Post by: rodolfo74 on March 13, 2010, 10:49:40 AM
Hello to you all:
I was looking at my old PBA vhs tapes this weekend and spend few hours remembering everything from Weber(PDW) Monacelli, Aulby, Roth, WRW Jr, Holman, Webb, and those guys….any ways, in more than one of those videos Mr. Bo Burton and even Earl Anthony agree on something, they both said that the best style of all time.. the best hand-eye coordination belonged to Marshall Holman do you guys agree on this..????
Personally I think that for right hander style it would be between Holman and PDW and for left hander…definitely Parker Bhon III, but that’s just my opinion.
Post by: scotts33 on March 13, 2010, 07:11:37 PM
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Post by: John D Davis on March 14, 2010, 03:55:43 AM
As far as having no grip pressure and using gravity 100%, definitly Ozio! I would be anything he could bowl 30-40 games in his prime and still be going no problem because of his effortless swing. Plain Awsome...............
Post by: kidlost2000 on March 14, 2010, 05:25:00 AM
I''m right handed and I would say hands down on either side it is Parker Bohn III in terms of form. Very smooth, great revs, not much else you can say.
Marshall Holman form not so great to watch, especially starting in his approach.
Holman
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHGnYQPqcJs
Bohn III
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJF_u-QwPmM
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Post by: shipper50 on March 14, 2010, 07:08:27 AM
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Post by: clint191 on March 14, 2010, 07:23:26 AM
of all time??? Let the Scroggins bashing begin!!!
Nah, just kidding.
I'll give my votes for best style to PDW and PB3, those
guys are just super smooth and a pleasure to watch!!!
Post by: Mayhem on March 14, 2010, 08:54:44 AM
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Post by: Gazoo on March 14, 2010, 10:45:42 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5whuQ_3EnKI
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Post by: RaginCajun on March 14, 2010, 11:35:42 AM
be like when I started bowling. I still to
this day cannot be as solid at the line as him.
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Post by: T_Bone on March 14, 2010, 11:47:29 AM
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Who is Marshall Holmes?
John's brother. He had a HUGE thumb hole.
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Post by: BowlingWolf on March 14, 2010, 04:13:12 PM
From the left-side: Steve Cook
Marshall Holman held the ball low, muscled the ball forward, ran to the line, and slid for at least 3 to 4 feet while releasing the ball all at the same time--hardly a great style, just an awesome bowler.
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Post by: jlm797 on March 14, 2010, 04:51:51 PM
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Post by: kidlost2000 on March 14, 2010, 04:56:53 PM
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Post by: myty299 on March 14, 2010, 05:07:19 PM
Righty: Jeff Dreyfus
these guys are amazing! sadly you cant find any videos of jeff
but i have a tape of him for his tv appearances
Post by: JMORRIS on March 14, 2010, 05:31:35 PM
How Ozio didn''t win 20+ titles on tour with that game is a mystery to me.
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Post by: BowlingWolf on March 14, 2010, 06:04:48 PM
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Gotta be Scott Devers, right?
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And Scott's counterpart on the right is Ron Williams.
Still, both successful.
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Post by: jbruno6 on March 14, 2010, 07:44:00 PM
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Post by: resbuzz on March 14, 2010, 08:02:57 PM
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Post by: shelley on March 14, 2010, 08:09:44 PM
As for Earl, I don't think his awesomeness was in the release but in the fact that he did it day in, day out, ball to ball, and never backed down. I've watched videos of him and he completely underwhelms me as far as his physical game and release. No one would teach that bent elbow armswing to someone who wasn't already at the elite level doing it.
SH
Post by: scotts33 on March 14, 2010, 08:14:18 PM
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As for Earl, I don't think his awesomeness was in the release but in the fact that he did it day in, day out, ball to ball, and never backed down. I've watched videos of him and he completely underwhelms me as far as his physical game and release. No one would teach that bent elbow armswing to someone who wasn't already at the elite level doing it.
I'd agree to a point shelley but Don Carter before Mr. Anthony also had the shovel bent arm swing.
Earl was dang accurate and on the lane conditions of the day and being a wrongsider gave him an edge.
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Post by: Crankenstein300 on March 14, 2010, 10:14:04 PM
As far as the question at hand, as far as textbook styles, I echo the choice of Ozio and Voss. In a way I think reactives helped Ozio because he had such an effortless release to begin with and he could just pure them down the lane and then have the reactive hit at the pocket. I must say the stories I have heard about Ozio playing straight up 1 board with a Blue Dot are crazy.
With Pete Weber, I agree he had a release you just couldn't teach. It was certainly special but he had a lot more hit at the bottom with urethane than he does now. I actually like his reactive release better because it's so effortless at the bottom with plenty of roll still. But I can tell with the back and forth with thicker oils combated with stronger coverstocks that his roll and tilt no matter how good just conflicts. You could see him just light up at the plastic ball tourney last season since he could actually hit the ball at the bottom again. Shows how much of of a talent he still is that he can still be a top tier bowler.
As for lefties, I still am amazed at how well Aulby could get a ball down the lane with lower ball speed and decent turn. You have to have a special release to get that and his was just as good with plastic, urethane, and reactives.
Post by: Dave_in_Rio_Rancho on March 16, 2010, 10:55:32 AM
Post by: BowlingWolf on March 16, 2010, 11:53:40 AM
Wayne Webb should also be added to the list of great stylists, whether he was holding the ball down by his side and balanced only by his bowling arm, or whether he was holding the ball up conventionally with the non-bowling hand supporting some of the ball's weight.
Other fine stylists that come to mind:
Mike Durbin, Randy Pederson, Doug Kent, Robert Smith, Dave D'Entremont, Gary Skidmore, Mark Baker, Tony Westlake (loved his game), Steve Wunderlich, Pete McCordic, Tony Reyes, and Mike Edwards.
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Post by: stopncrank on March 16, 2010, 12:11:08 PM
Justin Hromek was another one from the early 90's with a killer physical game. Whatever happend to him??
As for today, gotta go with Chris Barnes, effortless revs, smooth as silk and you rarely see him fall off a shot.
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Post by: PWOICantHearU on March 16, 2010, 01:25:28 PM
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Post by: joeschmoe on March 16, 2010, 02:02:22 PM
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Post by: Dave_in_Rio_Rancho on March 16, 2010, 02:29:06 PM
I did mention Brian Voss, and Carmen Salvino but could have gone with Ozio, Burton, and many others you all brought up, who the moment you started imitating their styles your scores went up.
I didn't go with any of the power bowlers because their style hasn't seemed to "age" well.
And to me, that is the hallmark of a enduring style, it works and keeps on working.
Post by: x1a4 on March 16, 2010, 02:58:00 PM
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Post by: BowlingWolf on March 17, 2010, 05:23:55 PM
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Steve Cook, did things to plastic and urethane balls that was inhuman. Personnally, I would take D'Entremont's game, big man, great swing.
Love those 2 styles, and for some reasoned you've reminded me of another contemporary of these 2, although not quite as successful: Jim Pencak--the man could really roll it sweet.
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Post by: ccrider on March 17, 2010, 06:33:27 PM
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Post by: ralphiejantz on March 17, 2010, 08:25:35 PM
Surprised no body ever mentioned Rudy "Revs" Kasimakis
he has an unreal bowling style and amazing release
by far one the most amazing power players out there
he's one of the greatest action bowlers of all time
he made a few TV finals on the PBA tour as well
Post by: bowlingnut07 on March 17, 2010, 08:39:44 PM
gutter ball at the tums classic
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