball awesome, stuck every shot, or should I say posted. Perfect knee bend, follow through, etc, think he made a couple shows around that time. Dick Ritger did the color for the show, he even commented about how great Todd threw the ball. Commented how I fell off many of my shots, losing leverage. (The approaches were very slick there, no humidity, being from Houston, I had a hard time with those approaches.) I tripped the four once, and slow messengered the ten pin once. I got the breaks that day. Mr. Ritger even said, that's how it goes, sometimes you get the breaks and sometimes you don't. My title was not lessened at all, Todd didn't whine, shook my hand and told me to come out on tour!
In about '98 I came in second in a regional in El Paso, TX. I shot around 800 my last three games of match play to get to second place, to bowl Chris Barnes for the title. The title match was on the same pair that I just finished bowling a 270 game. I struck all 4 of my practice shots. I WAS ON FIRE!!! I KNEW I WAS GONNA WIN!!! Started off with about 4 nine counts in a row, missing a 10 pin, Chris started the front 6-7. He wins 24?-23?. It wasn't as close as the score. All of my shots were flush, but I didn't carry, I thought they were bad breaks. But that doesn't lessent Chris' first PBA title. I'm proud to say that I jump started his career! LOL! If I had beaten him, he might have went home forever!! LOL!!!
That's the way it goes sometimes. WRW will get his titles, he will win the most ever, money and titles. He is a great bowler. He's pretty laid back, he doesn't have any ill will towards Rick, if he does, then he needs to grow up too, along with some others around here.
Sorry so long....
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Post by: DP3 on November 23, 2004, 11:50:49 AM
To all the people whining and complaining about the breaks Rick Lawrence got, sit back and think about where your game would be and what your average would be if you didn't get your 8-10 breaks a night(going through the nose, brooklyn carries, light/high trips, missing your mark by ten boards to have the ball ricochet off the gutter) in your adult bumper bowling leagues. I doubt anyone in this thread could probaly repeat a shot or average 230 on any PBA condition as this man has done so give it a rest and let the pro be a pro.
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Post by: Track900 on November 23, 2004, 12:15:37 PM
Post by: jkiser01 on November 23, 2004, 01:06:39 PM
Great post!! Nice to hear from someone that saw the immortal WRW get a few breaks in match play. I knew that he did, everyone does. That was my point in all of this.. Once again, congrats to Rick Lawrence!!
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If they only made a ball that would carry that da_n 7 pin (and I am right handed!!)
jkiser01
Post by: a_ak57 on November 23, 2004, 01:15:26 PM
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Post by: Iketown300 on November 23, 2004, 01:22:05 PM
And for DP3's comment, you say no one can average 230 on a pba pattern but first of all neither did rick. I believe is average was 216.?? for the week and 219 by the end of the finals.
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Post by: Iketown300 on November 23, 2004, 01:23:25 PM
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Post by: jkiser01 on November 23, 2004, 01:37:10 PM
here are comments from track900's post:
please defend me here I saw WRW go brook against Scroggins 3 times, in the 4 game match I also watched him carry the house against Jaros in the round of 8 when poor Jaros kept leaving solid 8,9,10's
Thats what my comment was about.. Its not that big of a deal when these guys get breaks, all of them do.. Rick just got 2 on TV..
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jkiser01
Post by: Iketown300 on November 23, 2004, 02:06:37 PM
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Ike Brownfield
Post by: jkiser01 on November 23, 2004, 02:37:34 PM
no big deal, just wanted you to see what he had said..
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If they only made a ball that would carry that da_n 7 pin (and I am right handed!!)
jkiser01