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General Category => PBA => Topic started by: northface28 on April 01, 2019, 10:05:26 PM
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Am I reading this right? 1st place for the Masters is only $30,000? Second is $25,000? Please tell me I’m reading this incorrectly.
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Alas, bruh, you're not.
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And there were guys crying all week because they want smaller fields. There was talk of "Average requirements" as high as 225+ from amatuers in order to bowl the event.
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Too funny...
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450 entries (x) $500 - $225,000
Added money - $90,000
Total Prize Fund $315,000
I'm assuming Gold Coast gave away the lineage for the week, or maybe that's part of the added money. But regardless how is it that some sponsor doesn't add even more money to a "major" event. Or how does USBC not add extra money, again assuming none of the 90k extra came from them.
I'd be interested to know how the TV ratings were compared to previous shows. I'm up super early in the morning and didn't watch because of the 9pm est start time unfortunately.
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Pretty sad 30 years later the total pot is smaller. That said Arizona bowlers did fairly well so shout out to the locals. Explains why one my regular drillers was out last week. He was busy cashing in what little there is.
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No major should pay less than 50k for first. If you can win one of the handful of majors against the best in the sport, you should be able to sustain a decent living for a year off that amount in my opinion. But honestly, it should be more like:
1st - 100k
2nd - 80k
3rd - 60k
4th - 40k
5th - 25k
6th-10th - 10k
so on and so forth.
52nd at the PGA Players Championship also pays 30k :D lol
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And there were guys crying all week because they want smaller fields. There was talk of "Average requirements" as high as 225+ from amatuers in order to bowl the event.
God, even at the top level bowlers are such pussies. Some of these guys would cry if they were the only person at a tournament and the payout was 1 out of 1.
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As long as PBA members sit by and let someone else control their sport, they deserve how little they get paid.
When they allowed the Microsoft and Nike idiots to take over their sport, they sealed their fate.
You know what is funny? I couldn't remember the PBA commissioners name, so I googled "PBA commissioner". Try it and see the result you get. I laughed out loud, yep, the Professional Bowlers Association has a real imagine problem when even google doesn't recognize it.
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Amen milo.
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As long as PBA members sit by and let someone else control their sport, they deserve how little they get paid.
When they allowed the Microsoft and Nike idiots to take over their sport, they sealed their fate.
You know what is funny? I couldn't remember the PBA commissioners name, so I googled "PBA commissioner". Try it and see the result you get. I laughed out loud, yep, the Professional Bowlers Association has a real imagine problem when even google doesn't recognize it.
I tried searching for PBA commissioner and you're right, nothing.
Just curious because I had no idea, what impact did Microsoft and Nike have on bowling??? I didn't even know they were ever involved.
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As long as PBA members sit by and let someone else control their sport, they deserve how little they get paid.
When they allowed the Microsoft and Nike idiots to take over their sport, they sealed their fate.
You know what is funny? I couldn't remember the PBA commissioners name, so I googled "PBA commissioner". Try it and see the result you get. I laughed out loud, yep, the Professional Bowlers Association has a real imagine problem when even google doesn't recognize it.
I tried searching for PBA commissioner and you're right, nothing.
Just curious because I had no idea, what impact did Microsoft and Nike have on bowling??? I didn't even know they were ever involved.
Nothing?? I got Phillipine Basketball Association - Willie Marcial. Who knew there was such a thing?
Some ex Microsoft and Nike executives "bought" the PBA(Bowling, not Basketball) in the early 90's I think. And then they installed that Ass Clown Tom Clark to run it. He is the bald headed goober with the shit eating grin on his face you see on all the telecasts .
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Maybe thats part of the problem. More than one group might use PBA as their abbreviation. Try typing it oin PBA Bowling Commisioner, then see what pops right up
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Does the PBA have a commissioner other than for bowling?
But seriously, don't you think an ex Microsoft executive would know how to get a google search to return Bowling to the top of the results when a user searches for PBA anything? Or maybe it's just another example of not giving a shit by the owners of the PBA.
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Yes, the latter part milo.
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I think they are getting paid what they deserve, based on the corporate sponsorships they attract. The sad thing was tuning in to see a bunch guys bowl who aren't very good and I have no interest in watching them struggle. It was like turning on Masters at Augusta and seeing local pros playing for green jacket. I know Buttruff is the up and coming superstar, I just don't think he is fun to watch.
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PBA financial fate was sealed in the 60s and 70s. Bowling consistently drew higher tv ratings than golf, and even the NBA. Yet they were unable to garner big money corporate sponsors commensurate with the tv ratings. A big reason was that high level corporate executives spent their leisure time at country clubs, not bowling the Thursday night commercial league. Indeed the middle aged execs had an image of smoke filled pool rooms with bowling lanes upstairs, and didnt consider the bowling crowd as a worthwhile demogrsphic to reach.
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I think they are getting paid what they deserve, based on the corporate sponsorships they attract. The sad thing was tuning in to see a bunch guys bowl who aren't very good and I have no interest in watching them struggle. It was like turning on Masters at Augusta and seeing local pros playing for green jacket. I know Buttruff is the up and coming superstar, I just don't think he is fun to watch.
bowling needs Kyle Troup to get big time, then bowling also needs a new PDW
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Tom Clark got the commissioners job because he wrote nice articles about bowling for the online edition of USA Today. He has ZERO business leadership experience and it shows.
Clowns like Kyle Troup are great for a day, but long term, bowling needs men of class and talent to win over anyone in the corporate world. The PGA model is the model the PBA should be striving for. Clean cut, nice clothes (not bowling ball billboard shirts), and knows how to talk to a corporate leader.
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It's been said plenty of times on here, bowling needs its own Tiger Woods. I like watching Kyle Troup and he is a great TV personality, but not quite Tiger Woods material. Maybe if Mookie Betts hung up his bat and glove and put all his talent and effort into bowling??? Somebody like that would fit the bill.
I watched the entire Masters telecast and caught myself making fun of what I was watching and started to feel a little guilty because these guys are awesome bowlers and in a position I'll never find myself in. Then Rob Stone dropped the joke about Mitch Hupe being the lead singer of Loverboy in his other gig. I laughed my ass off and didn't feel guilty anymore.
The talent and skill and matches were great to watch, but the rest of that telecast was comedy gold. The two semi attractive chicks in the background loving their time on TV was funny. Hot chicks on a PBA telecast is something you never see. Then in match 3 the two typical Vegas douchebags in their tacky sportjackets, gold chains, and Elvis sunglasses making a move on them and chasing them away was hilarious!!!
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It's been said plenty of times on here, bowling needs its own Tiger Woods. I like watching Kyle Troup and he is a great TV personality, but not quite Tiger Woods material. Maybe if Mookie Betts hung up his bat and glove and put all his talent and effort into bowling??? Somebody like that would fit the bill.
I watched the entire Masters telecast and caught myself making fun of what I was watching and started to feel a little guilty because these guys are awesome bowlers and in a position I'll never find myself in. Then Rob Stone dropped the joke about Mitch Hupe being the lead singer of Loverboy in his other gig. I laughed my ass off and didn't feel guilty anymore.
The talent and skill and matches were great to watch, but the rest of that telecast was comedy gold. The two semi attractive chicks in the background loving their time on TV was funny. Hot chicks on a PBA telecast is something you never see. Then in match 3 the two typical Vegas douchebags in their tacky sportjackets, gold chains, and Elvis sunglasses making a move on them and chasing them away was hilarious!!!
finding a pro version of tiger is damn near impossible. its why the PGA hasn't found anyone since he left. Rory is super dominant, but he doesn't come close in comparison to Tiger in attendance drawing ability.
Tiger had an amazing combination of charisma and talent. Like, to the point where he was cocky.
the PBA has plenty of great bowlers, but most of the PBA bowlers are boring in personality.
the PBA can't hope for its version of tiger, the PBA needs another PDW. somebody who can bring some attitude to the game. And it just needs some more personalities in general. theres not enough action in bowling to get past the boring people.
and mookie betts hanging up his glove.....? Mookie Betts won his arbitration in January and will play this season for $20 Million after making $10.5 million last year. And hes still in arbitration, and just to track baseball contracts. Mike Trout just signed a 12 year $426.5M contract, manny machado signed a 10 year $300M, and bryce harper signed a 13 year $330M contract... Mookie will get something similar. I don't see him hanging up his Nike's for some Dexters any time soon
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Am I the only one who finds Kyle Troop's act to be on the douchebag side? ???
Perhaps you should also stay off my lawn... ;D
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Bowling needs another Ambassador like Dick Weber!
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I was never a fan of bowlers whose antics, or overbearing personalities, become just as important, (or more important) than their physical talent. I get it ,but I just don't agree with it and never did. That goes for the cartoonish-like jerseys they wear, which makes them look like a cheesy neon billboard. No wonder bowling continues to get a bad rap when the powers that be think that televised events should look, act, and sound as if they are being staged in a studio wrestling arena.
Count me in as supporting the codes and standards in use on the PGA. Let's just try going back to some of the old PBA standards. Gimmicks are good for only so long. There is more than enough boorish behavior taking place all around us these days as it is. Dumbing down our great sport does a terrible disservice to the talent it takes to play the game. The PGA gets it, but certain elements of the bowling industry do not.
Finally, while on the subject of "dumbing down" televised bowling, let's say we get rid of that ridiculous "blue oil" . I can't count how many house bowlers have told me
that the PBA events are being played on walled conditions, when those of us who
have played on those conditions know better.
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The ball companies run the show. Nothing will get done that puts them second to the actual bowlers.
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The ball companies run the show. Nothing will get done that puts them second to the actual bowlers.
Too an extent, I get this. I remember watching EJ Tackett throw whatever the newest Motiv ball regardless of shot.
However on the flip side, I can’t imagine ball companies extremely happy to see their pro firing their urethane balls up the ditch when they got new high priced balls recently released.
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Thought about that as well willis9. I mean the normal league player isn’t rushing out to his local pro shop to drill one or two purple hammers.
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Thought about that as well willis9. I mean the normal league player isn’t rushing out to his local pro shop to drill one or two purple hammers.
Tournament bowlers should. Its the best urethane I have thrown of the the dozen or so I have owned. If only going to own one urethane that is the one to buy.
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Thought about that as well willis9. I mean the normal league player isn’t rushing out to his local pro shop to drill one or two purple hammers.
They seem to be in this area. Every league night I see several of them being used as well as some of the Storm Urethane.
Not with great effect of course...
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The ball companies run the show. Nothing will get done that puts them second to the actual bowlers.
Too an extent, I get this. I remember watching EJ Tackett throw whatever the newest Motiv ball regardless of shot.
However on the flip side, I can’t imagine ball companies extremely happy to see their pro firing their urethane balls up the ditch when they got new high priced balls recently released.
On the other hand...Scout/R $68.95 vs. Purple Hammer $126.95. (bowlerx pricing). They probably aren't actually that upset about the Purple Hammer.
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On the one hand, bowling lost out financially in the 60s and 70s when corporate sponsorship moved toward golf. On the other hand, let's be more corporate like golf. Golf has always been the gentrified game. Bowling has always been a blue collar game. Why not embrace that? The biggest sponsors bowling had were the ones that catered to everyday Americans-beer companies, automotive product companies, shaving products, etc.
As for conduct..I guess David Ozio would get ripped for being emotional too huh? Marshal Holman too? I get it, some reactions feel more like a put on. These bowlers have a blue collar mentality. Let there be excitement. Let them have fun with it. Let them be accessible. The buzz from the playoffs is off the charts, and Fox is running with it. Viewership is up, despite not being in as many households as ESPN. Growing the sport won't happen as long as the model that worked in the 60s 70s and 80s, with fewer entertainment options. Bland and boring won't capture the attention of the casual bowler. Bland and boring has caught up with golf BTW, ratings are falling, golf has been taking major hits as well, despite the corporate backing.
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Thought about that as well willis9. I mean the normal league player isn’t rushing out to his local pro shop to drill one or two purple hammers.
Actually the Purple Hammer is a top 3 seller for Hammer and EBI. Not uncommon to see 20+ at most scratch tournament's..
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Thought about that as well willis9. I mean the normal league player isn’t rushing out to his local pro shop to drill one or two purple hammers.
Actually the Purple Hammer is a top 3 seller for Hammer and EBI. Not uncommon to see 20+ at most scratch tournament's..
If someone is only going to own only one urethane ball Purple Hammer is one to own imo. Love mine.
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They cant make them fast enough - BW pink is going nutso and the orders keep rolling in for more Purple urethane as well